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4/12-4/15 Red Sox @ Twins Series Thread
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2021 16:34:02 GMT -5
Fantastic Win!
Perez hung in there when it looked like he didn't have it. Renfroe hit a key HR. Dalbec went the opposite field which is a really good thing to do, because it meant he was staying on the ball.
I could see what the Red Sox see in Arroyo and if given a choice between a 14th pitcher and keeping Arroyo, I really think it's an easy choice. Arroyo can help this team.
Raffy went deep for the 4th straight day. The bullpen hung in there as Cora pieced together 3 innings before turning it over to Barnes who has been dominant so far.
This is easily the most fun that I've had watching the Red Sox since 2018.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Apr 13, 2021 16:35:05 GMT -5
Is it just me or does every time Devers hits a bomb it doesn’t look like it was that crushed off the bat? Suddenly you look and the ball lands in another stratosphere.
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Post by Canseco on Apr 13, 2021 16:35:08 GMT -5
Huzzah! Solid team effort, but a special tip of the cap to Martin Perez. He gutted out those five innings and kept us in the game.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 13, 2021 16:37:23 GMT -5
Dalbec had 3 of the 7 hardest hit balls in that game - 106, 107, and 111 mph. Has the beast awoken?
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Post by Jimmy on Apr 13, 2021 16:43:00 GMT -5
I choose not to believe that 404’ Statcast on the Devers HR... I’d like to think it went a lot further than that.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 13, 2021 16:44:37 GMT -5
Thanks Mother Nature... now I have to wake up 2 days in a row to think about Perez starting Good thoughts, only good thoughts.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 13, 2021 16:49:57 GMT -5
Thanks Mother Nature... now I have to wake up 2 days in a row to think about Perez starting Good thoughts, only good thoughts. He's not gonna win a Cy Young anytime soon, but he's given up 4 ER or fewer in 12 of his 14 starts for the Red Sox, and 3 runs or fewer in 10 of them.
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Post by foreverred9 on Apr 13, 2021 16:51:28 GMT -5
As a number 5 starter he's been very solid. It sure beats last year when he was our #2.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 13, 2021 16:58:56 GMT -5
What a good day for Chaim Bloom reinforcements.
Edit: I forgot Arroyo was acquired last year, but Perez technically counts since he signed a 1-year deal in February.
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Post by manfred on Apr 13, 2021 17:02:35 GMT -5
It is funny, but *at the moment* it is reasonable to say being down on the off-season could be right AND thinking the team would be bad could be wrong. Personally, I probably underestimated the boost comeback years from JDM and Devers could have. Obviously the return of ERod is big, but I was not so sure about Pivetta (still not, but so far so good).
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Post by Coreno on Apr 13, 2021 17:03:29 GMT -5
What a good day for Chaim Bloom reinforcements. Edit: I forgot Arroyo was acquired last year, but Perez technically counts since he signed a 1-year deal in February. Both were still Bloom acquisitions.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 13, 2021 17:10:06 GMT -5
I'm going to peek in on NY vs. Toronto later, to watch them beat each other up.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 13, 2021 17:12:08 GMT -5
Ha ha..showing the snowflakes now. Perfect baseball weather. ball should be flying out. About 60 in Boston now. KEEP IT TO BASEB... oh, you mean literal snowflakes? Got it.
Erg
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Post by chrisfromnc on Apr 13, 2021 17:24:33 GMT -5
Sox playoff odds increased from 40% to 46% after this game. Fangraphs gives them only a 14% chance of winning the division while the Yankees have a 70% chance to win the division.
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Post by ianrs on Apr 13, 2021 17:28:50 GMT -5
I hope you all are starting to appreciate what a masterclass bridge year rebuild Bloom pulled off. 4th pick + contender by making other teams forgotten players into treasures and selling in a lost COVID season.
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Post by Jimmy on Apr 13, 2021 17:34:51 GMT -5
I hope you all are starting to appreciate what a masterclass bridge year rebuild Bloom pulled off. 4th pick + contender by making other teams forgotten players into treasures and selling in a lost COVID season. I’m extremely high on Bloom but I think it’s a little early for that. Maybe I’ll agree a month from now.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Apr 13, 2021 17:35:34 GMT -5
Barnes has slowly earned my confidence. He wasn’t even at his best today, and he still overwhelmed them. He looked pretty good here. Up to 97mph, hung 1 pitch that didn't hurt him. Think he's looking ahead to being a FA next year?
