mobaz
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Post by mobaz on Jul 21, 2020 7:01:28 GMT -5
Well, it looks like this might really be happening. What a strange way to start a season (obv). Rather than rosters and infectious diseases and opt-outs, I wanted to start talking about actual on the field baseball.
Anyone want to stick their necks out there for predictions? Are any of these actually bold?
The Red Sox will feature a Bottom 5 infield defense. No one will care because Devers and Bogarts will RAKE, making a 1-2 combo we haven't seen since Manny/Ortiz.
We'll get Good Jackie Bradley Jr. for 60 games, and we'll wonder what could have been on a full season (while forgetting he'd have had a similar 60 game slump along the way over 162).
Duran starts playing over Benintendi before the end of the year.
The pitching isn't as bad as anticipated, and we end up middle of the pack again.
Not bold prediction: everyone here bitches that they didn't do badly enough in a fake season to get a top draft pick and laments for years missing out on Player X at the top of the draft.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 21, 2020 7:14:27 GMT -5
Baseball lasts until September and the Sox get their tax reset then land Mookie this coming offseason at a discount to what could have been had this been a normal year.
Sox finish middle of the pack but trade several players eating dollars at the trade deadline and start a rebuild of the minor league pitching.
Peraza outplays Chavis significantly and becomes the designated placeholder until Jeter Downs is ready.
Sox hold onto Munoz who becomes next year's Brockstar.
Arauz surprises.
Duran impresses.
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Post by costpet on Jul 21, 2020 8:02:06 GMT -5
Duran is my favorite minor league player. If he does well and the Sox think he can handle the job, you might see him in center field and a trade of Bradley for some good minor league pitching. Somehow Mookie has to come back.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 21, 2020 8:17:39 GMT -5
Not sure a Bradley trade is dependent on Duran, is it? Seems like Pillar/Verdugo/Benintendi could all handle CF this year and Verdugo/Benintendi/Duran/Jimenez would be options for the future.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 21, 2020 8:23:46 GMT -5
Not sure a Bradley trade is dependent on Duran, is it? Seems like Pillar/Verdugo/Benintendi could all handle CF this year and Verdugo/Benintendi/Duran/Jimenez would be options for the future. I think a Bradley trade is more dependent on the Sox standings at the trade deadline than any thought of a replacement. If they are out of it, Lin can be the center fielder. This is JBJ's walk year and like I said, the Sox are in a position to eat his entire salary to get a better prospect. Go JBJ.... ADD: When I said above Duran impresses, I didn't neccesarily mean in the majors. If the Sox are out of it, I'm not so sure they will start his clock ticking. I just think it's his time to shine for the Sox brass.
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Post by dmaineah on Jul 21, 2020 9:51:40 GMT -5
You want BOLD, here it is;
Darwinzon Hernandez is impressive out of the pen & starts a few games and the debate over Starter or Closer is intensified & continues into next off season.
Peraza proves to be the best signing by Bloom and earns the starting job at 2nd base.
Jeter Downs is the starting Center Fielder during the last month of the season.
Chavis proves to be a valuable bench player with time at 1B, 3B, 2B, and even gets some time in LF
Vazquez hits 300 with 10 Home Runs, & plays outstanding defense & is the unheralded MVP of the team
Nobody who starts more then 7 games has an era of under 4.50
The Pitching Staff as a whole is the worst in the Division & the Red Sox finish under .500
No trades are made at anytime during the season
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 21, 2020 10:11:04 GMT -5
The Red Sox hang in there well enough to finish 27-33 despite awful starting pitching. Verdugo hits well. Vazquez slumps off. Chavis takes a step forward. Perez is awful as is Godley. Brian Johnson pitches reasonably well. Workman is nowhere near where he was last season and by season's end Hernandez is the closer even though he still walks way, way too many guys.
Matt Hall winds up being the pleasant surprise of the pitching staff.
The Red Sox do reset the luxury tax, but as far as Mookie Betts goes, it doesn't matter. Mookie is gone and never coming back. The Dodgers will re-sign him although the Mets will go after him.
