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Post by dyoungteach on Feb 19, 2021 18:34:00 GMT -5
I predict Red Sox will use the number 4 pick on a shortstop of some sort. It really is a position that is lacking. Something not talked about...unless I'm out of the loop...Boras is Xander's agent now. That means, there is a very high likelihood that Xander opts out of his very team friendly contract to explore a long term major contract. Will Red Sox pay $30 million over 7 years for a shortstop?? Right now they don't have the depth at shortstop so they would be in a catch 22 position. That's why I believe it will be a shortstop at pick 4 even if it's underslot. OR THEY WILL BE CHASING A SHORTSTOP IN THE MARKET NEXT YEAR.
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Post by manfred on Feb 19, 2021 18:49:14 GMT -5
I predict Red Sox will use the number 4 pick on a shortstop of some sort. It really is a position that is lacking. Something not talked about...unless I'm out of the loop...Boras is Xander's agent now. That means, there is a very high likelihood that Xander opts out of his very team friendly contract to explore a long term major contract. Will Red Sox pay $30 million over 7 years for a shortstop?? Right now they don't have the depth at shortstop so they would be in a catch 22 position. That's why I believe it will be a shortstop at pick 4 even if it's underslot. OR THEY WILL BE CHASING A SHORTSTOP IN THE MARKET NEXT YEAR. Or, put differently, you are saying crazy rich John Henry, owner of the crazy rich Boston Red Sox will dump Mookie, Beni, and JBJ for financial flexibility... then let Xander walk? For what? The flexibility to resign... Dalbec? At some point surely the Sox can pony up for SOMEONE.
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 19, 2021 18:54:10 GMT -5
I predict Red Sox will use the number 4 pick on a shortstop of some sort. It really is a position that is lacking. Something not talked about...unless I'm out of the loop...Boras is Xander's agent now. That means, there is a very high likelihood that Xander opts out of his very team friendly contract to explore a long term major contract. Will Red Sox pay $30 million over 7 years for a shortstop?? Right now they don't have the depth at shortstop so they would be in a catch 22 position. That's why I believe it will be a shortstop at pick 4 even if it's underslot. OR THEY WILL BE CHASING A SHORTSTOP IN THE MARKET NEXT YEAR. Or, put differently, you are saying crazy rich John Henry, owner of the crazy rich Boston Red Sox will dump Mookie, Beni, and JBJ for financial flexibility... then let Xander walk? For what? The flexibility to resign... Dalbec? At some point surely the Sox can pony up for SOMEONE. Mookie is the only player worth "ponying up" for in that list in my mind. I definitely don't want to see xandy walk but unless he's okay with moving to 3rd base at some point I'm not giving him 30 million a year for 7 years.
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Post by manfred on Feb 19, 2021 18:59:54 GMT -5
Or, put differently, you are saying crazy rich John Henry, owner of the crazy rich Boston Red Sox will dump Mookie, Beni, and JBJ for financial flexibility... then let Xander walk? For what? The flexibility to resign... Dalbec? At some point surely the Sox can pony up for SOMEONE. Mookie is the only player worth "ponying up" for in that list in my mind. I definitely don't want to see xandy walk but unless he's okay with moving to 3rd base at some point I'm not giving him30 million a year for 7 years. I mean relatively. I mean it value neutrally, believe it or not. Point is... they have saved money on established guys, when does the savings get used?
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 19, 2021 19:02:38 GMT -5
Mookie is the only player worth "ponying up" for in that list in my mind. I definitely don't want to see xandy walk but unless he's okay with moving to 3rd base at some point I'm not giving him30 million a year for 7 years. I mean relatively. I mean it value neutrally, believe it or not. Point is... they have saved money on established guys, when does the savings get used? When guys like JD Martinez, Eovaldi and Pedroias contract are off the books. They have the 2nd highest payroll in baseball right now. These bloated contracts need to get off the payroll before they can use the "savings".
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Post by manfred on Feb 19, 2021 19:09:34 GMT -5
I mean relatively. I mean it value neutrally, believe it or not. Point is... they have saved money on established guys, when does the savings get used? When guys like JD Martinez, Eovaldi and Pedroias contract are off the books. They have the 2nd highest payroll in baseball right now. These bloated contracts need to get off the payroll before they can use the "savings". Well, I’d trade Eovaldi for a bag of balls if that was keeping them from resigning Xander. How many parts can you cut out before you kill the patient? At what point do they have nothing left to build *on*?