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Post by manfred on Apr 13, 2021 17:52:43 GMT -5
I hope you all are starting to appreciate what a masterclass bridge year rebuild Bloom pulled off. 4th pick + contender by making other teams forgotten players into treasures and selling in a lost COVID season. Honestly... I don’t get it. Sure, he’s gotten some contributors. But who is the engine right now? CVaz, JDM, Devers on O. Eovaldi the ace. ERod back. Barnes the closer. Credit for Perez, certainly credit for the Workman score. But the “master class” features an off-season yield of mostly freeloaders. The worst starter, a bunch ~0 WAR guys — indeed, if you take Arroyo, who is outhitting Kiké, you could argue he wasted money signing the latter. As I wrote above, I may have misjudged how good the *core* of this team is, but thus far there has not been any breakout off season addition. Put differently: besides (for the moment) Whitlock, if they didn’t have any of the offseason new guys (so doesn’t count Perez), who would be missed that much? Add: After today, today’s lineup looks like this Kiké — .594 OPS Verdugo — .194 BA, .675 OPS JDM — 1.427 OPS X — .361 BA, .827 OPS Devers — 1.052 OPS CVaz — .954 OPS Renfroe — .514 OPS Arroyo — .750 OPS Dalbec — .544 OPS Pattern?
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 13, 2021 18:01:32 GMT -5
I hope you all are starting to appreciate what a masterclass bridge year rebuild Bloom pulled off. 4th pick + contender by making other teams forgotten players into treasures and selling in a lost COVID season. Really looking like a masterclass, especially the pitching depth. But let's not forgive to give one guy the credit he deserves, Alex Cora is just a BAD MAN.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 13, 2021 18:18:19 GMT -5
Thanks Mother Nature... now I have to wake up 2 days in a row to think about Perez starting Good thoughts, only good thoughts. The Red Sox are tied for the best winning percentage in the American League....good thoughts....
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 13, 2021 18:25:09 GMT -5
just took a look at Bobby Bombs stats. SSS, but i feel awful for him. Gotta be tough. Hopefully, he shows some fortitude and turns it around. Fingers crossed. He actually had a really good xwOBA coming into day.
Game log, wOBA / xxOBA:
.000 / .023 .174 / .188 .000 / .204 (sits)
.444 / .643 .000 / .380 .174 / .253 .391 / .746
That's a .260 wOBA but .560 xwOBA since he took a whole two days off to fix his swing (MLB norm = 12).
Today he went 107.4, 105.6, 111.3 EV with xBA of .920, .920, .900.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 13, 2021 18:28:47 GMT -5
I hope you all are starting to appreciate what a masterclass bridge year rebuild Bloom pulled off. 4th pick + contender by making other teams forgotten players into treasures and selling in a lost COVID season. Honestly... I donât get it. Sure, heâs gotten some contributors. But who is the engine right now? CVaz, JDM, Devers on O. Eovaldi the ace. ERod back. Barnes the closer. Credit for Perez, certainly credit for the Workman score. But the âmaster classâ features an off-season yield of mostly freeloaders. The worst starter, a bunch ~0 WAR guys â indeed, if you take Arroyo, who is outhitting Kiké, you could argue he wasted money signing the latter. As I wrote above, I may have misjudged how good the *core* of this team is, but thus far there has not been any breakout off season addition. Put differently: besides (for the moment) Whitlock, if they didnât have any of the offseason new guys (so doesnât count Perez), who would be missed that much? Add: After today, todayâs lineup looks like this Kiké â .594 OPS Verdugo â .194 BA, .675 OPS JDM â 1.427 OPS X â .361 BA, .827 OPS Devers â 1.052 OPS CVaz â .954 OPS Renfroe â .514 OPS Arroyo â .750 OPS Dalbec â .544 OPS Pattern? I'm inclined to sort of split the difference between this and ianrs's comment. Yes, there is a lot left to prove. But what has Bloom emphasized from the beginning? Depth. What was this team desperately in need of? Depth. (Need I remind you that even the 2018 team had Eduardo Nunez as a key figure?) What I liked about the off-season moves is that it looked like Bloom was building a team with no real holes. Kiké and Marwin and Renfroe and Arroyo may not be the engine of this team, but they don't need to be.
And this goes all the more for the pitching. The improvement of the starting rotation from last year to this is unbelievable. Houck is the #6 starter, and that's before Sale comes back, and with Whitlock and Seabold in the wings!