If the Sox do spend big $ - hard to see Bloom throwing a lot of money at a player, it'll wind up being George Springer coming home.
And yes Duran does wind up in CF by the end of the year as JBJ winds up being dealt for a AA middle reliever.
I think JD Martinez remains with the Red Sox but I'm only 51-49 on that. If Bloom thinks he can find a value deal for him, he'll make it.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 21, 2020 10:53:58 GMT -5
I don't get all the love for Peraza. His best season was .742 ops playing SS, even if he hits that way again he won't give you that same value at 2B. Chavis even after an injury tanked his numbers still hit .766 and played rather good D at 2B given he only played a handful of games there before playing in the majors. I think Chavis adjusts to the high fastballs and helps form the best 3B, SS and 2B hitting combo in the league.
I just don't see the upside with Peraza, his major league numbers are about what you would expect given his minor league numbers. In five years he put up one season better than Chavis did last year based off of bwar and he was playing SS with it's .8 bwar adjustment for SS. His 2016 numbers kinda show that as he hit .762 in a half season, but played everywhere and didn't get a big jump from just playing SS. Anything is possible in a short season, yet I see much more potential for Chavis.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 21, 2020 11:08:02 GMT -5
I don't get all the love for Peraza. His best season was .742 ops playing SS, even if he hits that way again he won't give you that same value at 2B. Chavis even after an injury tanked his numbers still hit .766 and played rather good D at 2B given he only played a handful of games there before playing in the majors. I think Chavis adjusts to the high fastballs and helps form the best 3B, SS and 2B hitting combo in the league. I just don't see the upside with Peraza, his major league numbers are about what you would expect given his minor league numbers. In five years he put up one season better than Chavis did last year based off of bwar and he was playing SS with it's .8 bwar adjustment for SS. His 2016 numbers kinda show that as he hit .762 in a half season, but played everywhere and didn't get a big jump from just playing SS. Anything is possible in a short season, yet I see much more potential for Chavis. His BA will be better. He might hit .270 - .280 or so but....his plate discipline will still be terrible. Unless he hits around .300 hard to see him being much of an asset on offense. I like Chavis' chance of being average or above average more than Peraza. Honestly I think the Sox would have been better off just bringing back Holt, but that ship has sailed.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 21, 2020 11:54:35 GMT -5
I don't get all the love for Peraza. His best season was .742 ops playing SS, even if he hits that way again he won't give you that same value at 2B. Chavis even after an injury tanked his numbers still hit .766 and played rather good D at 2B given he only played a handful of games there before playing in the majors. I think Chavis adjusts to the high fastballs and helps form the best 3B, SS and 2B hitting combo in the league. I just don't see the upside with Peraza, his major league numbers are about what you would expect given his minor league numbers. In five years he put up one season better than Chavis did last year based off of bwar and he was playing SS with it's .8 bwar adjustment for SS. His 2016 numbers kinda show that as he hit .762 in a half season, but played everywhere and didn't get a big jump from just playing SS. Anything is possible in a short season, yet I see much more potential for Chavis. It's a "Bold Predictions" thread. Just have fun with it.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 21, 2020 13:35:45 GMT -5
Ok. If we're going to be bold, that young 2b from Minnesota, Arraez,will challenge the .400 mark over the shortened season.
Now watch him struggle to hit .250 now that I've put the whammy on him.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Jul 21, 2020 13:43:51 GMT -5
The Red Sox have a negative run differential on the year but snag a wild card spot, get hot at the right time, and win the pennant.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 21, 2020 14:02:13 GMT -5
Devers drives in 90 or so runs (assuming a 60 game season) breaking the RBI per game record (Whatever that is, doesn't matter, because as I said Devers is breaking it).
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Post by jbsox on Jul 21, 2020 16:18:17 GMT -5
Beni is going to have a big breakout season, and JBJ is going to hit at least.......... .260. Yup I’m going bold! Lol
I also think the starting pitching will boldly be better than expected. Eovaldi and Erod (after getting his feet under him) will be a solid 1,2 punch, Weber and Perez will hold their own, and we’ll find what works best between all the pieces for the 5th spot. I think Hernandez might play a big role in the 5th spot an an opener, bulk guy, or however else they play it out.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 21, 2020 16:42:35 GMT -5
A's win the series.
