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Red Sox Trade Springs and Mazza to the Rays
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 17, 2021 12:03:46 GMT -5
Geez, great trade for the Red Sox.
I mean, even if Ronaldo Hernandez has no more the career than Ryan Lavarnway did, it's a good trade.
Mazza and Springs are established veteran mediocrities. Maybe TB can squeeze out some maximization of their value, as they have a habit of doing such things.
But for the Red Sox, these guys were going to probably be released or be AAAA pitchers for them shuttling back and forth and at this point with Houck, Mata, and Seabold in the wings, they probably wouldn't have been used at all.
I see that Sogard has an organizational label. It's probably right, but his stats weren't bad.
But more importantly, in an area in which the Sox have literally no catcher of the future, they have gotten somebody with a non-zero chance of being that guy.
He might wind up being nothing, but there's a hit tool to work with, so let's see if his defense can improve enough and if he can hit enough.
An actual prospect for two guys where were extremely fungible is an outright steal for the Sox.
Fantastic move.
Makes me wonder what the hell they get for Osich now! lol
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Post by jimoh on Feb 17, 2021 12:20:44 GMT -5
The top ranked catcher in the system is Connor Wong at #21. I have to believe Ronaldo comes in somewhere in the mid teens. I note that he is already listed by SP as the starting catcher at Portland. Turn Varitek loose on him and we’ll see his defensive weaknesses strengthened . Speaking of Varitek, it's always good to look back at his struggles in the minor leagues before the Red Sox traded for him: (of course he had a weird career as a college superstar who did not sign and played indy ball for a year) "Varitek made his pro debut for Double-A Port City in 1995 and was terrible, hitting just .224/.340/.361. He did hit 10 homers and draw 61 walks, but he struck out 126 times in 352 at-bats. He was unimpressive on defense as well, throwing out 27% of runners (worse than expected) while coughing up 21 passed balls in just 89 games behind the plate. Reports were pretty negative and he was generally considered a massive disappointment. He was supposed to be a future star, but his performance didn't match the expectations generated in college. Varitek returned to [AA] Port City in 1996 and improved slightly, hitting .262/.350/.406 with 12 homers. He drew 66 walks and reduced his strikeout rate, whiffing 93 times in 503 at-bats, and he wasn't as bad with the glove, either, although his 29% caught rate was still not as good as anticipated. He was now 24 years old and had repeated the league without a massive upgrade in performance. Moved up to Triple-A Tacoma for 1997, Varitek hit .254/.329/.443 with 15 homers, 34 walks, and 71 strikeouts in 307 at-bats. Late that summer he was traded from the Mariners to the Red Sox along with Derek Lowe in exchange for Heathcliff Slocumb. He hit .197/.284/.318 in 20 games for Pawtucket after the trade. Reviews of his defense were improving and he looked a lot more like the player anticipated on defense, but his swing was perceived as too slow and long for him to be a major league star at that point. He looked like a Grade C prospect to me, and I wrote "while Varitek won't be a luminary in the Show, his combination of power and defense does have value, provided that expectations aren't too high."" www.minorleagueball.com/2012/3/6/2849678/career-profile-and-prospect-retro-jason-varitek-retires
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Post by iakovos11 on Feb 17, 2021 12:29:45 GMT -5
Geez, great trade for the Red Sox. I mean, even if Ronaldo Hernandez has no more the career than Ryan Lavarnway did, it's a good trade. Mazza and Springs are established veteran mediocrities. Maybe TB can squeeze out some maximization of their value, as they have a habit of doing such things. But for the Red Sox, these guys were going to probably be released or be AAAA pitchers for them shuttling back and forth and at this point with Houck, Mata, and Seabold in the wings, they probably wouldn't have been used at all. I see that Sogard has an organizational label. It's probably right, but his stats weren't bad. But more importantly, in an area in which the Sox have literally no catcher of the future, they have gotten somebody with a non-zero chance of being that guy. He might wind up being nothing, but there's a hit tool to work with, so let's see if his defense can improve enough and if he can hit enough. An actual prospect for two guys where were extremely fungible is an outright steal for the Sox. Fantastic move. Makes me wonder what the hell they get for Osich now! lol Reminder - they already were this week. They could have been claimed by any team for nothing. TB obviously thought they would be. Sox got something (a somewhat significant something - top 15-ish prospect) for nothing.
