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Post by dd on Apr 21, 2020 13:22:45 GMT -5
That's a riot. I really love it when really smart people do really dumb things. It gives me delusions of competence.
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Post by p23w on Apr 22, 2020 17:32:07 GMT -5
Where I live the farmers are working (farm equipment all over the roads) like crazy. Had a interesting conversation with a Pioneer seed person (scientist?) who told me that the Wuhan virus disrupts the function of hemoglobin molecules by altering the valence of the Fe (iron) molecule, thereby rendering it unable to transfer O2 throughout the body. Seems like a tough nut to crack regarding a fix. (vaccine). Also seems like this virus was engineered and not the product of a wet market. I miss baseball. I think (hope) Manfred will have a very short season followed by an extended playoff. Covid -19 was not made in a lab. www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what-scientists-think-of-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-lab-rumour/ampScience alert article is informative but no proof positive. The wet market origin for the virus seems the most likely. Not sure how "bat soup" explodes so rapidly. The Wuhan Institute of Virology was studying the virus, and the WIV has a poor track record with respect to procedures. So the likelihood remains that the virus could have escaped the lab. I am more interested in how it goes about it's business in a human host. It would seem that some kind of regulation of the (to me) insane wet markets in China is long overdue. PS A short season is infinitely better than no season. Social distancing is beginning to get annoying. Heck, I'm reading books I never thought I'd read.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 22, 2020 17:45:23 GMT -5
Science alert article is informative but no proof positive. The wet market origin for the virus seems the most likely. Not sure how "bat soup" explodes so rapidly. The Wuhan Institute of Virology was studying the virus, and the WIV has a poor track record with respect to procedures. So the likelihood remains that the virus could have escaped the lab. I am more interested in how it goes about it's business in a human host. It would seem that some kind of regulation of the (to me) insane wet markets in China is long overdue. Escaping a lab where it might have been identified, whatever it's source or origin, is at odds with "made" in a lab or as a bio-weapon construct as some have said or intimated. I wonder if the GCL will play this summer. Usually there are fewer than 100 that attend even at Ed Smith stadium in Sarasota. Social distancing wouldn't be a problem. Hope springs eternal.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 22, 2020 19:03:54 GMT -5
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Post by p23w on Apr 25, 2020 8:04:39 GMT -5
Testing positive...again is not new. Malaria often "hides in the host" only to exhibit it's deliberating effects at a later date. Difference is the host is not a proliferating contagion. The wuhan virus host, may remain a contagion to others. Even with a successful vaccine the infected host "may" be contagious to those that have not been vaccinated. In the case of a baseball team the entire organization needs to be vaccinated (and test negative) and practice social distancing from fans and the media before play can resume. Accurate testing, and the possibility of an evolving virus makes a safe resumption of th 2020 baseball season less likely one would think. A short season could happen but it would be driven by tradition and economics (much like the pandemic of 1918 which saw a Red Sox world championship).
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 25, 2020 23:15:24 GMT -5
Not related but... If you haven't received your stimulus payment largely because you aren't required to file a federal return (most Social Security people), you can apply here: www.irs.gov/coronavirus/non-filers-enter-payment-info-hereThe main page shows who shouldn't be using the form. Tip: If you provide a bank routing number and account number they can direct deposit rather than mail.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 27, 2020 17:48:38 GMT -5
Big ol' rundown of what MLB is thinking regarding a short season. One snippet: Still pretty hard for me to imagine them overcoming the monstrous logistical issues involved. But I guess I'm feeling a little more optimistic than I was before, if for no other reason than because I am feeling increasingly antsy and want stuff to happen, which means lots of folks probably feel increasingly antsy, in which case they ought to play some baseball games.
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Post by jbuttah on Apr 27, 2020 20:56:22 GMT -5
Not related but... If you haven't received your stimulus payment largely because you aren't required to file a federal return (most Social Security people), you can apply here: www.irs.gov/coronavirus/non-filers-enter-payment-info-hereThe main page shows who shouldn't be using the form. Tip: If you provide a bank routing number and account number they can direct deposit rather than mail. I don't think that's correct. From the front page... "This new tool is designed for people eligible for the Economic Impact Payment who did not file a tax return for 2018 or 2019 and who don't receive Social Security retirement, disability (SSDI), survivor benefits, supplemental security income (SSI), or Railroad Retirement benefits."
