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4/27-4/28 Red Sox @ Mets Series Thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 27, 2021 7:01:39 GMT -5
4/27 Red Sox (RHP Garrett Richards, 0-2, 6.48, 16.2 IP, 12K:13BB) vs Mets (LHP David Peterson, 1-2, 6.75, 13.1 IP, 18K:4BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 4/28 Red Sox (RHP Nick Pivetta, 2-0, 3.48, 20.2 IP, 18K:14BB) vs Mets (RHP Jacob deGrom, 2-1, 0.31, 29.0, 50K:3BB) 6:40 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB Scoreboard MLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2021: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 27, 2021 7:31:35 GMT -5
That is a pretty intimidating pitching line for deGrom, 50k:3bb, but he does have a loss so he isn't invincible. Sox have done well with the aces this year so I hope it continues.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 27, 2021 7:39:19 GMT -5
That is a pretty intimidating pitching line for deGrom, 50k:3bb, but he does have a loss so he isn't invincible. Sox have done well with the aces this year so I hope it continues. FYI, he went 8IP, 5H, 1ER, 0BB, 14K in his loss.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 27, 2021 7:46:16 GMT -5
That is a pretty intimidating pitching line for deGrom, 50k:3bb, but he does have a loss so he isn't invincible. Sox have done well with the aces this year so I hope it continues. FYI, he went 8IP, 5H, 1ER, 0BB, 14K in his loss. LOL... So what you are saying is that Pivetta is going to need a great start for the Sox to have a chance? The betting odds will probably be around -350 for the Mets.
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Post by nomar on Apr 27, 2021 7:55:34 GMT -5
This team kills good pitching and goes on vacation for journeymen starters so this series will be a good way to test that trend
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Post by KB24 on Apr 27, 2021 9:35:50 GMT -5
That is a pretty intimidating pitching line for deGrom, 50k:3bb, but he does have a loss so he isn't invincible. Sox have done well with the aces this year so I hope it continues. Some of the K/BB numbers we're seeing from starting pitchers to start this season are mind boggling. Cole/DeGrom both 50:3, Bauer- 45:6. Corbin Burnes is at 49:0 which is a record to start a season and only 7K's behind Curt Schilling for longest streak ever without a walk!
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 27, 2021 10:01:49 GMT -5
That is a pretty intimidating pitching line for deGrom, 50k:3bb, but he does have a loss so he isn't invincible. Sox have done well with the aces this year so I hope it continues. Some of the K/BB numbers we're seeing from starting pitchers to start this season are mind boggling. Cole/DeGrom both 50:3, Bauer- 45:6. Corbin Burnes is at 49:0 which is a record to start a season and only 7K's behind Curt Schilling for longest streak ever without a walk! Fangraphs wrote an interesting article related to this. It points out deGrom but also in general pitchers are throwing more strikes (especially with fastballs), and the theory is it's because they don't fear damage as much with the deadened ball. blogs.fangraphs.com/are-pitchers-being-more-aggressive-with-the-new-ball/
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Post by semperfisox on Apr 27, 2021 10:03:50 GMT -5
Oh god Richards again already....
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Post by incandenza on Apr 27, 2021 10:14:27 GMT -5
Some of the K/BB numbers we're seeing from starting pitchers to start this season are mind boggling. Cole/DeGrom both 50:3, Bauer- 45:6. Corbin Burnes is at 49:0 which is a record to start a season and only 7K's behind Curt Schilling for longest streak ever without a walk! Fangraphs wrote an interesting article related to this. It points out deGrom but also in general pitchers are throwing more strikes (especially with fastballs), and the theory is it's because they don't fear damage as much with the deadened ball. blogs.fangraphs.com/are-pitchers-being-more-aggressive-with-the-new-ball/Hmm. If this is leading to more strikeouts that is bad for the game. But in theory maybe it should lead to more balls in play with solid contact? Which would be good for the game. I don't know if that's actually been happening though.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 27, 2021 10:24:32 GMT -5
deGrom's got nothing. No stuff, no location, no guts. Let's sack up and kick his ass. Our team is the Boston Red Sox, the MLB bad asses of the 21st century. Let's start acting like it.
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Post by Coreno on Apr 27, 2021 11:15:04 GMT -5
Oh god Richards again already.... Yes, but today he gets to hit as well as pitch. Twice the mechanics to focus on.
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Post by pedroiaesque on Apr 27, 2021 11:31:22 GMT -5
Oh god Richards again already.... Yes, but today he gets to hit as well as pitch. Twice the mechanics to focus on. I'm curious to see how Cora manages the pinch hitting and switches with such a short bench. Let's see if one of the relievers has to take an AB (maybe Andriese?).