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Post by manfred on Feb 17, 2021 12:44:07 GMT -5
I was zero percent crapping on Bloom. Chapeau! Those guys were almost certainly lost for nothing, and he got something. I just think it is funny that when we get a guy like Cordero, it is great because we see something the Royals don’t; when we get a guy like Hernandez, it’s great, the Rays blew it trading a legit prospect for two guys we binned. But the logic doesn’t seem to run the other way... maybe we are getting a guy who has slid in their rankings and is losing value (the way some see Benentendi, for example). Or maybe Mazza or Springs is one fix from being a really good pitcher?
It was not meant to be some big fart in church... I guess I just lean towards assuming that the Rays aren’t going to bollocks up a trade so badly that suddenly we have a guy that they badly under-valued. I’m a cautious dude.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Feb 17, 2021 13:01:15 GMT -5
Reading up on Hernandez more it seems like this is a guy who was potentially slated to be the Rays catcher by the end of 2021. Covid is going to really make it weird but I also wouldn't be surprised if he gets reps by September either.
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Post by ianrs on Feb 17, 2021 13:11:08 GMT -5
Chaim Bloom is literally the anti Dombrowski and I am now down to watch the Red Sox again
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Post by shagworthy on Feb 17, 2021 13:15:08 GMT -5
I was zero percent crapping on Bloom. Chapeau! Those guys were almost certainly lost for nothing, and he got something. I just think it is funny that when we get a guy like Cordero, it is great because we see something the Royals don’t; when we get a guy like Hernandez, it’s great, the Rays blew it trading a legit prospect for two guys we binned. But the logic doesn’t seem to run the other way... maybe we are getting a guy who has slid in their rankings and is losing value (the way some see Benentendi, for example). Or maybe Mazza or Springs is one fix from being a really good pitcher? It was not meant to be some big fart in church... I guess I just lean towards assuming that the Rays aren’t going to bollocks up a trade so badly that suddenly we have a guy that they badly under-valued. I’m a cautious dude. It's entirely plausible both sides won in this deal. The Rays get a couple of arms they can shuttle back and forth between AAA and the pen all season who have mlb experience, and the Sox get a player at a position where they are light on the depth chart, and a wildcard infielder who could be the second coming of Jeff Frye. Trades, unlike games currently, can end in a tie. I'm excited they got a net positive for two players I considered to be battling my dead grandmother for who I'd rather see on a Fenway mound. (Ok, that's partially a lie, grandma wins every time, and she had a deadly forkball). While it can be exciting to reminisce about past trade wins, there is always one element that is missing when we do this right after a deal, the passage of time.
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Post by Jimmy on Feb 17, 2021 13:25:12 GMT -5
Love the trade, got something for nothing and at worst the something is at least intriguing. Slots in at #5-10 in the Sox system per FanGraphs.
A procedural note since it’s been brought up a couple times here - this trade put the 40 man at 42, but Plawecki is headed to the COVID list and Sale is eligible for the 60 Day IL today so that should have them at 40. No further move necessary, at least until Plawecki comes back.
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Post by incandenza on Feb 17, 2021 13:26:26 GMT -5
I was zero percent crapping on Bloom. Chapeau! Those guys were almost certainly lost for nothing, and he got something. I just think it is funny that when we get a guy like Cordero, it is great because we see something the Royals don’t; when we get a guy like Hernandez, it’s great, the Rays blew it trading a legit prospect for two guys we binned. But the logic doesn’t seem to run the other way... maybe we are getting a guy who has slid in their rankings and is losing value (the way some see Benentendi, for example). Or maybe Mazza or Springs is one fix from being a really good pitcher? It was not meant to be some big fart in church... I guess I just lean towards assuming that the Rays aren’t going to bollocks up a trade so badly that suddenly we have a guy that they badly under-valued. I’m a cautious dude. It's entirely plausible both sides won in this deal. The Rays get a couple of arms they can shuttle back and forth between AAA and the pen all season who have mlb experience, and the Sox get a player at a position where they are light on the depth chart, and a wildcard infielder who could be the second coming of Jeff Frye. Trades, unlike games currently, can end in a tie. I'm excited they got a net positive for two players I considered to be battling my dead grandmother for who I'd rather see on a Fenway mound. (Ok, that's partially a lie, grandma wins every time, and she had a deadly forkball). While it can be exciting to reminisce about past trade wins, there is always one element that is missing when we do this right after a deal, the passage of time. Just in general, I don't know why we always use the language of competition when it comes to trades. They're agreements, like contracts; they're predicated on the idea that both sides get something they want. It can be a bad trade or a good trade for a given team, but there's no "winner" and "loser."
