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Post by Don Caballero on May 25, 2022 6:59:45 GMT -5
I'm also shocked about the Heat, crazy series. This isn't specifically directed at you my man, but I think Celtics fans overall should stop with the idea that the Heat team is bad. They're not. They have some really good players, great depth, one of the best coaches in the league and they just give teams so many different looks. I definitely think they're tougher than the Nets or the Bucks without Middleton.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 25, 2022 8:42:44 GMT -5
Halfway through the 4th quarter I’m pretty sure they went with Theis, Pritchard, Nesmith, White, Grant and then subbed in Fitts, Stauskas, and Morgan with a couple min left….perhaps that’s the reason they *only* won by 20 and didn’t extend the lead The heat never had a chance last night. If people think they had a chance at any point last night they were looking for something that wasn’t there. Miami was DOA last night. Offense non-existent. That's the problem, the end of our bench sucks compared to the Heat. Kornet, Fitts and Morgan shouldn't be dressed for a playoff game or on the roster frankly. I don't see how that matters, like it's okay because it didn't matter. We've seen it matter in the playoffs and it's my Ime was so hot.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 25, 2022 8:49:35 GMT -5
I'm also shocked about the Heat, crazy series. This isn't specifically directed at you my man, but I think Celtics fans overall should stop with the idea that the Heat team is bad. They're not. They have some really good players, great depth, one of the best coaches in the league and they just give teams so many different looks. I definitely think they're tougher than the Nets or the Bucks without Middleton. It's not that, there a good team, we are clearly more talented. It was their effort last game. I don't remember the 2020 heat team ever playing like that. It's like only Martin and VO came to play. It's funny I'm glad there playing Lowry, Vincent seems better. Their coach isn't looking like one of the best in the NBA right now.
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Post by cdj on May 25, 2022 9:09:59 GMT -5
Halfway through the 4th quarter I’m pretty sure they went with Theis, Pritchard, Nesmith, White, Grant and then subbed in Fitts, Stauskas, and Morgan with a couple min left….perhaps that’s the reason they *only* won by 20 and didn’t extend the lead The heat never had a chance last night. If people think they had a chance at any point last night they were looking for something that wasn’t there. Miami was DOA last night. Offense non-existent. That's the problem, the end of our bench sucks compared to the Heat. Kornet, Fitts and Morgan shouldn't be dressed for a playoff game or on the roster frankly. I don't see how that matters, like it's okay because it didn't matter. We've seen it matter in the playoffs and it's my Ime was so hot. I think you’re looking too hard into garbage players playing in garbage time against another teams garbage players (who are better than our garbage players by a lot)
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Post by rjp313jr on May 25, 2022 9:19:56 GMT -5
That's the problem, the end of our bench sucks compared to the Heat. Kornet, Fitts and Morgan shouldn't be dressed for a playoff game or on the roster frankly. I don't see how that matters, like it's okay because it didn't matter. We've seen it matter in the playoffs and it's my Ime was so hot. I think you’re looking too hard into garbage players playing in garbage time against another teams garbage players (who are better than our garbage players by a lot) The garbage players do matter tho. It means you still need to play your stars 34 minutes in a blowout or a guy like Horford 33 minutes. I’m surprised Theis didn’t play more, especially when Bam only played 28 minutes.
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Post by voiceofreason on May 25, 2022 9:42:33 GMT -5
The garbage players mean very little and only play in a lopsided game with minutes left, no impact. Players 6 thru 9 matter and depending on health during this playoff run the C's have had the upper hand off the bench.
What matters is defensive intensity and that is hard to maintain with a every other night off schedule. It is no surprise to see these games decided by which team is healthier and playing great D, which seems to be happening every other game. I think the wily Heat realize this and kind of mailed the last game in knowing the series would go to a best out of 3 with them having 2 home games. It isn't as much intentional as it is psychological on the defensive end. Bottom line for the C's now after 4 games is they need to realize that if they don't turn the ball over the Heat are unable to score efficiently in the halfcourt. So take care of the ball, move the ball and stop dribbling into the teeth and play D. I think they can do that and take the series but health could end up being a deciding factor.
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Post by ianrs on May 25, 2022 10:29:34 GMT -5
I'm all on board for Celtics in 6 if we have one of Timelord or Smart today. If we lose I'm not going to blame them missing their starting PG and PF.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 25, 2022 11:41:04 GMT -5
That's the problem, the end of our bench sucks compared to the Heat. Kornet, Fitts and Morgan shouldn't be dressed for a playoff game or on the roster frankly. I don't see how that matters, like it's okay because it didn't matter. We've seen it matter in the playoffs and it's my Ime was so hot. I think you’re looking too hard into garbage players playing in garbage time against another teams garbage players (who are better than our garbage players by a lot) I don't, Smart gets injured we get Nesmith, who's next after him? A guy who shouldn't be seeing the floor to begin with, yet go one more player and it gets crazy bad. They did a crap job building the bottom of that roster after those trades. Were not even talking guys 13-15 not dressing or two way guys here, they are dressing for playoff games. It needs to be addressed next year, like you said look at the Heat, they are so much better. They can throw legit fresh NBA players at you, we got so so G league guys. Going forward, the way Stevens keeps trading 1st round picks, we need to be the Heat developing good young talent from 2nd round and undrafted guys.
