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Post by manfred on Sept 26, 2020 17:29:34 GMT -5
#1 vs #8 in NBA playoffs are 67-5 since 1983/84. I don't ever hear #8 seeds that don't want to be there or people talking about ending that because it's so bad. I think the issue is that those numbers would not translate to baseball. 8 seeds would almost certainly do better than 5 out of 72.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 26, 2020 17:34:39 GMT -5
#1 vs #8 in NBA playoffs are 67-5 since 1983/84. I don't ever hear #8 seeds that don't want to be there or people talking about ending that because it's so bad. I think the issue is that those numbers would not translate to baseball. 8 seeds would almost certainly do better than 5 out of 72. Yes, that's entirely the issue here - outcomes are just much more random in baseball than the other sports. Even a 7-game series is not much more than a coin flip. There's just not much joy in watching a whole 162-game season where greatness isn't really rewarded.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 26, 2020 18:39:12 GMT -5
I think the issue is that those numbers would not translate to baseball. 8 seeds would almost certainly do better than 5 out of 72. Yes, that's entirely the issue here - outcomes are just much more random in baseball than the other sports. Even a 7-game series is not much more than a coin flip. There's just not much joy in watching a whole 162-game season where greatness isn't really rewarded. Part of the reason baseball is more random is because players focus comes and goes over the course of the season since it’s such a grind. That shouldn’t be the case in the playoffs. A 1 seed should beat an 8 seed at least 75% of the time and if they don’t then how great were they?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 26, 2020 19:14:40 GMT -5
I guess I don't understand. We don't want crappy teams making the playoffs, now it's were worried they'll win too much?
To add to RJP point about Randomness, I'd add guys getting rest, lineups not matching up like our back of rotation facing their top and home field advantage. That goes away in the playoffs.
If #1 teams can't beat #8 teams at a high rate doesn't that back up expanding the playoffs?
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Sept 26, 2020 19:25:22 GMT -5
I'm seriously beginning to wonder if Manfred is doing this to justify expansion into Nashville. 2 more teams would certainly make sense if the playoffs are going to stay this way. Is Nashville next up? I could see Vegas (with a dome, I’m guessing). I'm just reading the tea leaves. Dombrowski probably doesn't get involved with a bring baseball to city x unless it's realistic
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 27, 2020 17:18:19 GMT -5
The only similar thing I can think of is the FA Cup in England, which came up on the podcast a couple episodes ago. It's like the NCAA tournament, except if you started with he 16-14 seeds, then added the 9-13 seeds in the next round, then added the 5-8 seeds in the third round, then added the 3-4 seeds, etc. A bunch of rounds have already happened by the time the EPL teams come in. And if the whole "Baseball Cup" thing happens (no chance, imo), that's how you figure they'd probably do it, to some degree.
But yeah there's no chance that MLB will do something like that for the "real" playoffs. The point is to make money. Full stop.
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