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Post by manfred on Feb 17, 2021 13:27:51 GMT -5
I was zero percent crapping on Bloom. Chapeau! Those guys were almost certainly lost for nothing, and he got something. I just think it is funny that when we get a guy like Cordero, it is great because we see something the Royals don’t; when we get a guy like Hernandez, it’s great, the Rays blew it trading a legit prospect for two guys we binned. But the logic doesn’t seem to run the other way... maybe we are getting a guy who has slid in their rankings and is losing value (the way some see Benentendi, for example). Or maybe Mazza or Springs is one fix from being a really good pitcher? It was not meant to be some big fart in church... I guess I just lean towards assuming that the Rays aren’t going to bollocks up a trade so badly that suddenly we have a guy that they badly under-valued. I’m a cautious dude. It's entirely plausible both sides won in this deal. The Rays get a couple of arms they can shuttle back and forth between AAA and the pen all season who have mlb experience, and the Sox get a player at a position where they are light on the depth chart, and a wildcard infielder who could be the second coming of Jeff Frye. Trades, unlike games currently, can end in a tie. I'm excited they got a net positive for two players I considered to be battling my dead grandmother for who I'd rather see on a Fenway mound. (Ok, that's partially a lie, grandma wins every time, and she had a deadly forkball). While it can be exciting to reminisce about past trade wins, there is always one element that is missing when we do this right after a deal, the passage of time. True. Now... totally independent of evaluating this trade: Mazza was actually, alas, one of the better pitchers on the team last year (after you take out the three real pitchers, Eovaldi, Houck, and Perez, and the surprisingly valuable Weber, he was right there in the pack). He was essentially equal to Brasier, who, to me, is living off of his stunning 2018. I kind of wonder why the Sox value Brasier over Mazza, with the latter a more flexible dude. Not a criticism ... implicit is not that they are wrong. I assume there is a reason, and I wonder what it is. Personally, I don’t trust Brasier much firyher than I can throw him.
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Post by mobaz on Feb 17, 2021 13:32:39 GMT -5
At ceiling Brasier is a solid 8th inning guy (and for a stretch to end the year he looked like it), and Mazza is replaceable with minor league depth we finally have. I'd rather have Mazza if we needed the 7th or 8th starter/long man, but since we have options there I like upside of potential 7th/8th inning shutdown guy.
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Post by Jimmy on Feb 17, 2021 13:37:04 GMT -5
It's entirely plausible both sides won in this deal. The Rays get a couple of arms they can shuttle back and forth between AAA and the pen all season who have mlb experience, and the Sox get a player at a position where they are light on the depth chart, and a wildcard infielder who could be the second coming of Jeff Frye. Trades, unlike games currently, can end in a tie. I'm excited they got a net positive for two players I considered to be battling my dead grandmother for who I'd rather see on a Fenway mound. (Ok, that's partially a lie, grandma wins every time, and she had a deadly forkball). While it can be exciting to reminisce about past trade wins, there is always one element that is missing when we do this right after a deal, the passage of time. True. Now... totally independent of evaluating this trade: Mazza was actually, alas, one of the better pitchers on the team last year (after you take out the three real pitchers, Eovaldi, Houck, and Perez, and the surprisingly valuable Weber, he was right there in the pack). He was essentially equal to Brasier, who, to me, is living off of his stunning 2018. I kind of wonder why the Sox value Brasier over Mazza, with the latter a more flexible dude. Not a criticism ... implicit is not that they are wrong. I assume there is a reason, and I wonder what it is. Personally, I don’t trust Brasier much firyher than I can throw him. I saw in the TB article posted earlier that the DFAs were a procedural move to buy time for the trade amidst a 40 man roster crunch. If that’s true, it’s possible they did value Springs / Mata / both more than Brewer, but opted to trade those two out of the three similar tiered pitchers because they netted the best return.
