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7/16 Gameday Thread: Tyreque Drives to Portland on High Note
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 16, 2021 7:28:23 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 16, 2021 9:02:30 GMT -5
Looks like Antoni Flores, Angel Maita and Miguel Suero have been promoted to Salem. Eduardo Lopez was placed on the IL.
ADD: that would put Salem two over the roster limit. More moves coming.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2021 9:07:25 GMT -5
Flores is kind of weird, considering he's 2B-only now and Salem's got a guy there... They wouldn't, would they?
Between this, Reed to Portland, etc., I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of moves today.
Salem might actually be at 29 with that weird Zeferjahn to the FCL transaction that may or may not have happened.
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 16, 2021 9:10:18 GMT -5
Flores has played 2B exclusively in 2021. With Nick Yorke and Matthew Lugo on the roster, there’s no everyday playing time for him. They’ve already got a backup middle infielder on the team in Jake Mackenzie. We’ll see what the other moves are. Maybe they open up some playing time.
Tinfoil hat idea: they needed to get Flores off the FCL roster to make a middle infield spot open for Marcelo Mayer. Slightly less tinfoil hat thought. Mayer and Bonaci are both SS. They’ll find a way to get both playing time if Mayer joins the team but it’ll be interesting how. Alternate off days? Get one or both time at 2B or 3B? Utilize the DH more for them? Not a big problem but something interesting to watch.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2021 9:24:09 GMT -5
Yeah I don't think they'd necessarily make the transaction today to get Mayer on the roster though.
It legit might just be that Flores is a backup now and he's getting promoted to Salem as such too. That .167 average with no XBH line in the very small sample size so far wasn't screaming promotion.
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Post by radiohix on Jul 16, 2021 9:36:23 GMT -5
Tinfoil hat idea: they needed to get Flores off the FCL roster to make a middle infield spot open for Marcelo Mayer. Slightly less tinfoil hat thought. Mayer and Bonaci are both SS. They’ll find a way to get both playing time if Mayer joins the team but it’ll be interesting how. Alternate off days? Get one or both time at 2B or 3B? Utilize the DH more for them? Not a big problem but something interesting to watch. Bonaci played some 3rd base in the DSL so being moved around is not a new thing to him. Mayer will play exclusively at SS and maybe DH a few days but they won't move him around.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 16, 2021 9:36:58 GMT -5
Jean Carlos Reyes getting the start for DSL Blue.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 16, 2021 9:48:52 GMT -5
And Starlin Santos for DSL Red. Still no Bleis...assuming an injury of some sort.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2021 10:39:00 GMT -5
Henry Nunez going in the FCL today.
Does seem like they're going to screw around with the rotation to make sure the same guys aren't facing the Twins every week.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 16, 2021 11:02:30 GMT -5
Tinfoil hat idea: they needed to get Flores off the FCL roster to make a middle infield spot open for Marcelo Mayer. Slightly less tinfoil hat thought. Mayer and Bonaci are both SS. They’ll find a way to get both playing time if Mayer joins the team but it’ll be interesting how. Alternate off days? Get one or both time at 2B or 3B? Utilize the DH more for them? Not a big problem but something interesting to watch. Bonaci played some 3rd base in the DSL so being moved around is not a new thing to him. Mayer will play exclusively at SS and maybe DH a few days but they won't move him around. I would put Mayer's probability of playing anywhere but at SS, even up to AA, at 0.0. He's worth too much to the club for them to announce to the world that he might not be a SS.
Unless he completely butchers the position, which seems pretty unlikely.
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Post by stevedillard on Jul 16, 2021 11:07:40 GMT -5
Have to say, while there's not a Jasson Dominguez shooting through the system, the idea of spacing the money around leaves us DSL watchers a whole host of kids to dream on. The day before yesterday was Salazar, and Lira, the catcher. Yesterday it was Liendo, the 2B I had not monitored, who signed for 400K, and today Castro. We haven't even seen Cruz or Bleis, and James and Rivello are not yet popping.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2021 11:15:50 GMT -5
Cruz is in the FCL, FYI (you're right he hasn't pitched yet though - just making sure you're keeping an eye on the right boxes for him).
EDIT: Right on cue, made his debut today.
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Post by vokuhila on Jul 16, 2021 11:29:40 GMT -5
Bonaci played some 3rd base in the DSL so being moved around is not a new thing to him. Mayer will play exclusively at SS and maybe DH a few days but they won't move him around. I would put Mayer's probability of playing anywhere but at SS, even up to AA, at 0.0. He's worth too much to the club for them to announce to the world that he might not be a SS.
Unless he completely butchers the position, which seems pretty unlikely.
The front office has shown how much they value positional flexibility. I would be surprised if they don't give Mayer a couple of games at 2B and/or 3B along the way just for him to get a feel for the positions. They would "announce to the world" that they think he is capable of playing multiple positions. I don't see the downside in that.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2021 12:40:23 GMT -5
There are players they expose to multiple positions, but for a top prospect like Mayer, they typically develop them only at the up-the-middle positions they're likely to play in the majors. Typically, with a guy like Mayer, they leave him at SS for as long as possible to get as many reps as possible. If it looks like he's not going to be able to handle the position full-time or if his path to playing time in Boston looks like it might be at another position, then yeah they'll get him some time at 2B or 3B. But Bogaerts played nothing but SS the whole way up. JBJ essentially played nothing but CF until he debuted. Etc.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 16, 2021 12:57:19 GMT -5
In classic DSL fashion, DSL Blue won despite their pitching staff walking 10 batters in a 7 inning game.
