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Post by tyler3 on Feb 26, 2021 1:31:09 GMT -5
And I agree with you there...but as you and many others have pointed out...without that year of college ball last year who knows. For example last year could have been Davis’s break out year, and he raked in the limited time given but who knows. As we all know, lost year, ton can change in 4 months...but I am beginning to wonder given where the Sox are picking..about them simply going under slot. Because if Kumar and Leiter hold serve...well there are so many high school guys with similar traits/value. Marcelo, Brady, Jordan, and now I’m hearing Khalil...they are all different variations of the up the middle HS bat. I think it would be tempting to just see who gave you the best deal and then land another big fish early in round 2. Or see what college guy would do the same. If Henry Davis continues to rake and with that 70 arm of his...He’s gonna climb within the top 6 or 7. Would love to take him and then snag a nasty HS bat or arm in round 2.
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Post by unitspin on Feb 26, 2021 6:55:03 GMT -5
That may be true that the bats in general are not as heralded as previous years due to the canceled games and so forth. But the arms in this draft are above and beyond any draft that I remember in the last 5 or so drafts. Teams picking in the teens or twenties will have a chance at some solid arms that in other years could have been top ten guys.
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Post by jimoh on Feb 26, 2021 7:35:23 GMT -5
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Post by badfishnbc on Feb 26, 2021 11:11:38 GMT -5
Kiley's new top 10 on ESPN.com ( Insider) 1. Lawler 2. Leiter 3. Rocker 4. Hill 5. McLain 6. Mayer 7. House 8. Hoglund 9. Del Castillo 10. Watson Says House is probably a 3B long-term, but has a good chance to stick at SS. Says Fabian's struggles in the opening weekend were mostly against breaking balls.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 26, 2021 11:29:57 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 26, 2021 11:59:22 GMT -5
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Post by unitspin on Feb 26, 2021 12:43:55 GMT -5
Anyone know if house is going to pitch this year? I know at one point he was listed as a possible dual threat.
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Post by badfishnbc on Feb 26, 2021 13:58:15 GMT -5
Anyone know if house is going to pitch this year? I know at one point he was listed as a possible dual threat. Everything I've seen of late says he throws 97 when pitching, but it's written in the context of whether he could make a switch to 3B.
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Post by tyler3 on Feb 26, 2021 15:10:19 GMT -5
I think Joshua Baez is a potential dual threat guy, may be around at 40. Kumar might really be an option for us. People were saying earlier that talk about him landing with the Sox were preposterous but he has a couple things he really needs to do. His slider is the truth and his fastball is vary nasty early as well. But as the game goes on his fastball tend to move less, lose velocity, and his command can go. This really leaves him with a high pitch count, walks, and just the slider he can rely on from like the 4th on. Now the slider is so good he can still get college guys out past the 4th but it might be tough to project that against big leaguers.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 26, 2021 17:27:31 GMT -5
Jaden Hill is slated to pitch tonight - game is available on ESPN+.
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Post by unitspin on Feb 26, 2021 18:08:31 GMT -5
Jaden Hill is slated to pitch tonight - game is available on ESPN+. Thanks for the heads up I'll deff watch that.
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Post by tyler3 on Feb 27, 2021 0:28:48 GMT -5
Jud Fabian with another bomb tonight and ended up going 2 for 4. That doesn’t include an extremely loud out at the wall in dead center where the CF looks to have robbed Fabian of another one at the 400ft sign. Also made a spectacular catch in center himself to end the game I believe. Thats 3 jacks in the last 2 games and damn near 4. Another guy to keep an eye on is Sam Bachman. Pitcher out of Miami, Ohio. Has three very good pitches and sat between 94-97 tonight TO at 100. What makes him so good is that all his pitchers play off each other so we’ll. The fast moves to the right and up, the slider down and left, and the change fades down and to the right. Arm speed or slot doesn’t change for any of them. So what the rub? Small school, limited track record, 6ft 1in I think, and delivery is a turn off to some scouts. 6 inning shut out with 10ks tonight, ain’t SEC competition but he is filthy.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Feb 27, 2021 6:42:04 GMT -5
Jaden Hill is slated to pitch tonight - game is available on ESPN+. I didn’t watch but he apparently was dealing. Six innings and he only gave up one hit, striking out four. Even better, no walks. From the very minimal stuff I've read, working on command is a major goal for him this season. If he keeps this up, he might not be there at pick four. I care because I tagged him as the guy the Sox would take. Edit. I just saw we have a college baseball thread now and there are several posts about his game in that thread. Happy to have a moderator move or completely delete this.