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Post by jimoh on Feb 19, 2021 19:41:24 GMT -5
I predict Red Sox will use the number 4 pick on a shortstop of some sort. It really is a position that is lacking. Something not talked about...unless I'm out of the loop...Boras is Xander's agent now. That means, there is a very high likelihood that Xander opts out of his very team friendly contract to explore a long term major contract. Will Red Sox pay $30 million over 7 years for a shortstop?? Right now they don't have the depth at shortstop so they would be in a catch 22 position. That's why I believe it will be a shortstop at pick 4 even if it's underslot. OR THEY WILL BE CHASING A SHORTSTOP IN THE MARKET NEXT YEAR. I don't think the #4 pick will be used to fill "a position that is lacking." Baseball is too hard to predict. You don't draft to fill a perceived need, because that need could be different when the player is ready for the majors. They will pick the best player available, or the one likely to bring most value.
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 19, 2021 19:58:09 GMT -5
When guys like JD Martinez, Eovaldi and Pedroias contract are off the books. They have the 2nd highest payroll in baseball right now. These bloated contracts need to get off the payroll before they can use the "savings". Well, I’d trade Eovaldi for a bag of balls if that was keeping them from resigning Xander. How many parts can you cut out before you kill the patient? At what point do they have nothing left to build *on*? I dont disagree on the eovaldi part. If some team would accept his whole contract I'd give him right up for nothing. That's not happening though.
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Post by Jimmy on Feb 19, 2021 20:23:26 GMT -5
Xander definitely opts out, right? Saw some takes he doesn’t because of COVID but I just don’t see him opting in...
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Post by ericmvan on Feb 19, 2021 21:27:44 GMT -5
Hmm, you are right. Not sure why I was thinking that. Bonaci it is. Learned something on the new episode of the podcast. It's "Bo-NAH-see." First name is something like "Bren-er". So the pronunciation of his first name is both tricky, and a no-'brainer.'
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Post by blizzards39 on Feb 19, 2021 21:40:16 GMT -5
The whole SS future in MLB is up in the air until after next years FA field. That said I’m not sure the Sox sign any of them. I probably see X opting out (unless the contract is redone before that time. And I think that is fairly probable). I’d also say X long term is probably not a great option defensively.
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Post by jimoh on Feb 19, 2021 21:40:50 GMT -5
Hmm, you are right. Not sure why I was thinking that. Bonaci it is. Learned something on the new episode of the podcast. It's "Bo-NAH-see." First name is something like "Bren-er". Bo as in bodega Na as in nachos Ci as in Cinco de Mayo Accent on second last syllable if the last syllable ends in a vowel (unless a written accent tells you it goes somewhere else)
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 19, 2021 23:11:06 GMT -5
I mean relatively. I mean it value neutrally, believe it or not. Point is... they have saved money on established guys, when does the savings get used? When guys like JD Martinez, Eovaldi and Pedroias contract are off the books. They have the 2nd highest payroll in baseball right now. These bloated contracts need to get off the payroll before they can use the "savings". That's part of it. The other part of it is when they are in serious contention for the division and more, not just some wild card hopeful hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. Where the White Sox are now in their cycle - that's the spot where I'd expect the Red Sox to go out and spend for outside talent or to extend their talent. I want Bogaerts to stay long term as much as anybody, but let's be serious about one thing here - if he stays here to 2026 or extends beyond that, he's not a SS going that far forward. Ideally the Sox would have signed Kim and could have eventually put him at SS (when Downs would be ready to take over 2b) and move Bogaerts to 3b. At some point his lack of range should get him moved off of SS, but then you're paying huge $ for a 3b, not a SS, which would change the math somewhat. And with Devers, we all know he can hit, but we don't know that he will stay at 3b. He has the ability to - we've seen what he can do when he's not making errors left and right, but when he is, or if you see his weight is going up, one can wonder if his future is at DH or 1b. One can also wonder if his lack of plate discipline at some point will undermine his offensive game. I'm playing devil's advocate here. I'd love to see Devers and Bogaerts stay, but a lot of that is my heart more than my head. I think Bogaerts is "Mr Red Sox" at this point when Ortiz long gone, Pedroia done, and Mookie never coming back, so I hope he stays and I hope he can deal with moving defensively, and I hope the Sox do get a good option that makes them want to move him. Right now that answer isn't in the upper farm system. The answer might be the #4 pick of the draft. Just for the record, I'm not saying the Sox will draft for a position of need - it's just a gut feeling that the 4th best player available will be a SS - and there's a good chance I'm wrong, but.... And with Devers, I suspect Cora's return, will positively impact him. I expect Cora to be on top of him with his conditioning, and to be on him for his defense, and if Cora feels that Devers is being too hacktastic swinging at pitches he really shouldn't I suspect he'll get that message through to Devers, as I feel that Cora's biggest strength is how he relates to his players. So I do feel that Cora will keep Devers at his best. But the Sox are going to be cautious with the extensions until the farm system starts producing putting the Red Sox in a position where they're highly competitive, and then I would anticipate they'll extend their players and start making some of the splashier moves that teams on the cusp of winning should do.
