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Post by tizzle on May 15, 2021 16:31:51 GMT -5
LOL. Kase hurt again already. Feel awful for the guy. Doesnt *seem* like another concussion from what they said but I don’t see how it wasn’t. He took a decent open ice hit and popped back up but it wouldn’t shock me if that did it It’s a damn shame because when he was going good in Anaheim he was a hell of a player, very underrated I also have Bruins in 6. Washington is begging to implode with the injuries/covid/kuznetsov drama and a microscope on Wilson The reason we were able to get a guy like him, and ditch Backes' contract, for a 1st was because he had trouble staying healthy. I had high hopes for him this year, but at this point it seems like it's gonna be time to give up on him. This feels like our seriers to lose, but those kinds of matchups always make me nervous. Go B's!
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Post by cdj on May 15, 2021 18:06:12 GMT -5
Feel awful for the guy. Doesnt *seem* like another concussion from what they said but I don’t see how it wasn’t. He took a decent open ice hit and popped back up but it wouldn’t shock me if that did it It’s a damn shame because when he was going good in Anaheim he was a hell of a player, very underrated I also have Bruins in 6. Washington is begging to implode with the injuries/covid/kuznetsov drama and a microscope on Wilson The reason we were able to get a guy like him, and ditch Backes' contract, for a 1st was because he had trouble staying healthy. I had high hopes for him this year, but at this point it seems like it's gonna be time to give up on him. This feels like our sergers to lose, but those kinds of matchups always make me nervous. Go B's! As sad as it is if it truly is another concussion then he needs to think about giving up on his career himself. He’s taken a brutal amount of brain trauma for such a young guy
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Post by homerdante on May 15, 2021 19:45:38 GMT -5
Lauzon tips in goal #2. woohoo This guy is in over his head.
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Post by tizzle on May 15, 2021 19:53:02 GMT -5
Lauzon tips in goal #2. woohoo This guy is in over his head. LMAO.
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Post by homerdante on May 15, 2021 21:27:52 GMT -5
and Rask knocked in the third, drops down, knocks it in with his own pad. Good clean play from a sharp team.
Wake up boys, you can outplay this caps team. when you first got Hall, etc. after the trade deadline, you smoked 'em.
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Post by cdj on May 15, 2021 21:45:35 GMT -5
Wait you think Lauzon had a bad game tonight? He’s jostling with a 235 lb guy in front of the net and you think a shot that goes off him is his fault and that he’s over his head?
Do you actually watch hockey? Nothing worse than a transparent agenda not grounded in reality
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Post by tizzle on May 15, 2021 21:52:08 GMT -5
Wait you think Lauzon had a bad game tonight? He’s jostling with a 235 lb guy in front of the net and you think a shot that goes off him is his fault and that he’s over his head? Do you actually watch hockey? Nothing worse than a transparent agenda not grounded in reality Yeah, I was going to say all that, but "LMAO" seemed sufficient.
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Post by homerdante on May 16, 2021 2:55:34 GMT -5
Sorted for Giveaways on the team: Rk Player Age Pos GP CF CA CF% CF% rel FF FA FF% FF% rel oiSH% oiSV% PDO oZS% dZS% TOI/60 TOI(EV) TK GV ▼ E+/- SAtt. Thru% 1 Charlie McAvoy 23 D 51 1034 733 58.5 5.9 823 555 59.7 6.3 9.9 89.9 99.8 54.4 45.6 23:60 19:36 20 44 6.0 189 48.7 2 Brad Marchand 32 LW 53 802 515 60.9 9.0 646 400 61.8 8.9 10.9 89.0 99.9 58.2 41.8 18:55 14:04 42 36 5.3 228 62.7 3 David Pastrnak 24 RW 48 771 507 60.3 8.1 630 390 61.8 8.6 10.0 89.0 99.0 60.2 39.8 18:37 15:05 25 31 3.8 334 52.7 4 David Krejci 34 C 51 738 549 57.3 3.8 565 421 57.3 2.5 8.3 95.1 103.4 65.6 34.4 17:08 14:33 21 28 3.6 141 58.9 5 Jeremy Lauzon 23 D 41 547 518 51.4 -5.9 430 392 52.3 -5.8 8.2 91.4 99.6 46.3 53.7 18:43 15:33 7 20 0.1 98 49.0
I do watch basically every single game, yes.
Lauzon makes bone headed plays. ok, it's only his 3rd year getting games in the nhl, but in fewer games than the rest in the top 5 for Giveaways on the team, he's there in the top 5 with 20 giveaways to only 7 takeaways.
What has gotten my attention is not that I look for him on the ice, but rather, the game is flowing along well, and all of a sudden, there is a really crap play, and I look to see who it is, or wait for the announcer to get around to revealing who made that terrible play, and many times, it's Lauzon. Of course, this year it's also frequently Pastrnak too. For some reason he's seriously out of sync this year. Doesn't mean he's still not a great shooter, but his passing is off badly this year in general, and sometimes he loses focus and the puck goes over or under his stick, or off his skate and he loses it, or any number of other horrible outcomes that last year happened to him far less. Lauzon has been such a flow killer for this team this year, it's extremely annoying, yes. Multiple games the dude had multiple penalties. He really does seem to be confused out there a lot, and make the wrong play, or end up in the penalty box.
