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Red Sox Select Blaze Jordan, 3B/1B, DeSoto Central (MS)
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Post by foreverred9 on Jun 12, 2020 19:14:30 GMT -5
That’s a very piece. I doubt Blaze will ever be given credit for a homer longer than Ted Williams. Remember when Manny crushed on off the light tower and they said it was 501 feet.... Manny had himself a day that day.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 12, 2020 19:20:57 GMT -5
That’s a very piece. I doubt Blaze will ever be given credit for a homer longer than Ted Williams. Remember when Manny crushed on off the light tower and they said it was 501 feet.... Manny had himself a day that day. I went back and watched that exact same YouTube clip after I made that post.
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Post by PedroKsBambino on Jun 12, 2020 21:51:51 GMT -5
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Post by gerry on Jun 13, 2020 4:30:29 GMT -5
Just like the other Sox draftees in this CoVid 19 draft, the more we learn about them the better it looks. It seems each of them have a couple of significant standout tools. Looking forward to Jordan fine tuning his skills and would not be surprised, assuming he figures it out, if his power allows him to make the show by age 20 ... and put a couple where Manny did. We all cheered at the Chavis moonshots on 2019. Jordan Might be at another level.
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 14, 2020 10:32:32 GMT -5
Thank you Blaze for bringing me back into my 80s collection of The Alarm, given the "going out in a Blaze of Glory", and my running tapes of this live concert.
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 17, 2020 11:59:59 GMT -5
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jun 17, 2020 12:53:25 GMT -5
Great question, and the guy who asked it is a strikingly handsome fella!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 17, 2020 13:10:01 GMT -5
Great question, and the guy who asked it is a strikingly handsome fella! I'm going to guess he's a friend of yours? lol.
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jun 17, 2020 13:35:48 GMT -5
Great question, and the guy who asked it is a strikingly handsome fella! I'm going to guess he's a friend of yours? lol. You could say that!
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Post by huskies15 on Jun 17, 2020 17:04:45 GMT -5
universal DH (likely) becoming a thing makes Blaze an even better pick. I'll put on my rose-colored glasses and dream of Blaze/Casas becoming the new Manny/Ortiz
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Post by sarasoxer on Jun 17, 2020 19:51:04 GMT -5
universal DH (likely) becoming a thing makes Blaze an even better pick. I'll put on my rose-colored glasses and dream of Blaze/Casas becoming the new Manny/Ortiz It might be for the better if you discontinue the medication which arrives via brown paper.😊...and...and...what about Raffy?
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Post by coke0myfavdrink on Jun 17, 2020 20:15:04 GMT -5
universal DH (likely) becoming a thing makes Blaze an even better pick. I'll put on my rose-colored glasses and dream of Blaze/Casas becoming the new Manny/Ortiz It might be for the better if you discontinue the medication which arrives via brown paper.😊...and...and...what about Raffy? I say that will be a sick 2-3-4
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Post by philarhody on Jun 17, 2020 21:00:04 GMT -5
Gosh, if Jordan has swing and miss issues is he playable?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 17, 2020 22:11:33 GMT -5
Gosh, if Jordan has swing and miss issues is he playable? Guess it depends upon his ability to get on base via the walk and if the power plays in-game. Maybe he's Joey Gallo. But I thought I had read that he has a chance to have an average hit tool, so maybe he's a .260 hitter. If he has enough plate discipline to take his walks and he taps into his power, you have a really good player. He's only 17 so there's time for him to struggle and figure things out. He could be a DH who flames out in AAA or fringy in the majors or he could be a big part of the middle of the order. The raw materials are there. It's up to the Red Sox to really develop him and for Jordan to buy in.
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jun 18, 2020 7:34:40 GMT -5
Is anyone else concerned about his swing at all? I keep cringing when I see the back foot leave the dirt when he swings. One of the telltale signs elite power weight transfer, as seen with Harper, Moncada, etc. I know, but I see a less pure swing with him than the guys listed. Mainly it seems to be an all upper body approach. I know that there was an analysis shown where people said he needs to do things better swing wise. I just was curious if the people on Soxprospects liked his swing or not. I suppose he could generate so much force it forces him to leave his back foot, but on tape it seems there's more than weight transfer going on. Even Adam Dunn never left his back foot like this lol.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jun 18, 2020 10:37:39 GMT -5
One of the telltale signs elite power weight transfer, as seen with Harper, Moncada, etc. I know, but I see a less pure swing with him than the guys listed. Mainly it seems to be an all upper body approach. I know that there was an analysis shown where people said he needs to do things better swing wise. I just was curious if the people on Soxprospects liked his swing or not. I suppose he could generate so much force it forces him to leave his back foot, but on tape it seems there's more than weight transfer going on. Even Adam Dunn never left his back foot like this lol. If he can hit 500 foot bombs with his upper body only, he is an alien...makes my team!
