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2021 Spring Training
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 12, 2021 16:01:48 GMT -5
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Post by chr31ter on Feb 12, 2021 17:57:28 GMT -5
Hmmm....
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 12, 2021 20:01:31 GMT -5
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Post by johnsilver52 on Feb 12, 2021 21:40:25 GMT -5
Safe to ask who is headed to the Fort this spring? I'm not. cpl locals.. Sarasoxer? not seen steveinbradenton on the boards for a bit.. You guys going to take in any of the kids this spring? Think going to head down later in the summer for just 1 trip this year.
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Post by controne on Feb 13, 2021 11:23:27 GMT -5
Looks like Pereda is left off the NRI list. Seems odd.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 13, 2021 12:02:05 GMT -5
Looks like Pereda is left off the NRI list. Seems odd. He was announced earlier this offseason and he's not on the list they just put out. Nice catch. My guess is inadvertent omission. I've got an email in to media relations.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 13, 2021 13:11:49 GMT -5
Looks like Pereda is left off the NRI list. Seems odd. He was announced earlier this offseason and he's not on the list they just put out. Nice catch. My guess is inadvertent omission. I've got an email in to media relations. I've held off on giving my thoughts on Twitter for the above reason, but some scattered thoughts on the initial roster: - Nobody I'd really say was a terrible surprise omission. Maybe Jack Lopez given that it'd seem he'd be ticketed for AAA. - Not being included is a really bad sign for Shawaryn and Poyner. With full health, they already are going to have pitchers in camp who'll go to Portland (not counting guys like Groome who are on the 40 but might go lower). To a lesser degree, Matt Kent and Adam Lau are in that group. - Surprise additions for me were Cottam, Politi, and Yorke. Cottam makes more sense when you look at the depth chart, as the number of pitchers in camp needs a certain number of catchers and he's next up after the high-minors guys. Politi over, say, Shawaryn or the rehabbing Crawford says something about how much they like him. Yorke is probably a unique case as last year's first-rounder who still hasn't had a "normal" situation yet. - The only guys in the top 15 not there are Jimenez, Ramirez, Lugo, and Bonaci. The thinking might be that those guys can work out at the DR academy, whereas a guy like Yorke wouldn't be down there. There's a group at the academy working out right now (mostly S&C that I can tell on social media).
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Post by manfred on Feb 13, 2021 13:22:52 GMT -5
He was announced earlier this offseason and he's not on the list they just put out. Nice catch. My guess is inadvertent omission. I've got an email in to media relations. I've held off on giving my thoughts on Twitter for the above reason, but some scattered thoughts on the initial roster: - Nobody I'd really say was a terrible surprise omission. Maybe Jack Lopez given that it'd seem he'd be ticketed for AAA. - Not being included is a really bad sign for Shawaryn and Poyner. With full health, they already are going to have pitchers in camp who'll go to Portland (not counting guys like Groome who are on the 40 but might go lower). To a lesser degree, Matt Kent and Adam Lau are in that group. - Surprise additions for me were Cottam, Politi, and Yorke. Cottam makes more sense when you look at the depth chart, as the number of pitchers in camp needs a certain number of catchers and he's next up after the high-minors guys. Politi over, say, Shawaryn or the rehabbing Crawford says something about how much they like him. Yorke is probably a unique case as last year's first-rounder who still hasn't had a "normal" situation yet. - The only guys in the top 15 not there are Jimenez, Ramirez, Lugo, and Bonaci. The thinking might be that those guys can work out at the DR academy, whereas a guy like Yorke wouldn't be down there. There's a group at the academy working out right now (mostly S&C that I can tell on social media). The Shawaryn thing really stood out to me. On paper, he still seems like a guy who could have value. Decent stuff, some funk, not bad results in a cup of coffee. For me, this definitely falls into the category of they-must-know/feel-something that is harder to glean from numbers available to us. Does he have *any* trade value? I still believe that he could be a useful middle inning option, especially for a second-tier team.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 13, 2021 17:51:50 GMT -5