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Post by dyoungteach on Feb 20, 2021 4:57:16 GMT -5
I’m definitely saying Red Sox will draft to fill a hole in their system In a draft RICH with shortstop talent that will probably have a group of players ranked equally at the 4 slot. They won’t reach so much as they will fill a hole with an equal talent at a position of need in system with potential to be a star. UNLESS there is a talent far superior sitting there that they can’t pass up.
As for Xander and contract. Sure Red Sox can afford it. I picked 30 x 7 as a reference point. This is boras though. Look what he’s trying to get Jbj. I expect that contract won’t be 30 x 7 but more like 35 x 8. Givin how bloom operates- that isn’t a contract Red Sox will sign. And I am betting this plays out exactly like betts did, with Red Sox trading Xander possibly at the end of next year.
Devers will be the franchise face I believe
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Post by chrisfromnc on Feb 20, 2021 5:45:28 GMT -5
I’m definitely saying Red Sox will draft to fill a hole in their system In a draft RICH with shortstop talent that will probably have a group of players ranked equally at the 4 slot. They won’t reach so much as they will fill a hole with an equal talent at a position of need in system with potential to be a star. UNLESS there is a talent far superior sitting there that they can’t pass up. As for Xander and contract. Sure Red Sox can afford it. I picked 30 x 7 as a reference point. This is boras though. Look what he’s trying to get Jbj. I expect that contract won’t be 30 x 7 but more like 35 x 8. Givin how bloom operates- that isn’t a contract Red Sox will sign. And I am betting this plays out exactly like betts did, with Red Sox trading Xander possibly at the end of next year. Devers will be the franchise face I believe I doubt anyone has a good idea yet of how CB “operates” as the head of baseball operations for the Red Sox. He’s had that job for a year, but it was the most dysfunctional year in Major League Baseball history, including years when there was World War II. He wasn’t the top guy in Tampa, and even if he was, the difference in the spending of the two franchises makes a comparison difficult. it’s been said a lot, nobody should expect he’s going to run the Sox like the Rays. He’s got financial resources that weren’t available in Tampa. I realize this is a minor point in your post about drafting a shortstop, but I just had to disagree with this premise. On your major point, it’s kind of a given that they will draft the best player available regardless of position.
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Post by incandenza on Feb 20, 2021 9:33:28 GMT -5
I’m definitely saying Red Sox will draft to fill a hole in their system In a draft RICH with shortstop talent that will probably have a group of players ranked equally at the 4 slot. They won’t reach so much as they will fill a hole with an equal talent at a position of need in system with potential to be a star. UNLESS there is a talent far superior sitting there that they can’t pass up. As for Xander and contract. Sure Red Sox can afford it. I picked 30 x 7 as a reference point. This is boras though. Look what he’s trying to get Jbj. I expect that contract won’t be 30 x 7 but more like 35 x 8. Givin how bloom operates- that isn’t a contract Red Sox will sign. And I am betting this plays out exactly like betts did, with Red Sox trading Xander possibly at the end of next year. Devers will be the franchise face I believe I doubt anyone has a good idea yet of how CB “operates” as the head of baseball operations for the Red Sox. He’s had that job for a year, but it was the most dysfunctional year in Major League Baseball history, including years when there was World War II. He wasn’t the top guy in Tampa, and even if he was, the difference in the spending of the two franchises makes a comparison difficult. it’s been said a lot, nobody should expect he’s going to run the Sox like the Rays. He’s got financial resources that weren’t available in Tampa. I realize this is a minor point in your post about drafting a shortstop, but I just had to disagree with this premise. On your major point, it’s kind of a given that they will draft the best player available regardless of position. Yep. Even just based on what we've already seen, "the way Bloom operates" is that he spends right up to the CBT limit. I expect that to continue to be the case going forward. (But also Bogaerts is not going to get close to $30 million/year.)