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Post by incandenza on Feb 17, 2021 13:37:27 GMT -5
It's entirely plausible both sides won in this deal. The Rays get a couple of arms they can shuttle back and forth between AAA and the pen all season who have mlb experience, and the Sox get a player at a position where they are light on the depth chart, and a wildcard infielder who could be the second coming of Jeff Frye. Trades, unlike games currently, can end in a tie. I'm excited they got a net positive for two players I considered to be battling my dead grandmother for who I'd rather see on a Fenway mound. (Ok, that's partially a lie, grandma wins every time, and she had a deadly forkball). While it can be exciting to reminisce about past trade wins, there is always one element that is missing when we do this right after a deal, the passage of time. True. Now... totally independent of evaluating this trade: Mazza was actually, alas, one of the better pitchers on the team last year (after you take out the three real pitchers, Eovaldi, Houck, and Perez, and the surprisingly valuable Weber, he was right there in the pack). He was essentially equal to Brasier, who, to me, is living off of his stunning 2018. I kind of wonder why the Sox value Brasier over Mazza, with the latter a more flexible dude. Not a criticism ... implicit is not that they are wrong. I assume there is a reason, and I wonder what it is. Personally, I don’t trust Brasier much firyher than I can throw him. Well, Brasier has a better career ERA, FIP, xFIP, K rate, and BB rate. In fact that's still the case even if you only count 2019 and 2020 (other than FIP, which was trivially higher). In 2020 alone Brasier's ERA/FIP/xFIP were all about a full run lower than Mazza's. It doesn't really seem like a tough call to me.
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Post by incandenza on Feb 17, 2021 13:40:14 GMT -5
Have to assume something else is coming. Even if it means flipping the guys they just got. My hope is that he's actively trying to complete the baseball version of One Red Paperclip. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_red_paperclipGame ends when we get Betts back and LA is covering half his contract. Ha! I was trying to think of exactly this analogy during the Benintendi trade (getting Khalil Lee, flipping him for Mystery PTBNL) but couldn't remember what it was...
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Post by shagworthy on Feb 17, 2021 13:42:16 GMT -5
It's entirely plausible both sides won in this deal. The Rays get a couple of arms they can shuttle back and forth between AAA and the pen all season who have mlb experience, and the Sox get a player at a position where they are light on the depth chart, and a wildcard infielder who could be the second coming of Jeff Frye. Trades, unlike games currently, can end in a tie. I'm excited they got a net positive for two players I considered to be battling my dead grandmother for who I'd rather see on a Fenway mound. (Ok, that's partially a lie, grandma wins every time, and she had a deadly forkball). While it can be exciting to reminisce about past trade wins, there is always one element that is missing when we do this right after a deal, the passage of time. True. Now... totally independent of evaluating this trade: Mazza was actually, alas, one of the better pitchers on the team last year (after you take out the three real pitchers, Eovaldi, Houck, and Perez, and the surprisingly valuable Weber, he was right there in the pack). He was essentially equal to Brasier, who, to me, is living off of his stunning 2018. I kind of wonder why the Sox value Brasier over Mazza, with the latter a more flexible dude. Not a criticism ... implicit is not that they are wrong. I assume there is a reason, and I wonder what it is. Personally, I don’t trust Brasier much firyher than I can throw him. I'm not a Braiser fan either, but for me it's more personal than statistical with him, so I won't expound. I would expect because his velocity ticked back up that is what is keeping him employed, but if he struggles again he will be gone in a heartbeat. As far as Mazza, and the rest of the guys who will one day be a trivia question from last year who threw to at least one batter for the Sox, None of them, even the ones that were for lack of a better word, serviceable, really struck me as belonging on a major league team. Weber, Mazza, Godley, Springs, Osich, Covey, Kickham, Stock, Hart, Hall, Taylor, Leyer, Walden, Triggs, Tapia oh god, the list goes on, were all a dreadful watch. The sense I had watching the games, and because I am a Sox fan (read masochist) I watched most of them, was that by the second inning we were going to be behind run(s), plural. It's fine when you have maybe one of those guys in a long year, but a whole pitching staff full of them? I can't imagine being a player on the field during the long innings to start a game, we had 9 guys every day that were starring in their own personal SouthWest commercial.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 17, 2021 13:45:10 GMT -5
