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Post by cdj on Feb 10, 2021 21:45:47 GMT -5
Complaining about the return before the return is even announced, par for the course
Have more of an agenda, you can’t
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Post by incandenza on Feb 10, 2021 21:46:36 GMT -5
Ignoring the return for Benintendi (since we don't know it yet), and supposing this lets them sign JBJ... has this move made the major league team better? A Verdugo, JBJ, Renfroe/Cordero/Kiké outfield, with Duran knocking on the door... I don't think it's any *worse* at least. !!! Is it worse than it was 2 years ago? Is it forward thinking? It’s a hosge-podge. Basically, the next great Sox team needs another OF overhaul. Great. And this is different from two hours ago... how? If they're keeping JBJ instead of Benintendi, that's not any worse by your keep-all-the-Sox'-own-guys-forever standard. Meanwhile they're adding... whatever it is they're adding. Probably not a whole lot, but Bloom just keeps adding pebbles to the pile which is the way to build back the depth the organization needs.
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Post by greenmonster on Feb 10, 2021 21:47:34 GMT -5
I will believe it when Hazel Mae reports it
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Post by Addam603 on Feb 10, 2021 21:47:45 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Feb 10, 2021 21:48:11 GMT -5
!!! Is it worse than it was 2 years ago? Is it forward thinking? It’s a hosge-podge. Basically, the next great Sox team needs another OF overhaul. Great. Obviously it's worse than it was two years ago. We get it your not over the mookie deal. Oh, no. I’m thrilled turn our WS outfield into a platoon and whatever Cordero is. 6 dimensional chess. |
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Post by cdj on Feb 10, 2021 21:48:49 GMT -5
Super small sample last year but Cordero slashed his K rate big time When he makes contact he impacts the ball....he’s just gotta make contact. Hopefully they end up bringing back JBJ. I feel validated with my post now |
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 10, 2021 21:51:58 GMT -5
Obviously it's worse than it was two years ago. We get it your not over the mookie deal. Oh, no. I’m thrilled turn our WS outfield into a platoon and whatever Cordero is. 6 dimensional chess. I'm not very thrilled either but your adding absolutely nothing by complaining that the Sox outfield is worse than it was when it won the series. No matter what it was going to be. |
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Post by manfred on Feb 10, 2021 21:52:12 GMT -5
Super small sample last year but Cordero slashed his K rate big time When he makes contact he impacts the ball....he’s just gotta make contact. Hopefully they end up bringing back JBJ. I feel validated with my post now In 38 ABs he cut his Ks. And he slashed .211/.286/.447. In the previous year, 15 ABs, 7 ks. Dude will be 27 this year. Isn’t like he has a ton if time not to suck anymore. |
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Post by levi on Feb 10, 2021 21:52:57 GMT -5
I guess the other pieces in the deal would come from the Mets. Maybe some combination of Valdez / Santos / Newton?
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Post by soxfan06 on Feb 10, 2021 21:53:46 GMT -5
Complaining about the return before the return is even announced, par for the course Have more of an agenda, you can’t They don't usually report the minor parts of the deal first.......... |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Feb 10, 2021 21:53:50 GMT -5
Complaining about the return before the return is even announced, par for the course Have more of an agenda, you can’t Return? This is a salary dump. Doesn't make any sense for a rebuilding team to sell on Benintendi when his value is at an all-time low and the roster is pretty much already filled out. |
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Post by chowda on Feb 10, 2021 21:54:44 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Feb 10, 2021 21:55:15 GMT -5
I feel validated with my post now In 38 ABs he cut his Ks. And he slashed .211/.286/.447. In the previous year, 15 ABs, 7 ks. Dude will be 27 this year. Isn’t like he has a ton if time not to suck anymore. Beats the hell out of a .103/.314/.128 with 17 k’s in 39 AB and a readily apparent decline in physical tools.... |
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Feb 10, 2021 21:55:32 GMT -5
Complaining about the return before the return is even announced, par for the course Have more of an agenda, you can’t Return? This is a salary dump. Doesn't make any sense for a rebuilding team to sell on Benintendi when his value is at an all-time low and the roster is pretty much already filled out. Its a salary dump of a talented player who struggled in a SSS last year. I guess JBJ is going to get paid by the Sox. Unless of course the OF will be Renfroe Cordero and Verdugo which might be one of the worst in baseball. |
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Post by cdj on Feb 10, 2021 21:55:49 GMT -5
Complaining about the return before the return is even announced, par for the course Have more of an agenda, you can’t Return? This is a salary dump. Doesn't make any sense for a rebuilding team to sell on Benintendi when his value is at an all-time low and the roster is pretty much already filled out. Lol again, the return hasn’t been announced and you’re criticizing it Stop being absurd guys. Also it makes sense if they don’t think he can bounce back. Which they probably have the most inside info on.... |
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Post by bluechip on Feb 10, 2021 21:56:14 GMT -5
Very disappointing outcome.