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Post by dyoungteach on Feb 20, 2021 11:29:26 GMT -5
A lot will depend on next years free agent class AND how Xander does this year. When George springer makes $24 million and plenty of other players make $30 million I absolutely can see Xander getting $30 million. Especially with boras as an agent. Machado, Bauer, and altuve are making $30 million or over. To think boras won’t use 2 of those 3 as data points to say Xander is equal to them playing shortstop...?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 20, 2021 11:36:11 GMT -5
I want the best player available with our first pick. Let's also not forget Xander signed his current contract against his agents wishes. He wasn't after top dollar, he wanted a fair contract to stay with the Red Sox. A smart GM can make that work. If all of a sudden he wants the biggest deal he can get, well he might be gone. Yet let's remember he wasn't close to acting like Betts.
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Post by manfred on Feb 20, 2021 12:12:26 GMT -5
I want the best player available with our first pick. Let's also not forget Xander signed his current contract against his agents wishes. He wasn't after top dollar, he wanted a fair contract to stay with the Red Sox. A smart GM can make that work. If all of a sudden he wants the biggest deal he can get, well he might be gone. Yet let's remember he wasn't close to acting like Betts. 🙄 Again... how was that? Look, if they let Xander go, I think it is entirely fair to ask what any of this is about. They’ve lengthened the system but there is really only one guy within spitting distance of Fenway who appears to have a legit shot at being a star. So what is the point of an extended purge of the best group of young stars since at least the 1970s to, what, make room for Hudson Potts? Or to have to sign someone *else’s* stars for big money? If this team had a system with future stars kicking at the door it would be one thing. But they purged the OF with *no one* in the wings who could obviously step in (maybe Duran by mid-season?). Now purge SS? For what? That leaves Devers, who I love, don’t get me wrong, but of Mookie, X, and Devers... all three superstar potential (or realization), he is by far the least safe bet. When did the Sox become a team that might not keep any but one of their home grown stars? In short, keeping X is not just a financial move. It is a PR move. If the Sox have potentially their strongest cluster of home grown talent ever and can’t keep any or just one in a Sox uniform... because John Henry is economizing!.... they deserve another curse. Add: What year should they have parted ways with Yaz? Ted Williams? Papi?
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Post by incandenza on Feb 20, 2021 12:33:15 GMT -5
A lot will depend on next years free agent class AND how Xander does this year. When George springer makes $24 million and plenty of other players make $30 million I absolutely can see Xander getting $30 million. Especially with boras as an agent. Machado, Bauer, and altuve are making $30 million or over. To think boras won’t use 2 of those 3 as data points to say Xander is equal to them playing shortstop...? If Bogaerts signed a 3-year deal like Bauer I'm sure he could get $30 million/year. Altuve makes $23 million/year and that contract started when he was 28. Machado's been more valuable than Bogaerts and his contract started when he was 26. Bogaerts will be 30 when he has the opt out. Springer (31) is probably a pretty good comp, and he makes $25 million/year.