I was zero percent crapping on Bloom. Chapeau! Those guys were almost certainly lost for nothing, and he got something. I just think it is funny that when we get a guy like Cordero, it is great because we see something the Royals don’t; when we get a guy like Hernandez, it’s great, the Rays blew it trading a legit prospect for two guys we binned. But the logic doesn’t seem to run the other way... maybe we are getting a guy who has slid in their rankings and is losing value (the way some see Benentendi, for example). Or maybe Mazza or Springs is one fix from being a really good pitcher? It was not meant to be some big fart in church... I guess I just lean towards assuming that the Rays aren’t going to bollocks up a trade so badly that suddenly we have a guy that they badly under-valued. I’m a cautious dude. I do get where you're coming from. It's just for me that we know what Mazza and Springs are for the Sox, pretty much nothing. I find it hard to believe that anybody would give up anything of value for either of those guys. So it's surprising that a smart team like the Rays would give up a guy with some value, more than I'd think Mazza and Springs have. I mean what ceiling do those two have? I'd guess that Hernandez has a much bigger ceiling. Even his floor can't be that much lower. Maybe he's a guy who can't catch good enough to be a catcher and can't hit enough to be a 1b/dh, so maybe he's a backup or AAAA player. That's likely your floor on him. But what if somebody like a Tek can help him develop his catching game. The Sox have him to help that out. I know Kevin Cash was a catcher but I don't think the Rays use him in a teaching/mentoring capacity. I look at it this way. The system was depleted and devoid of minor league talent. Bloom has added five years of a core guy in Verdugo (yes, I know at the expense of Mookie - although if you listened to the barstool podcast interview of Bloom, it's really illuminating), two guys in Cordero and Pivetta who could continue to be disappointments or could break out, but the bigger picture is that he has added Downs, Wong, Seabold, Wallace, Potts, Rosario, Frank German, Garrett Whitlock, Winckowski, and now Ronaldo Hernandez, plus he has three more minor leaguers coming over as PTNBL. Has he added top shelf minor league quality? Not necessarily? Although you can argue that Downs would qualify and who knows if he hit on Yorke and/or Jordan or what he converts the #4 pick into? However, the depth of the system is a helluva lot thicker than it was, meaning that the odds that one or more truly blossom is increased and that you have more prospects as trade chips when you're in a position to deal. It's sneaky quiet, but I can see what he's doing. There's no quick fix here. If 2013 happens again, great, but that's not what he's trying to do. And this trade fits right into his scheme.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 17, 2021 13:45:28 GMT -5
The Rays aren't perfect, no one every said they were. Recent example Jake Cronenworth.
Just going by age this kinda looks like who needs what on their 40 man roster. Rays were set at catcher, needed arms, we needed a catcher a lot more. Looks like a good old fashion Baseball trade.
When you build crazy deep farm systems for a long period of time, pieces will fall through the cracks because they have other pieces they like more. That being said I do wonder why those two arms.
Good move in my book. I could see Hernandez being part of a platoon at some point or a back up offensive catcher. Yet even if he's just depth, it's still a good move.
I can't stress enough impressed I've been with Bloom starting with the deadline deals to now. I didn't like last off-season, it was like a GM in the kids pool, well he's swimming in the deep end now. You can look at a lot of these moves as meh to okay, yet start adding them all up and wow. He's really adding depth at all positions.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Feb 17, 2021 14:15:42 GMT -5
My hope is that he's actively trying to complete the baseball version of One Red Paperclip. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_red_paperclipGame ends when we get Betts back and LA is covering half his contract. Ha! I was trying to think of exactly this analogy during the Benintendi trade (getting Khalil Lee, flipping him for Mystery PTBNL) but couldn't remember what it was... The paperclip story is brilliant.
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Post by skiptomylouboudreau on Feb 17, 2021 14:48:09 GMT -5
I like to compare modern relief pitchers to offensive linemen in football... many of them are overrated and often over-matched, and unless you have a generational talent for a decade, you're just hoping to catch lightning in a bottle for a few seasons as long as they can hold up. Yet they are extremely valuable to protect your star talent, so even mediocre ones with flexible contracts and service time have some value as a commodity.
The spectrum here is that Hernandez works his way into a MLB catching role, or hits enough to become a 1B/DH one day. One or both of Mazza/Springs turn into useful relievers on the cheap and then turn into upgraded trade chips when they deserve a raise. Otherwise, Hernandez could just bottom out and never see an MLB roster and Mazza/Springs perform as poorly as we have seen and then run out of options.
Either way I think its a win/win for both clubs, with the Sox getting something to add to their pipeline and the Rays adding to their depth.