I've held off on giving my thoughts on Twitter for the above reason, but some scattered thoughts on the initial roster: - Nobody I'd really say was a terrible surprise omission. Maybe Jack Lopez given that it'd seem he'd be ticketed for AAA. - Not being included is a really bad sign for Shawaryn and Poyner. With full health, they already are going to have pitchers in camp who'll go to Portland (not counting guys like Groome who are on the 40 but might go lower). To a lesser degree, Matt Kent and Adam Lau are in that group. - Surprise additions for me were Cottam, Politi, and Yorke. Cottam makes more sense when you look at the depth chart, as the number of pitchers in camp needs a certain number of catchers and he's next up after the high-minors guys. Politi over, say, Shawaryn or the rehabbing Crawford says something about how much they like him. Yorke is probably a unique case as last year's first-rounder who still hasn't had a "normal" situation yet. - The only guys in the top 15 not there are Jimenez, Ramirez, Lugo, and Bonaci. The thinking might be that those guys can work out at the DR academy, whereas a guy like Yorke wouldn't be down there. There's a group at the academy working out right now (mostly S&C that I can tell on social media). The Shawaryn thing really stood out to me. On paper, he still seems like a guy who could have value. Decent stuff, some funk, not bad results in a cup of coffee. For me, this definitely falls into the category of they-must-know/feel-something that is harder to glean from numbers available to us. Does he have *any* trade value? I still believe that he could be a useful middle inning option, especially for a second-tier team. He cleared waivers. Teams could've had him free.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 13, 2021 17:52:38 GMT -5
Looks like Pereda is left off the NRI list. Seems odd. He was announced earlier this offseason and he's not on the list they just put out. Nice catch. My guess is inadvertent omission. I've got an email in to media relations. Confirmed. Visa issue means he might be delayed but he'll be there.
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Post by ericmvan on Feb 14, 2021 3:14:13 GMT -5
He was announced earlier this offseason and he's not on the list they just put out. Nice catch. My guess is inadvertent omission. I've got an email in to media relations. Confirmed. Visa issue means he might be delayed but he'll be there. So they're at 71 now, and if they IL Sale to make room for Sawamura, that's 72, and if Chris Mazza clears waivers, that's 73.
And they still have to clear a spot for Gonzalez, and that would be Walden, who would clear and get invited, so that's 74.
And if they don't sign Moreland or Shaw and clear Brewer through waivers to make an even 75, I'll be very sad.
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Post by costpet on Feb 14, 2021 10:27:51 GMT -5
I'm wondering if the ballplayers are getting priority for getting the vaccine.
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Post by gerry on Feb 14, 2021 13:16:47 GMT -5
I'm wondering if the ballplayers are getting priority for getting the vaccine. Which is why I had hoped good sense would prevail and ST would start at end of March. I got my two Pfizer shots because of age (79), and now those in their sixties are eligible. People with disabilities as a category will begin in mid-March. So good chunks of front line workers, first responders, and essential workers are already vaccinated, as well as seniors. And this process is accelerating. Soon the disabled and those with other underlying conditions will be safer. Baseball? Certainly most older, eligible baseball staff (at every level, including college and high school) like scouts, coaches, FO, grounds crew, ushers, concessions etc. will have been vaccinated, probably independent of baseball, I would be surprised if most teams didn’t guarantee this through team physicians and medical affiliates. So where does that leave players and young staff who will begin playing baseball next week during a mutating and still spreading pandemic? This is the age group (20-39) that continues to spread this virus by living carelessly, often intentionally. Unless strictly mandated and enforced, mask wearing, distancing and hand washing will be as rare as spitting, high fives and chest bumps are common. A scary thought. They are neither seniors nor health workers. Will these healthy kids be considered essential workers? More essential than pharmacy and grocery store personnel, public transportation and restaurant workers? I hope not. Sure baseball could make it work. But as new vaccines roll out, if the season were to begin in May or June, the teams could likely be universally vaccinated and the stands increasingly fuller, and no one would accuse them of cutting in line.
