Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 11, 2021 11:23:55 GMT -5
Guys usually take 3-5 years to get ready after being drafted or signed. I think the blame is more on Ben and that great farm system. All the pitchers has yet to develop even now. I mean DD only traded one big piece in Moncada.
Look at Bloom last year, he wasn't able to restock the system while trying to win. Now give him a year were the team sucked and he could sell off players and he's done a great job. DD didn't have that opportunity. DD didn't get the chance to pick up the #4 guy in the rule five draft because his team was so bad.
DD gets blamed for way too much crap on this board.
He gets blamed for blowing up a farm system, blowing up payroll to tops in majors ( with no plan in place to bring it down so team could stay competitive for quality players), and for thinking to much about the here and now and not 2 years from now. I actually think he found some good gems in draft. But internationally they found nothing so far. And his signings spent far to much money on not enough production. He did exact same thing in Florida and Detroit. Will be interesting to see what he does in Philadelphia
Is it DD fault that loaded system had so many busts? Three top 100 pitchers and not a single one has yet to become even a decent starter five years later. How is it DD fault that Beeks was the best pitcher to come out of that system so far?
I'd say he was rather brilliant getting value out of Espinoza, Margot and Guerra. We got more value than Swihart and Owens. He traded one guy you regret trading and even then he got Chris Sale for him and won a Championship. He didn't destroy the system. It was either overrated or had a ton of bad luck. To make matters worse there was almost nothing behind that group and that's on Ben Cherington. DD first picks and international guys are just now getting to the bigs or close, with Groome, Dalbec and Mata.
You do get it was Cherington that had us basically not have two international classes right? DD massive international signing after he got money died a few weeks later in one of the most shocking events in recent memory. Still four guys in our top 15 were DD international guys in Jimenez, Mata, Ramirez and Bonaci. You think that's nothing?
You're blaming DD for ownerships orders. They had Theo and Ben do the exact same thing. It's our owners MO, go all in win a championship and then rebuild/bridge year.
DD didn't destroy our farm system and with less options than former GMs had did a darn good job of rebuilding it. Your just starting to see it, given how long it takes to develop guys in the minors. The issues were much more Ben Cherington bad drafts before DD took over, go back and look at them.