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Jul 23, 2021 11:58:29 GMT -5
Post by fanofredsox on Jul 23, 2021 11:58:29 GMT -5
Garrett Richards & Bryan Bello for Matt Beaty & Landon Knack
Dodgers take on all remaining money owed to Richards. Loosing Bello hurts but it helps the rule 5 crunch & the Sox get Knack & a LH bat to platoon at 1B
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Jul 23, 2021 12:10:21 GMT -5
Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 23, 2021 12:10:21 GMT -5
Garrett Richards & Bryan Bello for Matt Beaty & Landon Knack Dodgers take on all remaining money owed to Richards. Loosing Bello hurts but it helps the rule 5 crunch & the Sox get Knack & a LH bat to platoon at 1B I'm not sure why you want to get rid of Bello so bad. Knack is 24 and in A ball. Bello is 22 and doing well in AA ball. I wouldn't make that swap. And the upgrade to Matt Beaty certainly isn't worth that. And I wouldn't even throw in Richards, unless it was Richards for Beaty straight up. Just no.
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Jul 23, 2021 12:22:10 GMT -5
Post by fanofredsox on Jul 23, 2021 12:22:10 GMT -5
I don’t think he gets added to the 40 man & I think at best he is a bubble candidate to be added. Also, I think he gets picked in the rule 5 draft. So I’d rather see the team get something for him. Including him with Richards to the Dodgers gets them to take on all of Richards remaining $$. And the team gets back a great prospect in Knack along with Beaty who might not be anything special but would help as a LH bat at 1B & is under control for 4 (I believe) more years. I know you love all the prospects the Sox have and believe they will all be contributors. I feel differently.
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Jul 23, 2021 12:34:00 GMT -5
Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 23, 2021 12:34:00 GMT -5
I don’t think he gets added to the 40 man & I think at best he is a bubble candidate to be added. Also, I think he gets picked in the rule 5 draft. So I’d rather see the team get something for him. Including him with Richards to the Dodgers gets them to take on all of Richards remaining $$. And the team gets back a great prospect in Knack along with Beaty who might not be anything special but would help as a LH bat at 1B & is under control for 4 (I believe) more years. I know you love all the prospects the Sox have and believe they will all be contributors. I feel differently. I think you're very wrong re: Bello. I think from everything I read, they are very impressed with his stuff, his changeup, his fastball, and his results have been solid as he's taken a big step forward, and he's still only 22. Guys like that are known as legit prospects, not bubble candidates for the 40 man roster. And don't typecast me as a prospect hugger. I was in favor of most of the trades Dombrowski made, but I realize that if you kill your farm system for the marginal upgrades (and some of them are not) that you constantly suggest it's a good way to destroy a franchise. So no I don't love all the prospects the Sox have. I expect them to deal some of the bubble candidates, and depending on the return, can be quite in favor of it, for the 40 but Bello isn't one of those. If they're trading Bello they're getting more for him than freakin' Matt Beaty and a 24 year old in A ball. As it is I anticipate Marcus Wilson, Jeisson Rosario, Pedro Castellanos will be traded, and if so, fine. I suspect one of Winckowski or Kutter Crawford could go. Depending on the return, maybe Groome, but more likely the Sox might think he's putting it together and he is first round talent, so they might see him as part of the future. I mean, really, do you think the Sox should be giving out big contracts to sign starting pitching? How do you expect them to fill out the rotation without overspending? Good young pitching is important and for once the Sox are intent on developing them.
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Jul 23, 2021 12:37:38 GMT -5
Post by fanofredsox on Jul 23, 2021 12:37:38 GMT -5
Also, I believe that all the prospects in the organization are here to improve the big league club either through contributing or by being a piece to be moved to get someone to contribute. I think this years club has a chance to have a special year and it could use some help. I think Bello ( and Jimenez) can help with that goal. I also believe that if the Sox were to acquire Knack that he would slot right into the #4 spot in the rankings.
agree to disagree. Please move on & stop badgering me.
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Jul 23, 2021 12:40:54 GMT -5
Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 23, 2021 12:40:54 GMT -5
Also, I believe that all the prospects in the organization are here to improve the big league club either through contributing or by being a piece to be moved to get someone to contribute. I think this years club has a chance to have a special year and it could use some help. I think Bello ( and Jimenez) can help with that goal. I also believe that if the Sox were to acquire Knack that he would slot right into the #4 spot in the rankings. agree to disagree. Please move on & stop badgering me. I agree to disagree and will stop "badgering" you on your mostly inane trade proposals.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 23, 2021 13:02:12 GMT -5
Bello is almost guaranteed to be added to the 40. Contrary to your belief, prospects don't exist just to be traded to add random average major leaguers.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 23, 2021 13:03:55 GMT -5
Also, I believe that all the prospects in the organization are here to improve the big league club either through contributing or by being a piece to be moved to get someone to contribute. I think this years club has a chance to have a special year and it could use some help. I think Bello ( and Jimenez) can help with that goal. I also believe that if the Sox were to acquire Knack that he would slot right into the #4 spot in the rankings. agree to disagree. Please move on & stop badgering me. He responded to your post, this is a message board after all.
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 23, 2021 13:19:40 GMT -5
Bello is a lock to be added. 0% chance he doesn’t unless his arm literally falls off. The only way I’m ok with Bello getting traded is if he’s the centerpiece of a trade for a young, established, and controllable starting pitcher. Since that’s not likely to happen, I don’t think Bello should go anywhere. Next year he will be major league depth with the potential to stick in a rotation. That’s not the type of prospect you trade unless it’s for a major piece. As for Knack, there’s absolutely no way he’s the #4 prospect in this system. That’s just ludicrous. As it was said above, he’s 24 and in A-ball.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 23, 2021 13:21:11 GMT -5
Also, I believe that all the prospects in the organization are here to improve the big league club either through contributing or by being a piece to be moved to get someone to contribute. I think this years club has a chance to have a special year and it could use some help. I think Bello ( and Jimenez) can help with that goal. I also believe that if the Sox were to acquire Knack that he would slot right into the #4 spot in the rankings. agree to disagree. Please move on & stop badgering me. He responded to your post, this is a message board after all. Thanks. A more interesting conversation would be why Knack, who is 2 years older and in A ball, with good numbers, would the #4 prospect on the Sox if he were acquired but Bello is fungible.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 23, 2021 13:25:20 GMT -5
He responded to your post, this is a message board after all. Thanks. A more interesting conversation would be why Knack, who is 2 years older and in A ball, with good numbers, would the #4 prospect on the Sox if he were acquired but Bello is fungible. Another question is why the heck would we want Matt Beaty. We have our own first baseman with a negative WAR.
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Dodgers
Jul 23, 2021 15:29:16 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Jul 23, 2021 15:29:16 GMT -5
Let's trade for Knack, and then trade Knack for Eric Hosmer.
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