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Post by lennsakata on Feb 27, 2021 13:16:53 GMT -5
Looks like Andrew Painter was limited to 3 innings in his first start, no hits or walks and struck out 6. Really like this kid, reminds me of Mick Abel a bit but with perhaps an even higher ceiling. Probably will be hard for him to get into position for the Sox to consider with the top college pitchers and HS bats being safer bets but he looks like he’ll be a good one.
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Post by radiohix on Feb 27, 2021 15:02:37 GMT -5
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Post by unitspin on Feb 27, 2021 18:42:06 GMT -5
A guy can dream that teams are dumb enough to let rocker drop to us at #4.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 27, 2021 23:44:25 GMT -5
Maybe the Sox tanked for Kumar after all?
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Post by blizzards39 on Feb 28, 2021 0:13:00 GMT -5
Maybe the Sox tanked for Kumar after all? I wonder if the theory behind teams passing on Rocker is - contract related ? - they would rather have a position player ? - they don’t have faith in his future ? He has been the consensus top prospect now for quite some time. Any guess on where Rocker would fit into the RedSox and top 100 rankings?
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Post by manfred on Feb 28, 2021 0:19:08 GMT -5
Maybe the Sox tanked for Kumar after all? I wonder if the theory behind teams passing on Rocker is - contract related ? - they would rather have a position player ? - they don’t have faith in his future ? He has been the consensus top prospect now for quite some time. Any guess on where Rocker would fit into the RedSox and top 100 rankings? I don’t know about contract demands, but he is a junior, so could go back... but the two high school guys seem to have even more leverage. Dunno. My guess is a) these sorts of assessments don’t mean much; and b) Rocker may simply have a few hiccups (stamina?) that pushes him down ... at the moment. All I know is, there are more guys to be excited about than teams drafting ahead of the Sox. I’m not even bothering to focus much... what will be, will he. But it seems tough not to make an exciting addition.
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 28, 2021 0:26:30 GMT -5
A guy can dream that teams are dumb enough to let rocker drop to us at #4. I really don't think it'd be "dumb" to take any of those guys ahead of rocker based off what they've shown. There's a lot more baseball to be played before we know what the draft is going to look like.
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Post by tyler3 on Feb 28, 2021 1:33:46 GMT -5
Rocker is talented. But his presumptive number 1 status was due to him finishing on a high note 2 years ago and then the next season in college being canceled. He’s famous for the no hitter..but he has enough warts to fall especially if you consider that the one demographic this draft is historically strong is in Hs shortstops which tend to rocket up on draft day. You have two guys predicted to stay at SS (Mayer, Lawlar) who also happen to have the best hit tool in the draft for HS. One has speed, the other serious potential power. Follow that up with Watson and House, dynamic power and also “potential SS”. Kumar has two plus plus pitches for the first 3 to 4 innings. He has one after that ( command/velocity/movement) start to suffer for the FB. He can definitely prove that he’s past that this year. But when he threw 8 straight balls to start inning five in his first start, it reinforced a narrative. All I’m saying is a long way to go, but he could be there at 4 when all is said and done and they Red Sox might not pick him.
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Post by danredhawk on Feb 28, 2021 2:10:05 GMT -5
Another guy to keep an eye on is Sam Bachman. Pitcher out of Miami, Ohio. Has three very good pitches and sat between 94-97 tonight TO at 100. What makes him so good is that all his pitchers play off each other so we’ll. The fast moves to the right and up, the slider down and left, and the change fades down and to the right. Arm speed or slot doesn’t change for any of them. So what the rub? Small school, limited track record, 6ft 1in I think, and delivery is a turn off to some scouts. 6 inning shut out with 10ks tonight, ain’t SEC competition but he is filthy. You might even call him...SamRedhawk... www.lookoutlanding.com/2020/11/30/21724044/2021-draft-scouting-report-sam-bachman
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 28, 2021 13:03:17 GMT -5
Rocker is currently pitching on ESPN+, Leiter is pitching the second half of the doubleheader at 3:30pm.
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Post by tyler3 on Feb 28, 2021 13:04:48 GMT -5
Rocker having a tough start today.
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Post by cdj on Feb 28, 2021 13:26:18 GMT -5
Kumar, pick 40? *eyeball emoji*
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