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Post by ramireja on May 16, 2021 18:26:26 GMT -5
Bello is super interesting. Good reports from instructs and minor league spring training. He's Rule 5 eligible this fall, so more starts like this could make it an easy decision for the Red Sox. That changeup is nasty and a weapon against both RH and LH bats. Improvement to his slider (and FB command?) are probably the big developmental keys for him this year, but have to like his floor with that changeup as a weapon. Of guys that could push for a top 5 ranking in the system, he seems to be an obvious pick if he builds upon his start to the season.
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Post by cdj on May 16, 2021 18:38:40 GMT -5
Was really impressed by his feel for the change up. That’s gotta be a 60 pitch
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Post by bcsox on May 16, 2021 20:15:23 GMT -5
Off speed stuff was deadly with late movement and the hitters didn’t seem to be picking it up at all. As a nitpicker a swing and a miss is a swing and a miss, but it was noted that his fastball was clocking in at 95 mph. It appeared only 2-3 of the swing and misses were on fastballs. What is the report on his fastball and is it a plus pitch?
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Post by ramireja on May 17, 2021 9:42:13 GMT -5
Off speed stuff was deadly with late movement and the hitters didn’t seem to be picking it up at all. As a nitpicker a swing and a miss is a swing and a miss, but it was noted that his fastball was clocking in at 95 mph. It appeared only 2-3 of the swing and misses were on fastballs. What is the report on his fastball and is it a plus pitch?Good question, this is what I can gather: Plus velocity, but so-so movement and spin characteristics... From here: FanGraphs: Prospects Live:
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 17, 2021 11:38:40 GMT -5
Dam......that was quite impressive! Lots of movement. I could see a high floor for him.
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Post by bcsox on May 17, 2021 11:56:21 GMT -5
thank you for the feedback Ramireja. I appreciate it.
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Post by huskies15 on May 17, 2021 12:50:29 GMT -5
Bello put together some high strikeout outings in 2019 too. Has had ups and downs, but the highs have been impressive. Intriguing guy for sure.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 18, 2021 16:53:53 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on May 18, 2021 18:14:05 GMT -5
“At least”... since Pedro? So... might be *better* than Pedro? If that is true, he should likely be about a top-5 prospect in baseball, no?
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Post by radiohix on May 18, 2021 18:25:51 GMT -5
“At least”... since Pedro? So... might be *better* than Pedro? If that is true, he should likely be about a top-5 prospect in baseball, no? It's Peter Gammons man! Love the guy and his passion for the game but he tends to go over the top with his superlatives heh
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 18, 2021 18:29:15 GMT -5
“At least”... since Pedro? So... might be *better* than Pedro? If that is true, he should likely be about a top-5 prospect in baseball, no? Where do you get might be "better than Pedro" out of that? I take it that he has the best changeup the front office official has seen in the organization since Pedro as far as he can remember, but not necessarily anywhere near as good. Gammons is known for providing the hype but if this kid puts up some numbers, then yeah, I'd guess he could jump that high in the rankings.
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Post by manfred on May 18, 2021 18:34:33 GMT -5
“At least”... since Pedro? So... might be *better* than Pedro? If that is true, he should likely be about a top-5 prospect in baseball, no? Where do you get might be "better than Pedro" out of that? I take it that he has the best changeup the front office official has seen in the organization since Pedro as far as he can remember, but not necessarily anywhere near as good. Gammons is known for providing the hype but if this kid puts up some numbers, then yeah, I'd guess he could jump that high in the rankings. I guess if he throws 97 and has a changeup so good you’d have to go back *before* Pedro to find a comp... then it seems at least close to saying he is better. My main point was this seems a tad breathless and hyperbolic. But I’m cool with being excited.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 18, 2021 18:56:45 GMT -5
“At least”... since Pedro? So... might be *better* than Pedro? If that is true, he should likely be about a top-5 prospect in baseball, no? It's Peter Gammons man! Love the guy and his passion for the game but he tends to go over the top with his superlatives heh I mean it's not Gammons that gave the superlative..