Last night he had 2 giveaways, leading the team. He also saw almost no time on ice for special teams, which is a big downgrade from the season. I hope that trend continues.
I don't see massive upside with this guy in any dimension of his game. feel free to send all the lmaos and and believe he had a good game if you like, but his play and stats don't back it up imho.
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Post by cdj on May 16, 2021 9:04:01 GMT -5
Yeah he’s such a sieve the other team doesn’t score when he’s on the ice (tied with McAvoy for the best GA/60 on the bruins among D and the 2nd best on the team) and he’s an elite PKer. Good call
I’m sorry it’s hard for us to take you seriously when you blame him for that goal last night. Anybody who has watched a second of hockey know that’s an incredibly dumb take and that’s why you got laughed at. It reeks of an agenda and it immediately makes us want to disqualify anything you say when it comes to hockey
He was one of the only players to show anything last night and he was the only guy you complained about.
Also you realize he didn’t get ST time because they took 2 PIM last night and he was the one that took them, right? When he was the only person to show any semblance of a spine against Ovi and ultimately made him stop taking runs (Ovie also should have been penalized on the play but alas he’s one of the NHL’s golden gods). I mean cmon you can’t even use your critical thinking skills when bashing him and it’s sad. You’re honestly hoping that one of the best PKers on an elite unit will not get PK time anymore. You either have no clue what you are talking about or are actively rooting against the Bruins
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Post by homerdante on May 16, 2021 11:48:13 GMT -5
the GA/60 doesn't look like skill to me, looks like some babip style luck. Who he's played with, or the lines he's played against. I believe it with McAvoy, he's out there against the best. Lauzon looks more like the guy who got to play in all the Sabres games against their 3rd and 4th lines.
He was on the ice for two of the three goals against last night. Was the game winner in OT his fault? After he hit the lead guy in the back--as he seems to do programmatically--then he was sitting in his space to the left of Rask, watching it go in. Now granted, we've seen the best of the best playoff defensemen actually drift back behind the goalie there and save some of those, but can you EXPECT that of someone so inexperienced? I wouldn't say so. I would instead nitpick on Rask there--he completely lost track of the puck and hit it in himself on a puck that was going directly downward off his chest, Rask put it in with his leg pads trying to reposition them to squeeze, he knocks it back and in. I'm strongly in the play Swayman camp. I think it's time to move on and rely on someone with faster twitch skills in that position at this point when Swayman's positioning has been demonstrably fine, and his focus has been great this year so far. Ride the hot hand. I think Rask has been borderline mailing it in now for a couple years with only a couple stretches where he wasn't distracted and was really focused, not just an excellent positional goalie. There was zero motion in his glove hand on the first goal. Rask looks reaction slow to me. Positionally sound, but otherwise cooked at times.
The issue I have with the 2nd goal is that sure, Lauzon's battling Ovi, (who I have a great deal of dislike for as well, and don't understand why the players conduct committee farce doesn't sanction him at all--which for me feeds into Wilson's behavior and feeling he can get away with what he does, because Ovi does) and the battle with Ovi takes up 100% of his attention. There's no awareness on his part, his stick is literally just incidentally stuck to him, swinging around. From better defensemen, I see more awareness in sticks down on the ice, sticks in passing lanes, etc. Even when they're tussling, they can shoulder someone, body up on someone, and still have some presence of mind. I'm not saying that's a 100% thing, but with Lauzon I see someone who plays more like what we expected Tinordi to play like. Unconscious thug like, and I think he can be better than that. I see him on offense with some accuracy on a wrister to hit the deflector in front with some consistency. I know he has it in him. He just goes unconscious on D a lot.
for the ST time, I was looking at the game log quickly and I thought they credited him with 7 seconds of time or something, I must have misread that, apologies. I do remember him in the box, so obviously you're right since they had the one penalty.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on May 16, 2021 11:56:28 GMT -5
Yeah he’s such a sieve the other team doesn’t score when he’s on the ice (tied with McAvoy for the best GA/60 on the bruins among D and the 2nd best on the team) and he’s an elite PKer. Good call I’m sorry it’s hard for us to take you seriously when you blame him for that goal last night. Anybody who has watched a second of hockey know that’s an incredibly dumb take and that’s why you got laughed at. It reeks of an agenda and it immediately makes us want to disqualify anything you say when it comes to hockey He was one of the only players to show anything last night and he was the only guy you complained about. Also you realize he didn’t get ST time because they took 2 PIM last night and he was the one that took them, right? When he was the only person to show any semblance of a spine against Ovi and ultimately made him stop taking runs (Ovie also should have been penalized on the play but alas he’s one of the NHL’s golden gods). I mean cmon you can’t even use your critical thinking skills when bashing him and it’s sad. You’re honestly hoping that one of the best PKers on an elite unit will not get PK time anymore. You either have no clue what you are talking about or are actively rooting against the Bruins Certainly can't blame him for being the second person to tip the puck on that shot, however he does appear to be the weak link out there often enough.