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Post by beasleyrockah on Feb 14, 2021 14:20:55 GMT -5
Which is why I had hoped good sense would prevail and ST would start at end of March. I got my two Pfizer shots because of age (79), and now those in their sixties are eligible. People with disabilities as a category will begin in mid-March. So good chunks of front line workers, first responders, and essential workers are already vaccinated, as well as seniors. And this process is accelerating. Soon the disabled and those with other underlying conditions will be safer. Baseball? Certainly most older, eligible baseball staff (at every level, including college and high school) like scouts, coaches, FO, grounds crew, ushers, concessions etc. will have been vaccinated, probably independent of baseball, I would be surprised if most teams didn’t guarantee this through team physicians and medical affiliates. So where does that leave players and young staff who will begin playing baseball next week during a mutating and still spreading pandemic? This is the age group (20-39) that continues to spread this virus by living carelessly, often intentionally. Unless strictly mandated and enforced, mask wearing, distancing and hand washing will be as rare as spitting, high fives and chest bumps are common. A scary thought. They are neither seniors nor health workers. Will these healthy kids be considered essential workers? More essential than pharmacy and grocery store personnel, public transportation and restaurant workers? I hope not. Sure baseball could make it work. But as new vaccines roll out, if the season were to begin in May or June, the teams could likely be universally vaccinated and the stands increasingly fuller, and no one would accuse them of cutting in line. In my personal experience the most responsible people have been in the age 20-39 group, and the people with the most contempt for social distancing and masks are mostly 50+. Of course many young people don't do the right thing, but many seniors don't as well. By nature, young people have more active social lives and are sacrificing the most during this time by behaving responsibly (more things to do and less personal risk). It'd be nice if future generations eventually stop the cycle of blaming young people for the world's problems. As far as mask mandates go, that's a political decision - and without making it a party issue, who controls the government: young people, or old people? The young politicians aren't the ones standing in the way of a mask mandate fwiw. Moving back to baseball, I don't think the league can afford to lose more momentum by delaying the start of this season. The NFL had some issues this year, but they got through the eye of the storm in terms of COVID relatively successfully, despite much bigger rosters. The infection rates will be lower and they can do as much testing as they need. If the MLB delayed the season it'd be a bad look considering the other three leagues have figured out a way to play through a more challenging time.
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Post by fdrnewdeal on Feb 14, 2021 21:02:36 GMT -5
I too was surprised with Yorke, being listed. Excited. Still, surprised.
Granting that nothing about the past 12 months have been normal, but how usual would it be for a team to draft a relatively young high schooler, have him not play in any games (I know, I know) and get an invite to Spring Training the first Spring?
Does this indicate that really liked what they saw out of him in Instrux and the Alternate Site? Or am I reading too into this?
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Post by sarasoxer on Feb 14, 2021 23:25:57 GMT -5
Safe to ask who is headed to the Fort this spring? I'm not. cpl locals.. Sarasoxer? not seen steveinbradenton on the boards for a bit.. You guys going to take in any of the kids this spring? Think going to head down later in the summer for just 1 trip this year. Big man, thanks for the acknowledgement...Until I get my shot(s), I won't make plans for game/practice attendance. I do communicate with SteveofBradenton (a real good guy and astute/ardent fan) but the subject has not come up. I suspect that we are in the same 'rolled up sleeves' boat. Hopefully the GCL will operate this year and Steve and I will cast a watchful eye...always so much fun. We all need to hook up some day.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 15, 2021 19:48:14 GMT -5
Keep in mind the backfields will NOT be open this year, guys. Wouldn't want to see you drive over for nothing.
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Post by Addam603 on Feb 17, 2021 10:17:12 GMT -5
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Post by blizzards39 on Feb 18, 2021 23:18:13 GMT -5
As today is the official start with pitchers and catchers reporting, I think we need a general thread for spring training. I just got home from the fort and not sure if I’ll be able to get back down there but I’d love for anybody to share pictures and stories. Does anybody know if there letting people into practices yet? I know games they are selling about 2400 tickets
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Feb 19, 2021 1:09:31 GMT -5
I don't care for Manfred.........the commissioner, not the soxprospects member But... are they different people? (they are). Wait. I thought you were Mookie. Which is why I try not to disagree with you
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Post by manfred on Feb 19, 2021 1:12:29 GMT -5
But... are they different people? (they are). Wait. I thought you were Mookie. Which is why I try not to disagree with you Could be. (I would have signed)
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 21, 2021 12:02:05 GMT -5
Make sure he does not punch any walls.
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Post by incandenza on Feb 25, 2021 10:26:33 GMT -5
So, the Yorke story doesn’t really qualify as “reported in the best shape of his career” does it? Still waiting .....
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Post by rminns10 on Feb 26, 2021 8:38:18 GMT -5
Watched the show on NESN last night showing the team in practice, quick question: Does JD Martinez look a little heavy? I was kinda shocked at his stomach was sticking out so far. Maybe this is how he always looked and its hidden by the full uniform jersey but was wondering if anyone else noticed?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 26, 2021 9:32:33 GMT -5
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