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Post by jimoh on May 19, 2021 5:58:02 GMT -5
Where do you get might be "better than Pedro" out of that? I take it that he has the best changeup the front office official has seen in the organization since Pedro as far as he can remember, but not necessarily anywhere near as good. Gammons is known for providing the hype but if this kid puts up some numbers, then yeah, I'd guess he could jump that high in the rankings. I guess if he throws 97 and has a changeup so good you’d have to go back *before* Pedro to find a comp... then it seems at least close to saying he is better. My main point was this seems a tad breathless and hyperbolic. But I’m cool with being excited. No, I see what you mean but I think you've got it wrong. There is nothing about going back before Pedro. "At least since Pedro" specifically says Pedro was better.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 19, 2021 6:15:22 GMT -5
This is semantics, but "at least since Pedro" means that at the very least, Bello has the best changeup since Pedro's and perhaps it is better. That's what that phrase means. And that's why it's pretty hard to take seriously.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 19, 2021 6:25:50 GMT -5
Just because that's what the phrase means, though, doesn't mean the front office official quoted actually meant that. I cannot imagine he did. I think the way he said "best change up he's ever seen," he then corrected himself and added "at least since Pedro" - more like saying it at least it's the best since Pedro that I've seen.
Either way super high praise and likely overblown. But from that video, that's an impressive change up.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 19, 2021 6:53:30 GMT -5
Just because that's what the phrase means, though, doesn't mean the front office official quoted actually meant that. I cannot imagine he did. I think the way he said "best change up he's ever seen," he then corrected himself and added "at least since Pedro" - more like saying it at least it's the best since Pedro that I've seen. Either way super high praise and likely overblown. But from that video, that's an impressive change up. That's how I see it as well. Best since Pedro. Keep in mind, front office guy could be the peanut vendor manager.
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Post by cdj on May 19, 2021 7:05:58 GMT -5
Yeah like I said at the top it looks like a 60 pitch to my amateur scouting eye on the video. It definitely looks like a plus pitch to me but idk if they should be comparing it to one of the best changeups ever lol
He’s certainly somebody to get excited about though
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Post by manfred on May 19, 2021 8:28:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I didn’t mean to be literal so much as to say this seems a bit hyberbolic. It just seems hard to believe a guy that good wouldn’t be the talk of minor league baseball. But it isn’t a big deal... I take the larger point that dude is developing big time.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 19, 2021 10:05:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I didn’t mean to be literal so much as to say this seems a bit hyberbolic. It just seems hard to believe a guy that good wouldn’t be the talk of minor league baseball. But it isn’t a big deal... I take the larger point that dude is developing big time. Yeah, it is a big positive to hear about a pitcher and not have the next words be, "he's more likely going to be a reliever".
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Post by foreverred9 on May 19, 2021 11:20:22 GMT -5
To take a step back out of the comparison and focus more broadly on him, that change up did look impressive in that video. I liked the downward and to the right movement it was showing. It's an encouraging development from him.
The one silver lining of missing a full season is that we get to see some players take large steps forward. I can't remember the specific book on Bello in 2019, but he's looking a lot better so far in 2021.
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Post by cdj on May 19, 2021 13:56:10 GMT -5
To take a step back out of the comparison and focus more broadly on him, that change up did look impressive in that video. I liked the downward and to the right movement it was showing. It's an encouraging development from him. The one silver lining of missing a full season is that we get to see some players take large steps forward. I can't remember the specific book on Bello in 2019, but he's looking a lot better so far in 2021. In 2019 he started off poorly but had a very good recovery/2nd half from what I recall Seems like he’s kept the momentum going
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 19, 2021 14:01:44 GMT -5
Bello in 2019:
First half - 12 starts, 52.1 IP, 8.08 ERA, 22:53 BB:K, .336 BAA Second half - 13 starts, 65.1 IP, 3.31 ERA, 16:66 BB:K, .241 BAA
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Post by ramireja on May 20, 2021 23:39:45 GMT -5
Thats now an even 20 Ks for Bello in his last two starts (10.2 IP). Man I hope this guy develops a third average pitch this year.
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Post by ramireja on May 27, 2021 12:17:09 GMT -5
Chris Blessing, who got live looks on Bello yesterday, reported he was getting swings-and-misses on his slider last night. That said, his slider and change are thrown in the same velocity band and the change has so much movement that I could see it getting mixed up with his breaking ball. Anyone want to weigh in on his pitch mix last night? I'll throw in Red Sox Stat's compilation from last night's outing in a follow-up post for reference.
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