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9/8 Red Sox @ Phillies Series Thread
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 8, 2020 21:12:24 GMT -5
Brice is trying to tease us with a possible loss, walks two to bring the tying run to the plate.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 8, 2020 21:15:13 GMT -5
I don't like seeing a guy like Barnes blow a save.
Walden ... let's just say he no longer projects to be useful next year.
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 8, 2020 21:20:48 GMT -5
two bullets to outfielders; ah well, it's a split
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Post by incandenza on Sept 8, 2020 21:23:54 GMT -5
Red Sox have been downright mediocre lately - 9-11 in their last 20 games. Imagine if they had a starting rotation!
Yankees, by the way, are 5-15 in their last 20.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 8, 2020 21:28:16 GMT -5
Bombs Away !!
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Post by manfred on Sept 8, 2020 21:37:57 GMT -5
I don't like seeing a guy like Barnes blow a save.
Walden ... let's just say he no longer projects to be useful next year.
Seems he was... a fluke! Actually, I’m bummed. He showed decent stuff last year.
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 8, 2020 21:38:18 GMT -5
Dalbec with the fun .250/.314/.719 triple slash line for a 1.033 OPS.
And an 8.5% walk rate, 45% K rate, and .469 ISO. I guess that's what happens when you mix SSS with a player with interesting abilities.
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Post by gerry on Sept 8, 2020 21:44:36 GMT -5
i saw one MILB game with Bobby Bombs. He was on fire and he crushed pitches. I knew from that one game he would be in The Show. Can he stay ? I hope so, because those HR's are friggin' awesome to watch. Agree. Such easy power. Walk and singles also today. Two weeks in the Majors with a history of slow starts when beginning a higher level. IMO he can have all the time he needs to adjust and re-adjust. Importantly he is a good glove at 3B to back Raphael, and with those long levers, 3B quick twitch skills and rocket arm he looks to become a GG caliber 1B. I hope the watchword for him is patience. He is showing better than expected. With reps he could get those K’s under control. Not worried about it In his post game interview. Nice kid. Very smart. Learner. Ironically looks a bit like a tall version of a young Babe Ruth.
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Post by jl1947 on Sept 8, 2020 21:46:05 GMT -5
Dalbec is on pace for what ? 80 HR ? LOL. Imagine how much better he would be if O’brien actually pronounced his name correctly, instead of being like “another home run for Bobby Daubach”. I guess you don't like Rafael Devers new name (Rahfeehl) either.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 8, 2020 21:46:09 GMT -5
Dalbec with the fun .250/.314/.719 triple slash line for a 1.033 OPS. And an 8.5% walk rate, 45% K rate, and .469 ISO. I guess that's what happens when you mix SSS with a player with interesting abilities. The K rate should come down. If he can keep up the walk rate and continue to barrel up some pitches...I am giddy right now. Those are some big flies.
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 8, 2020 21:58:15 GMT -5
Dalbec with the fun .250/.314/.719 triple slash line for a 1.033 OPS. And an 8.5% walk rate, 45% K rate, and .469 ISO. I guess that's what happens when you mix SSS with a player with interesting abilities. The K rate should come down. If he can keep up the walk rate and continue to barrel up some pitches...I am giddy right now. Those are some big flies. true, and interesting tweet about that from redsoxstats on Bobby. All of this is super SSS, but if his swing and miss rate could land in the mid-30s that would be the dream for someone with his special kind of power.
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Post by sarasoxer on Sept 8, 2020 22:05:33 GMT -5
i saw one MILB game with Bobby Bombs. He was on fire and he crushed pitches. I knew from that one game he would be in The Show. Can he stay ? I hope so, because those HR's are friggin' awesome to watch. Agree. Such easy power. Walk and singles also today. Two weeks in the Majors with a history of slow starts when beginning a higher level. IMO he can have all the time he needs to adjust and re-adjust. Importantly he is a good glove at 3B to back Raphael, and with those long levers, 3B quick twitch skills and rocket arm he looks to become a GG caliber 1B. I hope the watchword for him is patience. He is showing better than expected. With reps he could get those K’s under control. Not worried about it In his post game interview. Nice kid. Very smart. Learner. Ironically looks a bit like a tall version of a young Babe Ruth. I think you mean Joe Hardy....
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Post by kman22 on Sept 8, 2020 22:06:56 GMT -5
In some kind of miracle, the Royals, Rangers, Nationals, and Pirates all won today, so no harm, no foul.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 8, 2020 22:13:24 GMT -5
Mazza was the 838th pick. And here he is throwing a good game. It’s the little things that make it beautiful. Menlo College (?). Now... Boston Red Sox. On the post-game they just showed his stats from his first two starts versus his last two (dramatically better), but his pERA has been decent from the beginning.
In fact, the crap luck he had in his first start (second game) was what inspired me to create pERA.
And I meant to post this this morning:
JBJ had a 40 wRC+ in his first 62 PA and a 141 in his subsequent 80 going into today, ranking 46th out of 128 MLB players in that stretch. I don't get people who don't get that all you have to do to "make him a better hitter" is to lengthen his hot streaks and shorten his slumps.
And it's not like this notion is untested. I called Carlos Pena's career turnaround on that principle and I talked about it when we traded away Travis Shaw, and that's all he did his first year in Milwaukee.
In JBJ's case, he seems to have a really hard time recovering his mechanics once he has lost them. It seems unlikely to me that you could ever change that. I mean, he's spent more than half his career trying to get out of slumps. He must have tried everything.