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Post by manfred on Feb 10, 2021 21:56:23 GMT -5
Oh, no. I’m thrilled turn our WS outfield into a platoon and whatever Cordero is. 6 dimensional chess. I'm not very thrilled either but your adding absolutely nothing by complaining that the Sox outfield is worse than it was when it won the series. No matter what it was going to be. It isn’t like that was 7 years ago. You are right. I will be loyal first and foremost to the new GM, and I will reserve judgment as he tears down homegrown guys and adds thrilling part time guys, reclamation projects etc. What does seal-clapping add? |
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Post by kevfc89 on Feb 10, 2021 21:56:32 GMT -5
I will say, Franchy's huge potential based on his tools has always been known and dreamed on (Fangraphs has written several pieces on him). A big if, but if he fulfills some of that then the reward could be big.
Much lower floor than Benny, but I want to say a higher ceiling at this point, especially with some of Benny's declining metrics.
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Post by Ryanod1 on Feb 10, 2021 21:58:22 GMT -5
Super small sample last year but Cordero slashed his K rate big time When he makes contact he impacts the ball....he’s just gotta make contact. Hopefully they end up bringing back JBJ. I feel validated with my post now The first homerun made me laugh because of the announcer. There was zero emotion put into it. You would think the guys wife left him or something haha. Reminds me of the part in the movie Major League. Fly ball....caught |
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Post by cdj on Feb 10, 2021 21:59:37 GMT -5
I feel validated with my post now The first homerun made me laugh because of the announcer. There was zero emotion put into it lol. You would think the guys wife left him or something haha. Hahaha I noticed that too I also noticed his second to last home run where he flicks his wrist and it sails out deep to right center. Guys got some serious pop, hopefully he hits enough to realize it |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Feb 10, 2021 21:59:50 GMT -5
Return? This is a salary dump. Doesn't make any sense for a rebuilding team to sell on Benintendi when his value is at an all-time low and the roster is pretty much already filled out. Lol again, the return hasn’t been announced and you’re criticizing it Stop being absurd guys. Also it makes sense if they don’t think he can bounce back. Which they probably have the most inside info on.... Dude. The money is the only reason this trade was done. |
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Post by wildsox on Feb 10, 2021 22:01:07 GMT -5
Return? This is a salary dump. Doesn't make any sense for a rebuilding team to sell on Benintendi when his value is at an all-time low and the roster is pretty much already filled out. Lol again, the return hasn’t been announced and you’re criticizing it Stop being absurd guys. Also it makes sense if they don’t think he can bounce back. Which they probably have the most inside info on.... Exactly this. Some will criticize any move they make/don't make without even knowing anything about the players coming back |
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Post by Ryanod1 on Feb 10, 2021 22:01:31 GMT -5
The first homerun made me laugh because of the announcer. There was zero emotion put into it lol. You would think the guys wife left him or something haha. Hahaha I noticed that too I also noticed his second to last home run where he flicks his wrist and it sails out deep to right center. Guys got some serious pop, hopefully he hits enough to realize it I know right! Im actually happy about this because hes got good upside if he even gets to .265 or something. We just need to cross our fingers, and hope its not Willy Mo the 2nd haha. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 10, 2021 22:04:04 GMT -5
I'm not very thrilled either but your adding absolutely nothing by complaining that the Sox outfield is worse than it was when it won the series. No matter what it was going to be. It isn’t like that was 7 years ago. You are right. I will be loyal first and foremost to the new GM, and I will reserve judgment as he tears down homegrown guys and adds thrilling part time guys, reclamation projects etc. What does seal-clapping add? Who is seal clapping for this trade? Mookie was leaving the red sox if you can't see that I dont know what your looking at.. bloom made a trade to get back about as good a deal as he could. Jbj is leaving most likely, what do you want Bloom to do overpay for a defensive first cf with an average at best bat? Beni i would rather have kept yea but time will tell. Maybe he doesn't bounce back. Stop living in 2018. |
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Post by manfred on Feb 10, 2021 22:05:01 GMT -5
It isn’t like that was 7 years ago. You are right. I will be loyal first and foremost to the new GM, and I will reserve judgment as he tears down homegrown guys and adds thrilling part time guys, reclamation projects etc. What does seal-clapping add? Who is seal clapping for this trade? Mookie was leaving the red sox if you can't see that I dont know what your looking at.. bloom made a trade to get back about as good a deal as he could. Jbj is leaving most likely, what do you want Bloom to do overpay for a defensive first cf with an average at best bat? Beni i would rather have kept yea but time will tell. Maybe he doesn't bounce back. Stop living in 2018. Ok, I’ll live in 2020. That was a blast. |
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