All of your examples provide pretty good evidence that Bogaerts won't get close to $30 million/year.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 20, 2021 16:24:44 GMT -5
I want the best player available with our first pick. Let's also not forget Xander signed his current contract against his agents wishes. He wasn't after top dollar, he wanted a fair contract to stay with the Red Sox. A smart GM can make that work. If all of a sudden he wants the biggest deal he can get, well he might be gone. Yet let's remember he wasn't close to acting like Betts. 🙄 Again... how was that? Look, if they let Xander go, I think it is entirely fair to ask what any of this is about. They’ve lengthened the system but there is really only one guy within spitting distance of Fenway who appears to have a legit shot at being a star. So what is the point of an extended purge of the best group of young stars since at least the 1970s to, what, make room for Hudson Potts? Or to have to sign someone *else’s* stars for big money? If this team had a system with future stars kicking at the door it would be one thing. But they purged the OF with *no one* in the wings who could obviously step in (maybe Duran by mid-season?). Now purge SS? For what? That leaves Devers, who I love, don’t get me wrong, but of Mookie, X, and Devers... all three superstar potential (or realization), he is by far the least safe bet. When did the Sox become a team that might not keep any but one of their home grown stars? In short, keeping X is not just a financial move. It is a PR move. If the Sox have potentially their strongest cluster of home grown talent ever and can’t keep any or just one in a Sox uniform... because John Henry is economizing!.... they deserve another curse. Add: What year should they have parted ways with Yaz? Ted Williams? Papi? They didn't purge the OF, they didn't want to give Betts a crazy long deal. They didn't want to give Bradley a crazy deal, which no other team is giving him either BTW. You can't keep everyone, that's just the Economics of Baseball when you build super teams. If I had to guess I think Bogaerts stays, he clearly wanted to be in Boston. Yet if he opts out and wants some 7-8 years deal at 30 million he's likely gone. Why? The team won't think he's worth that much and you can't have a roster full of aging stars making big money. You have to build teams with future payrolls in mind, how players will age and find the right mix. You seem to be overlooking this. Like a team should just pay it's star players whatever it takes. Do that and you'll end up with an aging roster, no money to spend and no way to fix things. Have you ever taken the time to see where some of our elite guys were once ranked? Bogaerts was an outlier because he was our #1 guy for years. Yet many more like Betts and Dever's weren't top 100 guys early on. I'd say our system has more than one guy who could be a future star.
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Post by manfred on Feb 20, 2021 16:36:44 GMT -5
🙄 Again... how was that? Look, if they let Xander go, I think it is entirely fair to ask what any of this is about. They’ve lengthened the system but there is really only one guy within spitting distance of Fenway who appears to have a legit shot at being a star. So what is the point of an extended purge of the best group of young stars since at least the 1970s to, what, make room for Hudson Potts? Or to have to sign someone *else’s* stars for big money? If this team had a system with future stars kicking at the door it would be one thing. But they purged the OF with *no one* in the wings who could obviously step in (maybe Duran by mid-season?). Now purge SS? For what? That leaves Devers, who I love, don’t get me wrong, but of Mookie, X, and Devers... all three superstar potential (or realization), he is by far the least safe bet. When did the Sox become a team that might not keep any but one of their home grown stars? In short, keeping X is not just a financial move. It is a PR move. If the Sox have potentially their strongest cluster of home grown talent ever and can’t keep any or just one in a Sox uniform... because John Henry is economizing!.... they deserve another curse. Add: What year should they have parted ways with Yaz? Ted Williams? Papi? They didn't purge the OF, they didn't want to give Betts a crazy long deal. They didn't want to give Bradley a crazy deal, which no other team is giving him either BTW. You can't keep everyone, that's just the Economics of Baseball when you build super teams. If I had to guess I think Bogaerts stays, he clearly wanted to be in Boston. Yet if he opts out and wants some 7-8 years deal at 30 million he's likely gone. Why? The team won't think he's worth that much and you can't have a roster full of aging stars making big money. You have to build teams with future payrolls in mind, how players will age and find the right mix. You seem to be overlooking this. Like a team should just pay it's star players whatever it takes. Do that and you'll end up with an aging roster, no money to spend and no way to fix things. Have you ever taken the time to see where some of our elite guys were once ranked? Bogaerts was an outlier because he was our #1 guy for years. Yet many more like Betts and Dever's weren't top 100 guys early on. I'd say our system has more than one guy who could be a future star. First, I said spitting distance... so I’m not counting guys who aren’t solidly in AA. Who knows? But the Devers/Mookie point is silly. They weren’t top-100 early and then... boom. Mookie’s first full season, age 20... 15 HRs, 38 SBs, 81/57 BB/K and slashed .314/.417/.506. The only reason he was never a top-3 prospect was he was up too soon (age 21). Devers was in Boston by 20, with an OPS of .819. So... not a comparison I’d want even Casas to have to live up to (since, by their measure, he’s late!).
