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2020 Draft Signing Period
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Post by coke0myfavdrink on Jun 21, 2020 19:27:37 GMT -5
Does that story push Cuba in to the top 60?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 21, 2020 19:33:25 GMT -5
They didn't have to show him the money!
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jun 21, 2020 22:04:55 GMT -5
They didn't have to show him the money! Gooding one
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 21, 2020 22:37:58 GMT -5
Accounting post:
Jacinto Arredondo, RHP, Tampa | Link Jordan DiValerio, RHP, Saint Joseph's Graham Hoffman, RHP, South Florida Jake MacKenzie, INF, Fordham Cole Milam, RHP, Southern Illinois-Edwardsville Henry Nunez-Rijo, RHP, Puerto Rico HS, Guaynabo, P.R. Juan Montero, C, Puerto Rico Baseball Academy, Guarabo, P.R. | Link Jose Garcia, C/1B, Florida International | Link Merfy Andrew, RHP, St. Thomas (Fla.)| Link Brian Van Belle, RHP, Miami | Link | No. 16 ranked senior Cuba Bess, 1B, Grand Canyon | Link Maceo Campbell, RHP, Longwood (Va.) | Link Robert Kwiatkowski, RHP, Marshall | Link
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Post by ramireja on Jun 22, 2020 12:03:16 GMT -5
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Post by kman22 on Jun 22, 2020 12:10:52 GMT -5
That list suggests the Royals were very successful with UDFAs.
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Post by ramireja on Jun 22, 2020 14:05:13 GMT -5
Yup, the Phillies also cleaned up according to rankings. They signed 5 UDFAs from BA's Top 500 (4 in the top 400) in addition to two senior signs from their top 25 senior sign list. I will say though in comparing some of these guys to our draft haul, I don't perceive a huge difference between someone ranking between 300-500 and say Brian Van Belle, Cuba Bess, or Jake MacKenzie. Even guys like Jacinto Arredondo or Merfy Andrew seemingly have as much relief upside as others in the Top 500 but lack the track record or pedigree that comes from playing in a top D1 school.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 22, 2020 15:06:42 GMT -5
You're punching my ticket here. The top 50 are a crap shoot let alone the far reaches of those lists. Especially this year it's going to be all about scouting: who knows what about who and where.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 22, 2020 20:30:15 GMT -5
Does that story push Cuba in to the top 60? If you're being serious, no, not yet.
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Post by coke0myfavdrink on Jun 22, 2020 20:55:57 GMT -5
Does that story push Cuba in to the top 60? If you're being serious, no, not yet. I was being serious and thank you for answering. I do not feel it is a ridiculous question to ask considering the lack of depth in the system.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 23, 2020 9:21:19 GMT -5
I guess I just didn't see what in the article would make him a top 60 prospect. Sorry - I certainly didn't mean to offend. I thought you might've been making a joke about the system's depth or something.
Bess will be 23 next year and has had one good, healthy college season in a minor D-I conference. He's way behind on the age curve - consider that most of the college guys they drafted last year (Zeferjahn, Murphy, Cannon) are younger than him, Song being essentially the same age - apparently has had issues staying healthy, and is limited to first base.
Maybe there's something there in the bat, but he's going to have to hit pretty much immediately and do so all the way up the ladder to register as a prospect for me. He's interesting, but I'm not considering Bess or any of the UDFAs for ranking until they give me a reason to do so in pro ball.
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Post by coke0myfavdrink on Jun 23, 2020 11:24:33 GMT -5
I guess I just didn't see what in the article would make him a top 60 prospect. Sorry - I certainly didn't mean to offend. I thought you might've been making a joke about the system's depth or something. Bess will be 23 next year and has had one good, healthy college season in a minor D-I conference. He's way behind on the age curve - consider that most of the college guys they drafted last year (Zeferjahn, Murphy, Cannon) are younger than him, Song being essentially the same age - apparently has had issues staying healthy, and is limited to first base. Maybe there's something there in the bat, but he's going to have to hit pretty much immediately and do so all the way up the ladder to register as a prospect for me. He's interesting, but I'm not considering Bess or any of the UDFAs for ranking until they give me a reason to do so in pro ball. I am not stating he should be in the top 60 i am asking you if he should be in the top 60. I think the red sox wasted resources to sign Cuba if he not a top 60 prospect in their eyes.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 23, 2020 11:28:53 GMT -5
I guess I just didn't see what in the article would make him a top 60 prospect. Sorry - I certainly didn't mean to offend. I thought you might've been making a joke about the system's depth or something. Bess will be 23 next year and has had one good, healthy college season in a minor D-I conference. He's way behind on the age curve - consider that most of the college guys they drafted last year (Zeferjahn, Murphy, Cannon) are younger than him, Song being essentially the same age - apparently has had issues staying healthy, and is limited to first base. Maybe there's something there in the bat, but he's going to have to hit pretty much immediately and do so all the way up the ladder to register as a prospect for me. He's interesting, but I'm not considering Bess or any of the UDFAs for ranking until they give me a reason to do so in pro ball. I am not stating he should be in the top 60 i am asking you if he should be in the top 60. I think the red sox wasted resources to sign Cuba if he not a top 60 prospect in their eyes. How little money do you think the Red Sox have if you're upset about them using $20k on a guy? Also, I would imagine none of the UDFA's will make the top 60 outside of maybe Van Belle so it's interesting you're targeting Cuba specifically.