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Post by Jimmy on Apr 27, 2021 11:35:06 GMT -5
Yes, but today he gets to hit as well as pitch. Twice the mechanics to focus on. I'm curious to see how Cora manages the pinch hitting and switches with such a short bench. Let's see if one of the relievers has to take an AB (maybe Andriese?). Seems like a good series to pull Richards or Pivetta early, pinch hit, put in Whitlock until the Sox bat around, pinch hit again, give it to the bullpen.
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Post by Canseco on Apr 27, 2021 11:59:16 GMT -5
I'm curious to see how Cora manages the pinch hitting and switches with such a short bench. Let's see if one of the relievers has to take an AB (maybe Andriese?). Seems like a good series to pull Richards or Pivetta early, pinch hit, put in Whitlock until the Sox bat around, pinch hit again, give it to the bullpen. If Houck is lined up for it, I’d love to do this with him in one game and Whitlock in the other.
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Post by manfred on Apr 27, 2021 12:05:42 GMT -5
Optimistically, the Mets lineup has guys 2 guys with a BA over .235 and an OPS+ over 100. And we have a pitcher hitting. Maybe this is a game that can help right Richards’ ship (and keep Pivetta’s progress going).
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 27, 2021 12:18:26 GMT -5
I'm curious to see how Cora manages the pinch hitting and switches with such a short bench. Let's see if one of the relievers has to take an AB (maybe Andriese?). Seems like a good series to pull Richards or Pivetta early, pinch hit, put in Whitlock until the Sox bat around, pinch hit again, give it to the bullpen. Well, the pitcher is going to come up in the top of the 3rd, tonight maybe in the top of the 2nd. You have to let him hit once, unless it's Richards and he's struggled in both innings.
The other thing ... JDM will be in LF, which luckily is also the smaller of the corners. Your three pinch-hitters are Marwin (or whoever he's starting in place of, e.g. Arroyo), who will be saved for the 3rd or 4th time around the order ... and Franchy and Renfroe. Nuff said?
Another question: do they have a pitcher who can play the OF if they also use Plawecki as a PH and then have an injury?
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Post by shagworthy on Apr 27, 2021 12:27:04 GMT -5
Oh god Richards again already.... I hope the Mets have their walking shoes on.
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Post by nomar on Apr 27, 2021 12:27:55 GMT -5
Oh god Richards again already.... I hope the Mets have their walking shoes on. Sketchers shape ups on. Beach season incoming!
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Post by nomar on Apr 27, 2021 13:29:08 GMT -5
I’ve gone out to happy hour leading into the last 2 Richards starts and I think it’s a little bit of a cheat code because it feels like I don’t dread him as much as others.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 27, 2021 13:47:04 GMT -5
David Peterson...Wasn't he one of the Sox draft picks a few years back?
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 27, 2021 13:49:58 GMT -5
He was drafted in the 28th round by the Sox in 2014, but obviously, didn't sign with them.
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Post by pedroiaesque on Apr 27, 2021 13:57:26 GMT -5
Seems like a good series to pull Richards or Pivetta early, pinch hit, put in Whitlock until the Sox bat around, pinch hit again, give it to the bullpen. Well, the pitcher is going to come up in the top of the 3rd, tonight maybe in the top of the 2nd. You have to let him hit once, unless it's Richards and he's struggled in both innings.
The other thing ... JDM will be in LF, which luckily is also the smaller of the corners. Your three pinch-hitters are Marwin (or whoever he's starting in place of, e.g. Arroyo), who will be saved for the 3rd or 4th time around the order ... and Franchy and Renfroe. Nuff said?
Another question: do they have a pitcher who can play the OF if they also use Plawecki as a PH and then have an injury?
Yeah, the early struggle is the problem. If Richards doesn't get that first AB, then you're probably using Franchy so that you can save Marwin/Arroyo and Renfroe later in the game when you'll need their defense. It's not an optimal position with the lefty/lefty matchup, of course, but I don't want them burning Renfroe early in case they want to put him in for JD late in the game for the defensive bump. If Arroyo is on the bench to start the game, he's probably your best option early.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 27, 2021 14:01:47 GMT -5
Any guesses on when the Red Sox open up the rest of May’s ticket sales with the new capacity raised limit?
The State released the 25% limit today (effective May 10) or, twice what it is now.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 27, 2021 16:32:39 GMT -5
Looking forward to GRE mudding up the start again.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 27, 2021 16:38:05 GMT -5
Mets' Peterson LHP is a good hitter, per milb stats Richards: dreadful hitter
Andriese is a lousy hitter Brice might be best 2-way pitcher. But put on weight ... not good for fielding
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