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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 26, 2020 11:58:37 GMT -5
It's not called a pitching wheel, it's a pitching carousel.
Anyway, seemed like tracking the various machinations this year might be interesting. I'll try to keep this top post updated.
6/28: Set Club Player Pool ("CPP")
7/2: Signed Caleb Simpson
7/11: Added Mike Kickham to CPP
7/14: Placed Eduardo Rodriguez, Josh Taylor, and Darwinzon Hernandez on COVID IL
7/17: Signed Zack Godley. Added RJ Alvarez, Bobby Poyner, Tanner Houck and others to CPP. Optioned down Mike Shawaryn, Kickham, Simpson.
7/19: Collin McHugh opted out of the 2020 season.
7/21: Acquired Dylan Covey from TB. Removed Poyner from CPP.
7/22: Selected Covey's contract.
7/23: Set initial roster.
7/25: Claimed Stephen Gonsalves from NYM
7/26: Selected Godley's contract, optioned Covey.Claimed Robert Stock from PHI
7/29: Recalled Chris Mazza (Lucroy DFA)
8/6: Optioned Chris Mazza and Matt Hall (cutdown to 28)
8/7: Signed Seth Blair (Released Andreoli)
8/8: Recalled Dylan Covey and optioned Ryan Weber
8/10: Released Brian Johnson
8/11: Recalled Robert Stock and optioned Jeffrey Springs
8/12: Recalled Ryan Weber (Benintendi to IL)
8/13: Recalled Kyle Hart and optioned Robert Stock
8/16: Recalled Chris Mazza and optioned Dylan Covey
8/17: Activated Josh Taylor and optioned Chris Mazza
8/19: Claimed Andrew Triggs from SFG, optioned Marcus Walden and DFA'ed Mike Shawaryn and Stephen Gonsalves
8/20: Activated Darwinzon Hernandez (DFA Arroyo)
8/21: Traded Brandon Workman, Heath Hembree, and other stuff to Philadelphia for Nick Pivetta and Connor Seabold
8/22: Recalled Jeffrey Springs and Robert Stock
8/26: Outrighted Stephen Gonsalves to ATS, outrighted Mike Shawaryn off CPP, released RJ Alvarez.
8/29: Recalled Chris Mazza and placed Nathan Eovaldi on IL
8/31: Traded Josh Osich to Chicago (NL) for a PTBNL. Placed Darwinzon Hernandez on IL. Selected the contracts of Mike Kickham and Robinson Leyer.
9/2: Placed Kyle Hart on IL and recalled Andrew Triggs.
9/3: Placed Colten Brewer on IL and recalled Marcus Walden.
9/4: Recalled Matt Hall for doubleheader.
Days between additions since setting Initial CPP:
7/2-7/17: 15
7/17-7/21: 4
7/21-7/25: 4
7/25-7/26: 1
7/26-8/7: 12
8/7-8/19: 12
8/19-8/21: 2
8/21-??: ??
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Post by mobaz on Jul 26, 2020 12:10:57 GMT -5
It's not called a pitching wheel, it's a pitching carousel. Are you feeling nostalgia, an aching for a time when we had a full 5 man rotation, with a few backups on the farm? |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 7, 2020 15:08:53 GMT -5
Seth Blair, c'mon down!
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Post by manfred on Aug 7, 2020 15:10:52 GMT -5
One of them will eventually type Hamlet.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 7, 2020 15:13:09 GMT -5
Red Sox currently have 17 pitchers (plus the two rehabbers) in Pawtucket along with 5 catchers (someone's gotta catch them all), 5 infielders, 2 outfielders, and one utility player in Munoz. So eight non-pitcher, non-catcher players (not counting Wong, who to my knowledge is only catching).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 10, 2020 14:49:08 GMT -5
Team reportedly granted Brian Johnson his release.
I'd have been frustrated as hell too, so can't say I blame him for asking out.