Sox sign Mookie. I think the terrible sadness of watching him play for another team will make it spiritually impossible for them not to.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 21, 2020 20:38:27 GMT -5
I have the feeling that Mookie has moved on. He seems like a curious guy who wants to experience new things across the board. He will be in the driver's seat. Money yes, but a chance to win again are available to him. Dodgers and any other top team will attract. The Sox won't be that next year or likely year after given the pitching staff. Mookie will be in a hurry. It's going to hurt.
Every year I think JBJ will rise from the ashes. This is another such year but given FA, his early committment to going to left plus bunting will elevate the average to .260 plus. Pillar will have his best stats given adequate plate appearances.
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 21, 2020 23:20:07 GMT -5
Raffy makes us smile at the plate and cringe in the field. Xander builds off last season and is team MVP. Verdugo will be a polarizing player in this forum. Roenicke leaves us longing for Cora. Bloom proves his worth. Will Myers gets revisited.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 22, 2020 7:46:07 GMT -5
The Red Sox have a negative run differential on the year but snag a wild card spot, get hot at the right time, and win the pennant. Beyond bold prediction. More like a "miracle on 34th street" occurring. It would take another '67 style impossible dream with everything falling into place perfectly for this team hate to say.
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Post by manfred on Jul 22, 2020 9:54:15 GMT -5
Bold prediction: Mookie signs extension with Dodgers that seems like something the Sox could have done. Verdugo is mediocre when healthy.
Trade already being lumped in with Bagwell and Lynn by end of truncated season.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 22, 2020 11:15:02 GMT -5
By August 19th, we should have a real good idea of where the Sox will end up. 15 of the first 25 games are against the Rays (6), Yankees (7 (all in NY)) & Phillies (2)
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Post by mobaz on Aug 20, 2020 8:51:56 GMT -5
Well, it looks like this might really be happening. What a strange way to start a season (obv). Rather than rosters and infectious diseases and opt-outs, I wanted to start talking about actual on the field baseball. Anyone want to stick their necks out there for predictions? Are any of these actually bold? One month later, let's check in. Commentary in BOLD.
Not feeling so hot about my prediction ability. Verdugo has been a great season highlight, but the supernova of Dodgers Mookie makes that seem dimmer than it should.
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 27, 2020 18:35:14 GMT -5
Raffy makes us smile at the plate and cringe in the field. Xander builds off last season and is team MVP. Verdugo will be a polarizing player in this forum. Roenicke leaves us longing for Cora. Bloom proves his worth. Will Myers gets revisited. Not too bad.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 27, 2020 18:52:00 GMT -5
Baseball lasts until September and the Sox get their tax reset then land Mookie this coming offseason at a discount to what could have been had this been a normal year.Sox finish middle of the pack but trade several players eating dollars at the trade deadline and start a rebuild of the minor league pitching. Partial oopsPeraza outplays Chavis significantly and becomes the designated placeholder until Jeter Downs is ready. major oopsSox hold onto Munoz who becomes next year's Brockstar. Arauz surprises. Duran impresses. "ADD: When I said above Duran impresses, I didn't neccesarily mean in the majors. If the Sox are out of it, I'm not so sure they will start his clock ticking. I just think it's his time to shine for the Sox brass."
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Post by manfred on Sept 27, 2020 18:54:10 GMT -5
Bold prediction: Mookie signs extension with Dodgers that seems like something the Sox could have done. Verdugo is mediocre when healthy. Trade already being lumped in with Bagwell and Lynn by end of truncated season. Nailed it.
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Post by iakovos11 on Sept 27, 2020 18:55:52 GMT -5
Bold prediction: Mookie signs extension with Dodgers that seems like something the Sox could have done. Verdugo is mediocre when healthy. Trade already being lumped in with Bagwell and Lynn by end of truncated season. Nailed it. If nailing it means being completely wrong, sure - you nailed it.
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