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Post by wildsox on Feb 17, 2021 15:05:01 GMT -5
I like this trade. We are getting a legitimate prospect in return at a position we can use the depth albeit a prospect with some warts and question marks. He was a top 15 prospect in one of the better farms systems.
Also, trading Springs and Mazza opens up some innings for guys like Seabold,Bazardo etc. and I'd much rather see them get the experience. I do think Mazza and Springs are useable pitchers but we know what they are capable of and I'd prefer seeing the young guys get the looks.
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Post by blizzards39 on Feb 17, 2021 15:52:43 GMT -5
One has to figure Hernandez will fall somewhere between Ward at 9 and Bonaci at 14
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Post by ramireja on Feb 17, 2021 15:58:35 GMT -5
This trade is a win, simply because of the fact it was made. Dombrowski wouldn't have pulled this off. Look, Hernandez has a range of outcomes and may never make it in the big leagues. That won't mean the trade wasn't worth it or was a 'loss.' The loss would be losing Mazza and Springs for nothing on waivers. Combining them both and flipping for a former Top 100 prospect + another org guy is just good business. Again, many of these trades in isolation may not result in long-term value, but the sheer fact that Bloom is very active in making moves along the periphery increase the odds of obtaining cheap, cost-controlled, future value and thats all part of the plan for sustainable success.
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Post by foreverred9 on Feb 17, 2021 16:16:06 GMT -5
Almost every time there's a deal we focus on the ground up analysis of the deal and evaluate whether it was right or not, which I'd call the analytics lens (which per the tweet above is a clear win).
There's also the other angle of return vs expectations, what at work I call the business planning lens. Think about that perspective, was anyone here expecting us to get a return from those DFA's?
I for one was just thinking someone had to come off to get our players on, and we'd move on with a few less players. So to my surprise this morning, we now have another prospect to follow this year.
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Post by manfred on Feb 17, 2021 16:24:32 GMT -5
This trade is a win, simply because of the fact it was made. Dombrowski wouldn't have pulled this off. Look, Hernandez has a range of outcomes and may never make it in the big leagues. That won't mean the trade wasn't worth it or was a 'loss.' The loss would be losing Mazza and Springs for nothing on waivers. Combining them both and flipping for a former Top 100 prospect + another org guy is just good business. Again, many of these trades in isolation may not result in long-term value, but the sheer fact that Bloom is very active in making moves along the periphery increase the odds of obtaining cheap, cost-controlled, future value and thats all part of the plan for sustainable success. I agree with this, but I also would like to see a few moves that are non-periphery winners. People can say this is what Dombrowski didn’t do, but we also don’t know how much context matters. DD was brought in to build a juggernaut, and he did. So far, we can look at getting Sale or signing JDM and say “these are the sorts of moves Bloom doesn’t pull off.” In context, so far he hasn’t been tasked with that. But the comp is apples and oranges. Again, Bloom gets plaudits as a seller and as a bargain hunter. That has been the plan, it appears. But there will come a day when they will need to shift gears to be a serious contender. That’s when I’ll be ready to compare him to DD (who has a heavier ring finger at the moment).
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Feb 17, 2021 17:15:15 GMT -5
This trade is a win, simply because of the fact it was made. Dombrowski wouldn't have pulled this off. Look, Hernandez has a range of outcomes and may never make it in the big leagues. That won't mean the trade wasn't worth it or was a 'loss.' The loss would be losing Mazza and Springs for nothing on waivers. Combining them both and flipping for a former Top 100 prospect + another org guy is just good business. Again, many of these trades in isolation may not result in long-term value, but the sheer fact that Bloom is very active in making moves along the periphery increase the odds of obtaining cheap, cost-controlled, future value and thats all part of the plan for sustainable success. I agree with this, but I also would like to see a few moves that are non-periphery winners. People can say this is what Dombrowski didn’t do, but we also don’t know how much context matters. DD was brought in to build a juggernaut, and he did. So far, we can look at getting Sale or signing JDM and say “these are the sorts of moves Bloom doesn’t pull off.” In context, so far he hasn’t been tasked with that. But the comp is apples and oranges. Again, Bloom gets plaudits as a seller and as a bargain hunter. That has been the plan, it appears. But there will come a day when they will need to shift gears to be a serious contender. That’s when I’ll be ready to compare him to DD (who has a heavier ring finger at the moment). Bloom seems like the medium of DD and Cherington but more Cherington than DD. Lets see if he hoards prospects once the system is rebuilt
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