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Post by fdrnewdeal on Jun 23, 2020 12:23:31 GMT -5
I guess I just didn't see what in the article would make him a top 60 prospect. Sorry - I certainly didn't mean to offend. I thought you might've been making a joke about the system's depth or something. Bess will be 23 next year and has had one good, healthy college season in a minor D-I conference. He's way behind on the age curve - consider that most of the college guys they drafted last year (Zeferjahn, Murphy, Cannon) are younger than him, Song being essentially the same age - apparently has had issues staying healthy, and is limited to first base. Maybe there's something there in the bat, but he's going to have to hit pretty much immediately and do so all the way up the ladder to register as a prospect for me. He's interesting, but I'm not considering Bess or any of the UDFAs for ranking until they give me a reason to do so in pro ball. I am not stating he should be in the top 60 i am asking you if he should be in the top 60. I think the red sox wasted resources to sign Cuba if he not a top 60 prospect in their eyes. As another post commented, its 20 k. As for whether or not he should be in the top 60... do we have any reason to believe he's a better prospect at present time than Joe Davis? Davis appears to be less athletic, but has a longer track record as a hitter (and is about the same age). I don't think anyone thinks Davis is a waste of resources. He's an interesting org guy who could if everything breaks well be something more. Teams need guys who can put up professional at bats in the minors. Even if they're not likely to be prospects. Cuba may be more than this... but even if he isn't, he fills a role with the team. My only question is why did he sign with Boston. Let's say he surprises folks and shows enough bat to dream on him as a potential big leaguer. Between Casas, Jordan, Davis, and Castellanos, there will be a lot of competition for limited at bats in the lower levels. That was my only beef with the Yorke pick, too.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 23, 2020 13:17:04 GMT -5
The story from Bradford points out that one scout thought enough of him to sit on the phone for when the time came. That and the interest the team took in him - with Bogaerts reaching out - probably had a bit to do with the signing. The 20K isn't enough to get the grass mowed at Fenway so it's not much of an issue. As has been said, he's not the youngest bat around. If this thing ever gets started up again, let's see where the placement is and how he does.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 23, 2020 14:54:50 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 23, 2020 15:25:00 GMT -5
Jordan DiValerio, Jacinto Arredondo, and Brian Van Belle are the first official signings to come across the transaction wire for those keeping track at home.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 24, 2020 13:12:14 GMT -5
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 24, 2020 13:22:09 GMT -5
MIKE, WHICH DRAFT PICKS DO YOU PREDICT THEY'LL SIGN AND WHICH WILL GO TO SCHOOL? Early prediction: Nick Yorke $2,000,000 Blaze Jordan $2,500,000 Jeremy Wu-Yelland $300,000 Shane Drohan $500,000 Total $5,300,000 If Blaze is getting "only" $1.75, then Wu-Yelling and Drohan must be getting slot. Wu-Yelling slot -- $487,900 Drohan slot----------- $364,400 ---------------------------------- $852,300 add in Blaze----------$1,750,000 --------------------------------- $2,602,300 Total Sox slots $5,129,900 leaves $2,527,600 for Yorke (plus the overage).
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Post by ramireja on Jun 24, 2020 13:26:47 GMT -5
This is excellent news, I had a slight concern that the Sox viewed Blaze as highly signable but wasn't a definite to sign. Anyways, that figure would leave $3,636,395 to sign the other 3 picks. I could see something like ~$3.0M to Yorke, ~$200K to Wu-Yelland, ~$400K to Drohan; but I'm sure the other three are locks to sign regardless of how the $ is distributed.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 24, 2020 14:40:55 GMT -5
Red Sox announced 11 of the 13 known UDFA signings. Only the PR HS signings weren't announced.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 25, 2020 20:05:23 GMT -5
Sooooo. Since Blaze' signing is more than the combined 3rd, 4th & 5th allotment, the Sox are going to get hammered if they can't sign Yourke.
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Post by cdj on Jun 25, 2020 20:57:54 GMT -5
I’m not all that concerned about it
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 25, 2020 22:11:28 GMT -5
Sooo. Since Blaze' signing is more than the combined 3rd, 4th & 5th allotment, the Sox are going to get hammered if yjey can't sign Yourke. Ignoring the fact that almost all first round picks sign and that this is a draft where teams were trying to be especially sure the guys they took would be signable, they clearly like Yorke better than Jordan so they'd make sure they signed him and let Jordan walk if it really came down to it.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 25, 2020 22:23:02 GMT -5
Yorke said they met his number the night of the draft. It's a matter of the physical, tests, etc. coming back.
He'll probably get something like 2.75M. That'll balance out the Jordan pick perfectly. Then Drohan gets a little above, JWY a little below slot.
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