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Post by manfred on Aug 10, 2020 14:52:25 GMT -5
Team reportedly granted Brian Johnson his release. I'd have been frustrated as hell too, so can't say I blame him for asking out. I hope he catches on somewhere that lets him get in some work. He could be a solid back end guy in the right place. Best wishes to BJ. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 19, 2020 13:37:10 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 19, 2020 13:41:16 GMT -5
Triggs came back from a 2018 Thoracic Outlet Surgery last year.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 19, 2020 13:41:42 GMT -5
Okay it's official Bloom is trying to mess with us. I can't see how DFA Gonslaves for a 31 year old Triggs makes any sense long-term.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 19, 2020 14:12:00 GMT -5
Okay it's official Bloom is trying to mess with us. I can't see how DFA Gonslaves for a 31 year old Triggs makes any sense long-term. Did you watch Gonsalves at all in Pawtucket? I was thoroughly unimpressed. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 19, 2020 14:13:17 GMT -5
Okay it's official Bloom is trying to mess with us. I can't see how DFA Gonslaves for a 31 year old Triggs makes any sense long-term. I guess Gonsalves was that unimpressive? Otherwise I don't get it. I don't get a lot of what's going on right now. Onto the next piece of spaghetti to throw against the wall. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 19, 2020 14:29:38 GMT -5
Okay it's official Bloom is trying to mess with us. I can't see how DFA Gonslaves for a 31 year old Triggs makes any sense long-term. Did you watch Gonsalves at all in Pawtucket? I was thoroughly unimpressed. No, remember I asked for a mini scouting report? Phil did and said his stuff looked good, just command/control issues. Hopefully he clears waivers, because I'd rather hope on him in 2021 being like a Brian Johnson type depth starter over a 31 year old reliever. A guy who was never that great and is coming off major surgery. Are you saying Gonslaves doesn't have that upside? |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 19, 2020 15:44:40 GMT -5
what I said:
"Gonsalves has impressive stuff but major control issues. He walked three batters in the second and another in the third. Definitely a project pitcher that is worth keeping. Hopefully Abbott can fix him."
To me, when someone uses the term "control" as opposed to "command and control", the locations are bad to the point that things like break are irrelevant. He will likely clear waivers because he isn't getting promoted this year. He has a long way to go.
I think he had a grand total of three outs over three innings before they shut down every inning for pitch count.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 26, 2020 13:55:30 GMT -5
Gonsalves and Shawaryn both cleared waivers. Former returns to the ATS, latter heads home. Also RJ Alvarez released, so one open spot they can play with for the trade deadline.
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Post by manfred on Aug 26, 2020 14:04:45 GMT -5
Gonsalves and Shawaryn both cleared waivers. Former returns to the ATS, latter heads home. Also RJ Alvarez released, so one open spot they can play with for the trade deadline. This is what sucks about this season. A guy like Shawaryn is hitting that crap-or-get-off-the-pot point of his career but he neither gets a try out or a minor league season to show (or improve) his stuff. Really young guys can catch up later, but it screws a guy like him. Not saying the Sox are at fault. They are subject to the same conditions. Just such a bad break. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 26, 2020 14:34:02 GMT -5
Gonsalves and Shawaryn both cleared waivers. Former returns to the ATS, latter heads home. Also RJ Alvarez released, so one open spot they can play with for the trade deadline. This is what sucks about this season. A guy like Shawaryn is hitting that crap-or-get-off-the-pot point of his career but he neither gets a try out or a minor league season to show (or improve) his stuff. Really young guys can catch up later, but it screws a guy like him. Not saying the Sox are at fault. They are subject to the same conditions. Just such a bad break. So the 14 games in Boston last year don't count ? |
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Post by manfred on Aug 26, 2020 14:38:03 GMT -5
This is what sucks about this season. A guy like Shawaryn is hitting that crap-or-get-off-the-pot point of his career but he neither gets a try out or a minor league season to show (or improve) his stuff. Really young guys can catch up later, but it screws a guy like him. Not saying the Sox are at fault. They are subject to the same conditions. Just such a bad break. So the 14 games in Boston last year don't count ? I’m not saying it would change things... I don’t see Shawaryn suddenly becoming the answer... but I sympathize with these players. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 26, 2020 18:22:32 GMT -5
This is what sucks about this season. A guy like Shawaryn is hitting that crap-or-get-off-the-pot point of his career but he neither gets a try out or a minor league season to show (or improve) his stuff. Really young guys can catch up later, but it screws a guy like him. Not saying the Sox are at fault. They are subject to the same conditions. Just such a bad break. So the 14 games in Boston last year don't count ? The ones were he pitched better than Hart currently is? In the year of the long ball versus a year where offense is down. The 14 games with one game being over 1/3 of the earned runs he allowed. The 14 games were eight of them he was better than league average ERA. It's a little weird, when he was averaging almost 13 strikeouts. You think he gets a chance. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 26, 2020 20:26:31 GMT -5
So the 14 games in Boston last year don't count ? I’m not saying it would change things... I don’t see Shawaryn suddenly becoming the answer... but I sympathize with these players. I do as well and it's not just Shawaryn, it's pretty much any player that was already behind the development curve or any player which this was a make it or break it year. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 27, 2020 8:41:48 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Shawaryn has another season before he's a free agent. But it's a fair point that he gets caught in the crunch a bit.
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