So you need to give him a method of staying locked-in. And that's much more promising. The key thing would be to figure out what happens when he loses his mechanics, and try to figure out the cause and then avoid it.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 8, 2020 22:23:18 GMT -5
For those that dare: www.mlb.com/standings/mlbSidenote: Baltimore is now 1/2 game behind the Yankees for the final wild card slot. That'd be fun.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 8, 2020 22:26:03 GMT -5
According to Ellias, Dalbec is the first Red Sox rookie to homer in 4 straight games.
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Post by gerry on Sept 8, 2020 22:26:59 GMT -5
In some kind of miracle, the Royals, Rangers, Nationals, and Pirates all won today, so no harm, no foul. LOLOL. On draft day we may all be in your debt as we pick one or two. Meanwhile, glad the competition is letting us win some games. We all probably want bright young guys like Devers, Verdugo, Dalbec, Muñoz, Chavis, Arauz, Grullon, Casas, Downs, Wong, Groome, Mata, etc. to maintain their drive to win, not train them to lose. BTW, contrary to Shaughnessy and Pete Abe, this team is not tanking. After a horrible start without Mookie, Price, Sale, ERod, Darwinzon, Taylor, Beni and then the trade deadline, this team is definitely in tryout mode. That’s not at all the same as tanking.
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Post by art on Sept 8, 2020 23:31:48 GMT -5
According to Ellias, Dalbec is the first Red Sox rookie to homer in 4 straight games. On the radio broadcast they said that Ted Williams did it too. I haven't checked on it and I'm not planning on doing so.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 9, 2020 9:18:55 GMT -5
Various tweets have Arroyo getting the bulk of the second base playing time which might be saying as much about Peraza and Chavis as it does about Arroyo. He looked pretty decent at the alt site but it seems 3B was his most used position there. To me, he isn't built like a typical second baseman.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 9, 2020 9:28:52 GMT -5
According to Ellias, Dalbec is the first Red Sox rookie to homer in 4 straight games. On the radio broadcast they said that Ted Williams did it too. I haven't checked on it and I'm not planning on doing so.
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Post by jimoh on Sept 9, 2020 11:34:22 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on Sept 9, 2020 11:54:46 GMT -5
JBJ had a 40 wRC+ in his first 62 PA and a 141 in his subsequent 80 going into today, ranking 46th out of 128 MLB players in that stretch. I don't get people who don't get that all you have to do to "make him a better hitter" is to lengthen his hot streaks and shorten his slumps.
And it's not like this notion is untested. I called Carlos Pena's career turnaround on that principle and I talked about it when we traded away Travis Shaw, and that's all he did his first year in Milwaukee.
In JBJ's case, he seems to have a really hard time recovering his mechanics once he has lost them. It seems unlikely to me that you could ever change that. I mean, he's spent more than half his career trying to get out of slumps. He must have tried everything.
So you need to give him a method of staying locked-in. And that's much more promising. The key thing would be to figure out what happens when he loses his mechanics, and try to figure out the cause and then avoid it.
He's lowered his pull rate this year a fair bit - 33% vs. a career average of 43%. He is also making less hard contact (28% vs. 35%) and hitting more ground balls (60% vs. 48%). I wonder if he's really committing himself to the opposite field approach more this year, as we are always screaming for him to do. His BABIP is up this year (.319 vs. .296 career). And here is his wOBA - xwOBA by season, along with shift percentages: 2015: .052 2016: .010, 30% 2017: -.013, 33% 2018: -.040, 52% 2019: -.013, 69% 2020: .028, 71% So allow me to attempt my ericvman impression and infer a detailed psychological narrative from these statistics . He was basically fine until they started shifting on him a bunch. And he recognized the issue right away. That led to an increasing emphasis on the opposite field approach. But it's not so easy as just willing it to happen, and maybe the attempt to change the approach is even what led to the cold streaks. (I seem to recall a quote where someone asked him "Why not go to the opposite field?" and his response was basically "Believe me, I'm trying to.") But the steady improvement in his wOBA vs. xwOBA stats implies he's being less and less penalized by the shift, i.e., his approach is working. He's finally put it together this season, as evidence by the notably different batted ball profile (which entails a moderate decrease in power that is more than made up for by a higher BABIP). The upshot is that he's been a league average hitter (102 wRC+ vs. ~90 each of the last three seasons), which plays very well with his defense. Either that or it's a SSS.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 9, 2020 12:57:47 GMT -5
He had 4 of 5 once, and that was over a four-day stretch because of doubleheaders (May 27-30). That might be what they were referring to.
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Post by soxin8 on Sept 9, 2020 14:05:50 GMT -5
Agree. Such easy power. Walk and singles also today. Two weeks in the Majors with a history of slow starts when beginning a higher level. IMO he can have all the time he needs to adjust and re-adjust. Importantly he is a good glove at 3B to back Raphael, and with those long levers, 3B quick twitch skills and rocket arm he looks to become a GG caliber 1B. I hope the watchword for him is patience. He is showing better than expected. With reps he could get those K’s under control. Not worried about it In his post game interview. Nice kid. Very smart. Learner. Ironically looks a bit like a tall version of a young Babe Ruth. I think you mean Joe Hardy.... In case you missed the reference, sarasoxer was alluding to this great baseball musical: www.imdb.com/title/tt0051516/
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Post by soxin8 on Sept 9, 2020 14:07:36 GMT -5
That's an utterly ridiculous slash line. This was a great capture and I thought exactly the same when I saw it.
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