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 20, 2021 16:51:26 GMT -5
They didn't purge the OF, they didn't want to give Betts a crazy long deal. They didn't want to give Bradley a crazy deal, which no other team is giving him either BTW. You can't keep everyone, that's just the Economics of Baseball when you build super teams. If I had to guess I think Bogaerts stays, he clearly wanted to be in Boston. Yet if he opts out and wants some 7-8 years deal at 30 million he's likely gone. Why? The team won't think he's worth that much and you can't have a roster full of aging stars making big money. You have to build teams with future payrolls in mind, how players will age and find the right mix. You seem to be overlooking this. Like a team should just pay it's star players whatever it takes. Do that and you'll end up with an aging roster, no money to spend and no way to fix things. Have you ever taken the time to see where some of our elite guys were once ranked? Bogaerts was an outlier because he was our #1 guy for years. Yet many more like Betts and Dever's weren't top 100 guys early on. I'd say our system has more than one guy who could be a future star. First, I said spitting distance... so I’m not counting guys who aren’t solidly in AA. Who knows? But the Devers/Mookie point is silly. They weren’t top-100 early and then... boom. Mookie’s first full season, age 20... 15 HRs, 38 SBs, 81/57 BB/K and slashed .314/.417/.506. The only reason he was never a top-3 prospect was he was up too soon (age 21). Devers was in Boston by 20, with an OPS of .819. So... not a comparison I’d want even Casas to have to live up to (since, by their measure, he’s late!). That's my point, if you are only looking at AA and up guys, you'd be overlooking those guys. Wanna hope on the next one of them? Look at the young international guys and guys taken straight from High School.
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Post by manfred on Feb 20, 2021 17:03:52 GMT -5
First, I said spitting distance... so I’m not counting guys who aren’t solidly in AA. Who knows? But the Devers/Mookie point is silly. They weren’t top-100 early and then... boom. Mookie’s first full season, age 20... 15 HRs, 38 SBs, 81/57 BB/K and slashed .314/.417/.506. The only reason he was never a top-3 prospect was he was up too soon (age 21). Devers was in Boston by 20, with an OPS of .819. So... not a comparison I’d want even Casas to have to live up to (since, by their measure, he’s late!). That's my point, if you are only looking at AA and up guys, you'd be overlooking those guys. Wanna hope on the next one of them? Look at the young international guys and guys taken straight from High School. Which would you pick to be in Fenway by age 20/21? You are arguing a totally separate matter. Go back to the start. I said what is the point of creating financial room if it means letting almost all your stars go when no one is *immediately* lined up to replace them. Well... we are part way in, and no one has been immediately in line. The issue at hand is Xander. If he opts out... do they use the savings from losing Mookie, JBJ, Beni to keep him? Or do they decide to save yet again? If the latter... why? Because... drum roll: they do NOT have a replacement on the horizon. So even if you think Bonaci is the next star, you are still looking at gap time. Which means either spending a lot on someone ELSE’S home grown guy or — again — getting a step-back replacement. How many cost saving moves can we endure?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 20, 2021 17:37:49 GMT -5
That's my point, if you are only looking at AA and up guys, you'd be overlooking those guys. Wanna hope on the next one of them? Look at the young international guys and guys taken straight from High School. Which would you pick to be in Fenway by age 20/21? You are arguing a totally separate matter. Go back to the start. I said what is the point of creating financial room if it means letting almost all your stars go when no one is *immediately* lined up to replace them. Well... we are part way in, and no one has been immediately in line. The issue at hand is Xander. If he opts out... do they use the savings from losing Mookie, JBJ, Beni to keep him? Or do they decide to save yet again? If the latter... why? Because... drum roll: they do NOT have a replacement on the horizon. So even if you think Bonaci is the next star, you are still looking at gap time. Which means either spending a lot on someone ELSE’S home grown guy or — again — getting a step-back replacement. How many cost saving moves can we endure? Best chance? Nick Yorke. Again it's not saving money, yet planning future payrolls and what you value guys at. They made Betts big offers, he wanted more, so they moved on. They didn't just move on to cut payroll. Did I miss something or don't we have Bogaerts for two more years? Your talking about a SS in 2023 and I've never bought into the farm system is to replace every player at every position. I'm certainly not taking a SS just to have a guy in case Bogaerts leaves. I'm taking the best player available. You literally can't have this conversation till the end of 2022 when you know who will be available and what Xander's plans are. You did catch I think he stays right?
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