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 27, 2020 22:44:46 GMT -5
Not related but... If you haven't received your stimulus payment largely because you aren't required to file a federal return (most Social Security people), you can apply here: www.irs.gov/coronavirus/non-filers-enter-payment-info-hereThe main page shows who shouldn't be using the form. Tip: If you provide a bank routing number and account number they can direct deposit rather than mail. I don't think that's correct. From the front page... "This new tool is designed for people eligible for the Economic Impact Payment who did not file a tax return for 2018 or 2019 and who don't receive Social Security retirement, disability (SSDI), survivor benefits, supplemental security income (SSI), or Railroad Retirement benefits." In most cases it will be automatic to the previous address or bank account, however, there are circumstances that change that, social security with dependents for example. " SSI and Veterans Affairs Benefit Recipients with Dependents: Register Now Register now if you receive SSI or VA benefits, have qualifying children under 17 and didn’t file a tax return in 2018 or 2019. Use the Non-Filers: Enter Payment Info Here tool below to register to have $500 per child added to your $1,200 Economic Impact Payment. ." There's also the situation where someone didn't make enough money to be required to file a return in 2018 or 2019. Those people are also eligible.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 28, 2020 8:28:13 GMT -5
FFS people, keep it to baseball. This isn't difficult.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 1, 2020 2:37:25 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 9, 2020 22:25:58 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on May 9, 2020 22:49:58 GMT -5
Still won't believe this will actually happen until someone does more than hand wave past the Rudy Gobert problem: what do they do when someone - a player, a coach, a clubhouse attendant - tests positive? How do they keep from having that shut everything down? I wonder if it's inevitable that they just land at, "Look, these guys are young and fit, and they'll be separated from the general population as much as possible. If they catch COVID, they catch it. At the end of the day a major league baseball team is at least as important as a grocery store or a meatpacking plant."
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Post by Oregon Norm on May 11, 2020 9:38:41 GMT -5
The problem with that approach, aside from the variability of the response so that even young people can die, is in how it will impact the lives of the players themselves. You'd have to be able to sell self-isolation from families and friends to them. I'd expect serious pushback in a strategy that focuses strictly on the game to the exclusion of any normal life. This is a real conundrum.
Does anyone know how baseball reacted during the Spanish flu?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 11, 2020 13:46:44 GMT -5
The problem with that approach, aside from the variability of the response so that even young people can die, is in how it will impact the lives of the players themselves. You'd have to be able to sell self-isolation from families and friends to them. I'd expect serious pushback in a strategy that focuses strictly on the game to the exclusion of any normal life. This is a real conundrum. Does anyone know how baseball reacted during the Spanish flu? Interesting question and in the category of things to do while you are locked down, I found this with a lot of good pics: baseballhall.org/discover/1918-flu-pandemic-didnt-spare-baseballAlso this which has a pic of players wearing masks (Not sure if it was major leagues or not): www.cbsnews.com/pictures/photos-from-the-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic/3/
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Post by soxcentral on May 11, 2020 13:47:11 GMT -5
The problem with that approach, aside from the variability of the response so that even young people can die, is in how it will impact the lives of the players themselves. You'd have to be able to sell self-isolation from families and friends to them. I'd expect serious pushback in a strategy that focuses strictly on the game to the exclusion of any normal life. This is a real conundrum. Does anyone know how baseball reacted during the Spanish flu?The outbreak got real bad in Boston during October of 1918. Luckily for the Sox they played the World Series in September, because the large-scale gathering would not have been allowed a month later according to an article I read recently. Gonna guess the peak of that infection was during the winter, so baseball was likely minimally affected.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 18, 2020 15:33:12 GMT -5
Furman University today announced they are cutting their baseball program. Furman is located in Greenville, SC and often played at Fluor Field. Bowling Green and Chicago State University have also announced they're cutting their baseball programs.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 21, 2020 9:31:55 GMT -5
Stick to baseball please. Going to continue deleting posts that have nothing to do with the game.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 24, 2020 3:57:11 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 25, 2020 20:54:30 GMT -5
It's SUCH a misleading headline and release though. "It's Official!!!...... that we're starting to explore a plan to come back."
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 25, 2020 21:33:29 GMT -5
It's SUCH a misleading headline and release though. "It's Official!!!...... that we're starting to explore a plan to come back." True but you can't filter out the headline in the link. I would think the case is somewhere in between their headline and your summary. I've been seeing news blurbs about the plan for at least a week so I'm guessing it's relatively far along at this point. I used that particular story because there is no political bias as part of that particular piece. Virtually every other story I've seen gets into political rhetoric relative to Florida as the main theme.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 26, 2020 8:24:59 GMT -5
Yeah, that's fair. And definitely not directed at you. It's just easy to skim and get a completely misleading idea of where they're at.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 26, 2020 15:57:17 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 26, 2020 16:51:03 GMT -5
Reportedly it would involve a 70-80% pay cut for the top earners. I can understand why that's a non-starter.
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Post by Oregon Norm on May 26, 2020 16:55:22 GMT -5
I'm not surprised. This is in line with the large reduction in the number of drafted players, and the elimination of minor league teams. The owners are going to take advantage of the current situation any way they can.
Let's see how the players respond. Unlike a mid-season strike or walkout, there's no baseball right now so they do have some leverage. Let's see how they use it.
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