Ronald Rosario is on fire to start the season, with a 3-4 game today. Lyonnell James also with a 2-4, 2B game.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 16, 2021 13:00:14 GMT -5
Cruz is in the FCL, FYI (you're right he hasn't pitched yet though - just making sure you're keeping an eye on the right boxes for him). EDIT: Right on cue, made his debut today. Interesting that Cruz only got one inning. Maybe a way to get everyone innings? I thought he would have been groomed as a starter.
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Post by ramireja on Jul 16, 2021 13:02:50 GMT -5
In classic DSL fashion, DSL Blue won despite their pitching staff walking 10 batters in a 7 inning game. Ronald Rosario is on fire to start the season, with a 3-4 game today. Lyonnell James also with a 2-4, 2B game. You often see a lot of timeshares at the C position in the DSL an GCL/FSL, but they've really locked him into the 3-hole and C position early on. Interesting guy for me with his start to the season..
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Post by vokuhila on Jul 16, 2021 13:23:00 GMT -5
There are players they expose to multiple positions, but for a top prospect like Mayer, they typically develop them only at the up-the-middle positions they're likely to play in the majors. Typically, with a guy like Mayer, they leave him at SS for as long as possible to get as many reps as possible. If it looks like he's not going to be able to handle the position full-time or if his path to playing time in Boston looks like it might be at another position, then yeah they'll get him some time at 2B or 3B. But Bogaerts played nothing but SS the whole way up. JBJ essentially played nothing but CF until he debuted. Etc. If Theo was the GM is would agree, it certainly is the "conventional way". Let's see how Chaim handles it
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2021 13:26:41 GMT -5
There are players they expose to multiple positions, but for a top prospect like Mayer, they typically develop them only at the up-the-middle positions they're likely to play in the majors. Typically, with a guy like Mayer, they leave him at SS for as long as possible to get as many reps as possible. If it looks like he's not going to be able to handle the position full-time or if his path to playing time in Boston looks like it might be at another position, then yeah they'll get him some time at 2B or 3B. But Bogaerts played nothing but SS the whole way up. JBJ essentially played nothing but CF until he debuted. Etc. If Theo was the GM is would agree, it certainly is the "conventional way". Let's see how Chaim handles it I mean, it's basically the same player development apparatus. Meanwhile, for comparison's sake, Franco played nothing but shortstop until this season. When you've got a guy who's a potential everyday MLB shortstop, you don't usually waste his time giving him reps at second base or third base. It's hard enough to learn to play short, y'know?
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 16, 2021 13:34:53 GMT -5
Between Bleis, Chacon, Lira, Jhostnyxon, Rosario, Lyonell, Johnfrank Salazar, Liendo, Castro, and Ravelo there’s a ton of guys in the DSL to watch out for. That’s not even counting the pitchers. Probably going to be one of the most exciting DSL seasons in awhile with essentially two international classes rolled into one.
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Post by vokuhila on Jul 16, 2021 13:44:37 GMT -5
If Theo was the GM is would agree, it certainly is the "conventional way". Let's see how Chaim handles it I mean, it's basically the same player development apparatus. Meanwhile, for comparison's sake, Franco played nothing but shortstop until this season. When you've got a guy who's a potential everyday MLB shortstop, you don't usually waste his time giving him reps at second base or third base. It's hard enough to learn to play short, y'know? But...doesn't the Wander Franco example support my point? He got time at 2B aswell as 3B this year in AAA.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 16, 2021 14:15:49 GMT -5
In AAA. Not in the low minors.
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Post by ramireja on Jul 16, 2021 14:29:30 GMT -5
Miguel Ugueto with a 3-hit day that included a 2B and SB. He's done well so far in the FSL with limited opportunities despite being the only position player stateside from the 2019-2020 IFA signing class.
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Post by stevedillard on Jul 16, 2021 14:44:28 GMT -5
You often see a lot of timeshares at the C position in the DSL an GCL/FSL, but they've really locked him into the 3-hole and C position early on. Interesting guy for me with his start to the season.. Reading tea leaves, too: Interesting that they put the two high bonus catchers (Lira and Avila) on the same team, leaving Rosario as the main catcher on the other team. I'm seeing a lot in the first week of JohnFrank Salazar, the average, bit of power, and the eye.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 16, 2021 14:48:07 GMT -5
You often see a lot of timeshares at the C position in the DSL an GCL/FSL, but they've really locked him into the 3-hole and C position early on. Interesting guy for me with his start to the season.. Reading tea leaves, too: Interesting that they put the two high bonus catchers (Lira and Avila) on the same team, leaving Rosario as the main catcher on the other team. This is what genuine plus plus DSL box score scouting tool looks like.
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