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Post by badfishnbc on Jun 18, 2020 14:56:14 GMT -5
I have to believe that the pro environment is only going to benefit someone as raw as Blaze. It's been well-documented that the talent pool in Mississippi is awful, and as a result, Blaze was getting walked and pitched around constantly. The decision to reclassify was clearly a sign that he'd had enough of not seeing pitches and was ready to move on.
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Post by kman22 on Jun 18, 2020 15:36:33 GMT -5
I have to believe that the pro environment is only going to benefit someone as raw as Blaze. It's been well-documented that the talent pool in Mississippi is awful, and as a result, Blaze was getting walked and pitched around constantly. The decision to reclassify was clearly a sign that he'd had enough of not seeing pitches and was ready to move on. One of the write-ups about him referenced him becoming more results oriented and trying to hit more home runs as a result of being walked and pitched around. That led me to believe professional coaching is going to help him tremendously.
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jun 18, 2020 22:57:37 GMT -5
I know, but I see a less pure swing with him than the guys listed. Mainly it seems to be an all upper body approach. I know that there was an analysis shown where people said he needs to do things better swing wise. I just was curious if the people on Soxprospects liked his swing or not. I suppose he could generate so much force it forces him to leave his back foot, but on tape it seems there's more than weight transfer going on. Even Adam Dunn never left his back foot like this lol. If he can hit 500 foot bombs with his upper body only, he is an alien...makes my team! Haha this is what makes it so confusing for me. He can hit these monster bombs, and has big bat speed. If that's all arms then I can only imagine what he can do when his lower body is incorporated.
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jun 18, 2020 23:03:24 GMT -5
I have to believe that the pro environment is only going to benefit someone as raw as Blaze. It's been well-documented that the talent pool in Mississippi is awful, and as a result, Blaze was getting walked and pitched around constantly. The decision to reclassify was clearly a sign that he'd had enough of not seeing pitches and was ready to move on. Exactly. I felt like he needed a lot of work on his swing, but the potential is enormous. I just didn't get the high rankings he was receiving when the swing needed so much work, imo. The pro coaches will get him to change his launch angles, but most importantly smooth out his weight distribution. As it stands now he will most likely get destroyed by off speed pitches if he doesn't sit back more. All just a matter of opinion of course. His ceiling is just so monsterous it's fun to dream on. If the Sox are going to take a risky HS pick I am so happy its with the type of player like Jordan vs. a hit tool only type.
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Post by ramireja on Jun 19, 2020 11:40:29 GMT -5
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Post by gerry on Jun 19, 2020 14:58:23 GMT -5
Thanks for this, ramireja. Jordan, at age 17, playing at least a level above his age for years, has been considered not just a remarkable power hitter, but a good hitter, “comfortable in the box” and able to “manipulate the bat” for hard contact. Taking what was given by a pitcher or a defense is a skill not all major leaguers possess, and this kid already demonstrates that skill.
That he was anticipated to be around the top of his 2021 draft class is not a throwaway line. Being a celebrated prodigy since he was 13 was bound to develop granular scrutiny along with the praise. Yes he could flop. He is a 17 year old high school junior turned professional, a very young prospect. Nevertheless, in a crazy brief draft, the Sox took a likely 2021 first round talent a year early, and will have that extra year to help him develop all elements of his precocious talent. All good.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jun 19, 2020 15:10:57 GMT -5
So from what I've read on here, the worst-case scenario is that he becomes the 2nd coming of Rob Deer?
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Post by Canseco on Jun 19, 2020 15:32:21 GMT -5
So from what I've read on here, the worst-case scenario is that he becomes the 2nd coming of Rob Deer? Ha! Honest to goodness, I was going to make this same comparison yesterday, but never got around to posting it.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 19, 2020 15:40:25 GMT -5
So from what I've read on here, the worst-case scenario is that he becomes the 2nd coming of Rob Deer? Or perhaps Brentz Bryce. There's no guarantee this kid even gets to the majors. The 2nd coming of Rob Deer is still a reasonably productive player. That wouldn't be his worst case scenario. That said, despite the concerns, I'm still excited about what this kid can be. He's so young. I mean, it could take 6 years to develop him and he'd still come to the majors at a youngish age. And if he does develop as you'd dream, you're talking about somebody who might be a .275 hitter (maybe even better) with consistent 40 HR power and if he has plate discipline, you're talking about a fixture in the middle of the order. But right now there is such a wide range between his floor and ceiling that if he wound up the 2nd coming of Deer, we might be a bit disappointed, but he'd still be a guy who's productive, but it's possible the floor is lower than that. I have hope that this kid could be better than Rob Deer or Joey Gallo.
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