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Post by cdj on May 25, 2022 12:39:37 GMT -5
Yeah I just can’t pretend to care about a 30 point lead dwindling to 20 in the last 5 minutes of a 4 quarter blowout and find that to be concerning. There was nothing about that game that concerned me, if they play like that the rest of the playoffs they’ll win the championship
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Post by philarhody on May 25, 2022 13:50:28 GMT -5
Tonight will be Miami’s best punch yet. I think Miami knows this is a must win. They totally gave up in game 4.
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Post by ianrs on May 25, 2022 14:38:26 GMT -5
It's kind of incredible how much better a fit Pritchard is for this team versus Schröder. His spacing & scoring is crucial in bursts for our offense.
I've been really impressed with his offensive patience, decision-making, motor, relocation ability, surprising strength, and hardworking defense for his size.
There were handfuls of VanVleet comparisons for him when he was drafted, which I didn't really buy at the time. I'm not sure he'll ever get to that level (one or few time all star, starter on a good team) but it's really starting to come together for him.
Pritchard is consistently knocked for his size, but he's actually an inch taller than VanVleet at 6'1 and has a larger wingspan by a few inches as well at 6'4. Been really awesome to see his progression as a player and think he's going to keep improving.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 25, 2022 15:18:43 GMT -5
Yeah I just can’t pretend to care about a 30 point lead dwindling to 20 in the last 5 minutes of a 4 quarter blowout and find that to be concerning. There was nothing about that game that concerned me, if they play like that the rest of the playoffs they’ll win the championship You shouldn’t care about that, but you should care that it takes a 30 point lead with 5 minutes to go for those guys to see the court. I have no question this team will attract better veteran minimum guys going forward and oddly enough, I do think Haussers injury affects the depth as I think he could actually play some of these minutes.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 25, 2022 15:19:54 GMT -5
Should we be making anything of the rumors from yesterday that 2 Heat players got COVID and couldn’t fly back with the team and then today they cancelled their morning shoot around. There’s silence out of there, it’s weird. It’s probably nothing but it’s weird
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Post by philarhody on May 25, 2022 15:59:30 GMT -5
Should we be making anything of the rumors from yesterday that 2 Heat players got COVID and couldn’t fly back with the team and then today they cancelled their morning shoot around. There’s silence out of there, it’s weird. It’s probably nothing but it’s weird I thought it was two Heat staffers, not players. That’s interesting.
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Post by philarhody on May 25, 2022 16:02:00 GMT -5
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 25, 2022 16:52:38 GMT -5
Seems big Rob is likely to play tonight. Any latest news on Smart? Last I read still "questionable"
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Post by ianrs on May 25, 2022 17:08:26 GMT -5
Timelord is more important than Smart even though Smart is also very good; you take 20 minutes of Timelord any game you can in this Heat series. Timelord really is the key to the rest of this playoff run.
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 25, 2022 18:55:28 GMT -5
Full line up. No excuses. Smart and Williams good to go.
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Post by ianrs on May 25, 2022 19:54:43 GMT -5
Marcus looks extremely hobbled and tentative out there. Give him 10-15 and get in a body with energy.
Really don't like the continued iso from Jaylen early. Get an offense going please.
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Post by wcp3 on May 25, 2022 19:57:39 GMT -5
White is a completely different player when he isn’t terrified to shoot.
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 25, 2022 19:58:15 GMT -5
Really odd start to the game- both teams tight? Choppy offense both teams
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Post by ianrs on May 25, 2022 19:58:31 GMT -5
White is a completely different player when he isn’t terrified to shoot. He looks like a completely different player when he's aggressive. The highlights from his career game against the Nuggets in the playoffs are telling. I feel like he's been trying to not step on toes and be a 3 guy but we really need his rim pressure like this.
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Post by jimed14 on May 25, 2022 19:58:48 GMT -5
White is a completely different player when he isn’t terrified to shoot. Like this start. Up 7 and still haven't even started to hit shots.
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Post by ianrs on May 25, 2022 20:00:27 GMT -5
Really odd start to the game- both teams tight? Choppy offense both teams I really think both teams are exhausted and beat up - maybe trying to conserve energy? At the same time the choppy offense comes from incredibly good defense on both sides.
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Post by philarhody on May 25, 2022 20:00:34 GMT -5
This looks like the 6am old man run at the YMCA.
Jimmy Butler ain’t right. He’s too much of a warrior to complain or show it. But the Celtics lack effort on defense right now and he’s not able to exploit.
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