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Post by cdj on May 16, 2021 11:57:53 GMT -5
I just don’t see what you’re seeing, and I’ve seen A LOT of feedback about that game from bruins fans online and you’re pretty much the only person harping on him
You apparently think he should be Chris Pronger or something. He’s a #5 defenseman who handled a lot of heavy lifting last night against Washington’s top line and did well enough.
I suggest instead of looking at Rask (who I thought was solid but unspectacular last night) or the #5 defenseman we take a look at the top line no-showing, which they’ve been doing 5 on 5 in the playoffs for quite some time now. They’ll never win anything if that continues
Is it really Lauzon or Rask’s fault they can’t beat a cold geriatric goalie? Because that was the actual problem last night
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Post by cdj on May 16, 2021 15:56:53 GMT -5
Didn’t even know about this tweet. It’s a little jarring but if you want to know why they’re not as successful as they could be then look no further
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Post by tizzle on May 16, 2021 16:36:01 GMT -5
There just seemed like there was no offensive rhythm at all last night. It was kind of amazing they were so close to winning the game after how bad they looked and the terrible luck of the McAvoy broken stick. They need to get it together quick.
One last time on the Lauzon thing- there's stuff there to criticize, though he's the only D man who's hitting anybody these days. If you had problems with his penalty (I don't really) or his late coulda/shoulda been penalty (which was unnecessary, imo) or whatever, that would be one thing. But to suggest he doesn't belong on the ice because he was jostling with a dangerous goal scorer and the puck went in off his stick, then you don't deserve to be taken seriously. At all.
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Post by dangermike on May 16, 2021 19:10:22 GMT -5
bruins win huge tomorrow night and the cup run begins. on tuesday, we wont even think about a lucky game one taken by a team we saw 6,000 times this season.
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Post by tizzle on May 17, 2021 16:28:21 GMT -5
Well, it won't be Lauzon's fault if we lose tonight. I think Clifton is a better player at this stage, but two RH shots together is a little awkward. And, since Washignton's game plan was clearly to flood the front of the net with bodies, losing the most physical D-man probably doesn't help as much as some people think.
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Post by homerdante on May 17, 2021 17:16:18 GMT -5
Well, it won't be Lauzon's fault if we lose tonight. I think Clifton is a better player at this stage, but two RH shots together is a little awkward. And, since Washignton's game plan was clearly to flood the front of the net with bodies, losing the most physical D-man probably doesn't help as much as some people think. Clifton's insane number of penalties in the regular seasons scares me too...I hope he can find the line, or have the team tell him where the line is, and not cross it to feed the Caps too many PPs. Of course, some of those games when he was heavily penalized were those games when it felt like the refereeing was horrible and inconsistent on standard of conduct. I recognize I'm hard on Lauzon, but incidentally, has anyone seen Charlie Coyle recently? You can barely tell he's on the ice. Certainly he's not making himself known all that well. Is he another one of these hurt guys under the radar we're going to hear has 5 surgeries in the off season? Or is this who he is and why Minn. let him go?
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Post by tizzle on May 17, 2021 18:03:42 GMT -5
Honestly, at this point, Coyle's contract would be on the short list of contracts I'd like to make go away if I had a magic wand. It's a lot of money for a lot of years, untraceable and he's not producing at all. It'd awesome to have that money to spend elsewhere.
Maybe he'll rebound next year.
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Post by tizzle on May 17, 2021 18:49:29 GMT -5
LOL. And Coyle with a terrible defensive play, bailed out by Rask, followed by a great play to set up a goal.
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Post by tizzle on May 17, 2021 18:58:57 GMT -5
LMAO. I swear I was just abut to bitch about Pastrnak to try another reverse-jinx.
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Post by cdj on May 17, 2021 19:29:55 GMT -5
Would be nice if they could clear out the front of the net one damn time
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Post by homerdante on May 17, 2021 19:36:17 GMT -5
LOL. And Coyle with a terrible defensive play, bailed out by Rask, followed by a great play to set up a goal. That Coyle offensive play might have been the best I've seen from him in a Bruins sweater. Rask though tonight....man. I know, i know, the bodies are in front of him, but he didn't even have his stick covering his 5 hole on that 2nd goal. Wow that was frustrating. Clearly Bergeron doesn't miss that many faceoffs in the D end, but you gotta be ready. Team feels better tonight though overall on offense. More motion, more effort. At least through one period.
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Post by tizzle on May 17, 2021 19:38:36 GMT -5
Would be nice if they could clear out the front of the net one damn time The physicality of the first game and the need to clear the crease is why I thought Tinordi might play tonight instead of Clifton.
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Post by homerdante on May 17, 2021 19:50:40 GMT -5
We REALLY need to get our PP rolling again. Let's see if we can get one here!
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Post by homerdante on May 17, 2021 20:02:57 GMT -5
What is this thing with Pasta falling in love with the spinorama backhand passes lately? Anyone else notice that? It's usually way off the mark too, but it's like some new thing he's in love with lately or something.
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