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Post by nomar on Aug 31, 2021 17:44:46 GMT -5
I’ll take Brad Hand for sure.
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Post by voiceofreason on Aug 31, 2021 17:58:10 GMT -5
OK so if the Rays are a better team, which I am not arguing against, how do they actually measure up position to position? If you look at it as you who would you trade heads up player for player at each position? And that is for right now not the next 5 years as that is immaterial at this moment. Like Xander vs Wander. The Sox win that scenario easily so why is TBay better? Defense would be a reason but that is only 14 errors difference on the season. They have scored 30 some odd more runs and given up 74 fewer ER. Walked 67 more times and given up 94 fewer walks. Hmm could that be it? Plate discipline and pitchers throwing strikes. I think this an example of TBay doing what the Sox have done with Houck this year along with the rest of the staff. TBay has been doing it for a long time now so the pitching staff has bought in and they are the best at it. Eleven different guys have saves and the Sox actually have more QS on the season than them. This is how they have been able to have just as good a record as the Sox over the last 15 seasons. Now just think how good the Sox could be with this strategy but with a budget of 120 million more. Yes I did just find a silver lining to this whole "they are better than us" topic, maybe. As someone pointed out the other day, every time Houck leaves guys on base when he is pulled they all score. Controversial I know and the Sox pen is depleted but why not just embrace the limited inning strategy and not push for more from your starters, which is when they fall apart. Build a staff that can handle it with multiple 2,3,4,5 inning guys to supplement the Sales and Eovoldies of the world. Face it in todays game their are very few pitchers who make it thru the lineup 3 times and give a solid 7, why fight it. Why have 5 guys that can only go 1 inning or less at times. TBay has proven time and again that this strategy works and our GM is the pioneer of it so I think it is safe to say the future is here, time to embrace it. LOL this reminds me of a time when Grady left Pedro in back in 03. The Rays offense is nearly identical to the Yankees. It's a bunch of guys who don't hit for average but hit HR and walk a lot. This is apparently the three outcomes MLB wants. Which is weird because the theory is that approach is hurting the game. The Rays team average is .240. Take Zunino their catcher as an example. He's hitting .201 but has 27 HR and an .846 OBPS. This is the sort of model which MLB rewards. Long tedious AB, lots of walks and lots of HR. Look around MLB. The Red Sox have 407 BB. Tampa has 481 BB NYY have 526 BB SUCKS, but true. Like all things in sports it could change.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 31, 2021 18:00:20 GMT -5
The Rays offense is nearly identical to the Yankees. It's a bunch of guys who don't hit for average but hit HR and walk a lot. This is apparently the three outcomes MLB wants. Which is weird because the theory is that approach is hurting the game. The Rays team average is .240. Take Zunino their catcher as an example. He's hitting .201 but has 27 HR and an .846 OBPS. This is the sort of model which MLB rewards. Long tedious AB, lots of walks and lots of HR. Look around MLB. The Red Sox have 407 BB. Tampa has 481 BB NYY have 526 BB SUCKS, but true. Like all things in sports it could change. The league will do something about it within the next 3 years. And god help us.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 31, 2021 18:00:57 GMT -5
Meanwhile, they optioned Espinal and have an open spot on the 26. I'm assuming Schreiber will be selected.
Double meanwhile, rosters expand by 2 tomorrow. Brasier might be on a plane, and maybe Santana as well, or they could recall Wong.
Stephen Gonsalves is up for Sawamura.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 31, 2021 18:08:00 GMT -5
Dalbec is top 2% in the entire league for barrel %.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 31, 2021 18:22:59 GMT -5
The league will do something about it within the next 3 years. And god help us. What can they do? They tried messing with the balls both ways and banned the spitball so fools could put the ball in play. They toyed with the idea of lowering the mound and banning shifts, but seriously? That would be amateur hour. MEANWHILE, Xander FINALLY punishes that shit Yarbrough is throwing. God I hate the Rays.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 31, 2021 18:39:08 GMT -5
Xander has been replaced by Munoz
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 31, 2021 18:40:26 GMT -5
Xander has been replaced by Munoz oh no ..COVID??? who's next?
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 31, 2021 18:40:32 GMT -5
Sounds like a COVID issue with Xander
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 31, 2021 18:43:01 GMT -5
Sounds like a COVID issue with Xander Either that or he pulled something running the bases on his single.
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Post by cdj on Aug 31, 2021 18:43:05 GMT -5
Time is a flat circle
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 31, 2021 18:44:13 GMT -5
Sounds like a COVID issue with Xander He was pulled off the field at the beginning of the inning.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 31, 2021 18:44:34 GMT -5
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 31, 2021 18:47:45 GMT -5
Peacock has been fine. 26 pitches. All they could ask for. 1 more inning?
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 31, 2021 18:56:01 GMT -5
Sounds like a COVID issue with Xander Either that or he pulled something running the bases on his single. Cora called him off the field, not the other way around. No indication of anything wrong during his single on the NESN replay
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Post by cdj on Aug 31, 2021 19:00:46 GMT -5
Cora pressing the wrong button again IMO, need to get him out of here
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Post by cdj on Aug 31, 2021 19:03:55 GMT -5
They’re blaming Verdugo for that but shouldn’t the SS be out there?
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Post by congusgambler33 on Aug 31, 2021 19:06:40 GMT -5
this is classic Sox. Walk, HBP, Walk. That is how this team feeds off of the Sox all the time.
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Post by cdj on Aug 31, 2021 19:07:13 GMT -5
Yeah sure leave the guy who can’t throw a strike in to face the prodigy
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Post by cdj on Aug 31, 2021 19:07:37 GMT -5
Oh who could have ever predicted this?
SLOPPY SHOP
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 31, 2021 19:08:52 GMT -5
A's up 3-1
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Post by patford on Aug 31, 2021 19:08:58 GMT -5
The league will do something about it within the next 3 years. And god help us. What can they do? They tried messing with the balls both ways and banned the spitball so fools could put the ball in play. They toyed with the idea of lowering the mound and banning shifts, but seriously? That would be amateur hour. MEANWHILE, Xander FINALLY punishes that shit Yarbrough is throwing. God I hate the Rays. Robot umps. Simple. No excuse not to make the move as all sorts of idiotic things have been done. Extra innings man of 2nd. Seven inning double headers.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 31, 2021 19:09:18 GMT -5
oh my. this will not be a happy evening
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Post by aznpopsical on Aug 31, 2021 19:09:20 GMT -5
we're a triple a team compares to the rays
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 31, 2021 19:09:27 GMT -5
We look awful....there is no other way to see it.
I've lost that lovin' feeling.....whoa.....(you know the rest)
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