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 13, 2021 18:31:36 GMT -5
I hope you all are starting to appreciate what a masterclass bridge year rebuild Bloom pulled off. 4th pick + contender by making other teams forgotten players into treasures and selling in a lost COVID season. Honestly... I don’t get it. Sure, he’s gotten some contributors. But who is the engine right now? CVaz, JDM, Devers on O. Eovaldi the ace. ERod back. Barnes the closer. Credit for Perez, certainly credit for the Workman score. But the “master class” features an off-season yield of mostly freeloaders. The worst starter, a bunch ~0 WAR guys — indeed, if you take Arroyo, who is outhitting Kiké, you could argue he wasted money signing the latter. As I wrote above, I may have misjudged how good the *core* of this team is, but thus far there has not been any breakout off season addition. Put differently: besides (for the moment) Whitlock, if they didn’t have any of the offseason new guys (so doesn’t count Perez), who would be missed that much? Add: After today, today’s lineup looks like this Kiké — .594 OPS Verdugo — .194 BA, .675 OPS JDM — 1.427 OPS X — .361 BA, .827 OPS Devers — 1.052 OPS CVaz — .954 OPS Renfroe — .514 OPS Arroyo — .750 OPS Dalbec — .544 OPS Pattern? Bloom signed complementary players so as not to block the prospects coming up soon, and the (unspoken) mandate from management to stay under the CBT. Bloom had to parcel out smaller amounts of money to each player to a fill a large number of positions, so the result was that he signed more complementary players than stars. It was simple math. That was what he had to work with. He has done a good job under the circumstances he had to work with!
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Post by cdj on Apr 13, 2021 18:31:57 GMT -5
I hope you all are starting to appreciate what a masterclass bridge year rebuild Bloom pulled off. 4th pick + contender by making other teams forgotten players into treasures and selling in a lost COVID season. Honestly... I don’t get it. Sure, he’s gotten some contributors. But who is the engine right now? CVaz, JDM, Devers on O. Eovaldi the ace. ERod back. Barnes the closer. Credit for Perez, certainly credit for the Workman score. But the “master class” features an off-season yield of mostly freeloaders. The worst starter, a bunch ~0 WAR guys — indeed, if you take Arroyo, who is outhitting Kiké, you could argue he wasted money signing the latter. As I wrote above, I may have misjudged how good the *core* of this team is, but thus far there has not been any breakout off season addition. Put differently: besides (for the moment) Whitlock, if they didn’t have any of the offseason new guys (so doesn’t count Perez), who would be missed that much? Add: After today, today’s lineup looks like this Kiké — .594 OPS Verdugo — .194 BA, .675 OPS JDM — 1.427 OPS X — .361 BA, .827 OPS Devers — 1.052 OPS CVaz — .954 OPS Renfroe — .514 OPS Arroyo — .750 OPS Dalbec — .544 OPS Pattern? Franchy is playing good baseball. Kikè had an awful opening series but once he got over it he was hitting well until today in the snow. Sawamura looks good. Ottavino looks pretty good to me. Renfroe had a big role in the win today. The counting stats may not be there for all of them but they’re all having moments that contribute to winning (some more than others)
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Post by manfred on Apr 13, 2021 18:32:43 GMT -5
Honestly... I donât get it. Sure, heâs gotten some contributors. But who is the engine right now? CVaz, JDM, Devers on O. Eovaldi the ace. ERod back. Barnes the closer. Credit for Perez, certainly credit for the Workman score. But the âmaster classâ features an off-season yield of mostly freeloaders. The worst starter, a bunch ~0 WAR guys â indeed, if you take Arroyo, who is outhitting Kiké, you could argue he wasted money signing the latter. As I wrote above, I may have misjudged how good the *core* of this team is, but thus far there has not been any breakout off season addition. Put differently: besides (for the moment) Whitlock, if they didnât have any of the offseason new guys (so doesnât count Perez), who would be missed that much? Add: After today, todayâs lineup looks like this Kiké â .594 OPS Verdugo â .194 BA, .675 OPS JDM â 1.427 OPS X â .361 BA, .827 OPS Devers â 1.052 OPS CVaz â .954 OPS Renfroe â .514 OPS Arroyo â .750 OPS Dalbec â .544 OPS Pattern? I'm inclined to sort of split the difference between this and ianrs's comment. Yes, there is a lot left to prove. But what has Bloom emphasized from the beginning? Depth. What was this team desperately in need of? Depth. (Need I remind you that even the 2018 team had Eduardo Nunez as a key figure?) What I liked about the off-season moves is that it looked like Bloom was building a team with no real holes. Kiké and Marwin and Renfroe and Arroyo may not be the engine of this team, but they don't need to be.
And this goes all the more for the pitching. The improvement of the starting rotation from last year to this is unbelievable. Houck is the #6 starter, and that's before Sale comes back, and with Whitlock and Seabold in the wings!
That is true... but at this early point, I’d say lives are made relatively easy when you can write Player Player JDM Bogaerts Devers Vasquez Player Player Player Doesn’t take a genius.
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