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4/4 ML Gameday Thread: Minor League Opening Day
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Post by slyfox on Apr 4, 2013 21:01:53 GMT -5
By the way, the REPORTING on this site is nice, but please disclose nobody on Staff is a qualified baseball scout/evaluator Thanks Considering Mellen is employed by Baseball Prospectus; I am pretty sure h eis qualified, also all of the other player evaluators on the staff do insightful and 'qualified' work.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 4, 2013 21:26:41 GMT -5
AA Portland, the Org will look past the hitting, lack off, but the pitching, and who lays the eggs is an issue, and the holes in the gloves. OK to like tools from prospects, and 97mph velocity, but fast and flat "throwers" are not pitchers. DUI and a headcase.........time will tell By the way, the REPORTING on this site is nice, but please disclose nobody on Staff is a qualified baseball scout/evaluator Thanks How is the view from up there?
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Post by jmei on Apr 4, 2013 21:30:27 GMT -5
AA Portland, the Org will look past the hitting, lack off, but the pitching, and who lays the eggs is an issue, and the holes in the gloves. OK to like tools from prospects, and 97mph velocity, but fast and flat "throwers" are not pitchers. DUI and a headcase.........time will tell By the way, the REPORTING on this site is nice, but please disclose nobody on Staff is a qualified baseball scout/evaluator Thanks The "Thanks" was a nice touch.
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Post by beasleyrockah on Apr 4, 2013 22:48:11 GMT -5
AA Portland, the Org will look past the hitting, lack off, but the pitching, and who lays the eggs is an issue, and the holes in the gloves. OK to like tools from prospects, and 97mph velocity, but fast and flat "throwers" are not pitchers. DUI and a headcase.........time will tell By the way, the REPORTING on this site is nice, but please disclose nobody on Staff is a qualified baseball scout/evaluator Thanks This read like something Charlie Kelly would write so the snark is extra hilarious.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 4, 2013 23:01:29 GMT -5
By the way, the REPORTING on this site is nice, but please disclose nobody on Staff is a qualified baseball scout/evaluatorHow do you even determine that? Who would be an example of someone who is "qualified" scout?
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Post by mainesox on Apr 5, 2013 0:54:20 GMT -5
AA Portland, the Org will look past the hitting, lack off, but the pitching, and who lays the eggs is an issue, and the holes in the gloves. OK to like tools from prospects, and 97mph velocity, but fast and flat "throwers" are not pitchers. DUI and a headcase.........time will tell By the way, the REPORTING on this site is nice, but please disclose nobody on Staff is a qualified baseball scout/evaluator Thanks Also, on top of what everyone else has already said, one more time in English would be nice. Thanks
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Post by quintanariffic on Apr 5, 2013 1:53:53 GMT -5
By the way, the REPORTING on this site is nice, but please disclose nobody on Staff is a qualified baseball scout/evaluator Thanks This will end well. PS - Could someone tell me how to get the text I see on the forum left justified? It's all center justified for me and is maddening. Is there some sort of control panel with settings? Sincerely, Confused
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Post by burythehammer on Apr 5, 2013 6:04:29 GMT -5
I thought it was a haiku?
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 5, 2013 6:13:01 GMT -5
Five infield errors, two passed balls and four home runs allowed does not make for a great opener for Portland.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Apr 5, 2013 6:30:28 GMT -5
I caught the last couple of innings 8th on of the Pawsox game. Our local ABC affiliate broadcast the game. Alex Wilson looked good. They didn't have a gun. Not sure about speed. In the bottom of the 9th with the game on the line. He gave up a leadoff double. Struck out Melky Mesa(He whiffed 5x), IBB and struck out Austin Romine for the 2nd out and fly out to center to get out of the jam.
In top of the 10th, Hazelbaker crushed a ball to deep left-center, more towards center. Over 400ft. Lavarnway drove a double to deep right center after Sutton walked to drive in another. I saw a couple of Lavarnway's ab's clicking around earlier and he struggled. 4 K's. 3rd one was swinging at a pitch down and low out of the strike zone and on the 4th one he took a fastball right down the middle. Brentz double was an absolute frozen rope. A lot like Vernon Wells homer the other night. Had topspin on it and never got it high enough. Got to the wall in a nano second. One of his three hits was a swinging bunt to third. Didn't see the first.
Oh, and when Anthony Carter comes in to pitch, I'd head towards the beer stand. He's given a 5 run lead. Gives up two singles and no biggie. But, then walks the next two batters on 8 pitches with a 5 run lead making it 8-4 and brings the tying run to the plate. He struck out the side to end it. Heart attack closer outing for sure. For no reason.
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Post by raftsox on Apr 5, 2013 7:42:06 GMT -5
Does anyone else find it a bit annoying (and likely hyprcritical) that people are so up in arms about Britton's DUI? Yeah he was stupid, but how many of haven't driven when we were drunk? And most of us, afterwards said "holy uhhh... poo, I'm never doing that again". Get off your high horses people.
On topic now: I've been at the front of the Britton bandwagon since he was drafted, but his inconsistency is frustrating. I'm starting to put him in the Craig Hansen category of good stuff with no control or consistency. Sigh. I'm thinking he has 4-6 starts to prove he's got it before they convert him to the 'pen.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 5, 2013 8:07:18 GMT -5
Raft, there's a huge difference between driving after having too many and driving wrecklessly. I'm all for second chances and forgiveness, but giving him the opening day start after that doesn't look good. Anyone else could have made it. I'm not going to pretend that we know how e was diclned, if at all, but hopefully something was done.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 5, 2013 8:10:22 GMT -5
Does anyone else find it a bit annoying (and likely hyprcritical) that people are so up in arms about Britton's DUI? Yeah he was stupid, but how many of haven't driven when we were drunk? And most of us, afterwards said "holy uhhh... poo, I'm never doing that again". Get off your high horses people. I generally agree that people are a bit self-righteous when it comes to player morality, but I agree with the masses here. Unlike PEDs or supposed greed, it wouldn't surprise me if posters here actually have been negatively affected by a drunk driver. What Britton did was serious.
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Post by jdb on Apr 5, 2013 8:27:19 GMT -5
Also it wasnt having 8 beers when your limit is 4 to drive. He had enough to go 110 MPH running from the police dodging traffic and putting others at risk. I forget the prospects name but he was suspended last year but Britton wasnt bc he could help the big club in a few months either in the pen or via a trade. Thats what gets me.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 5, 2013 8:29:03 GMT -5
That's not why Britton wasn't suspended. Britton is on the 40-man roster, so he's subject to MLBPA rules - the team can't just suspend him.
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Post by raftsox on Apr 5, 2013 8:41:06 GMT -5
Also it wasnt having 8 beers when your limit is 4 to drive. He had enough to go 110 MPH running from the police dodging traffic and putting others at risk. I forget the prospects name but he was suspended last year but Britton wasnt bc he could help the big club in a few months either in the pen or via a trade. Thats what gets me. People do that sober, too. I'm not saying what he did wasn't wrong; I'm just saying that we're treating it like he eats babies. And, an opening day start in a league that Britton himself has said he should have been past 2 seasons ago isn't exactly a reward.
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Post by soxcentral on Apr 5, 2013 8:50:50 GMT -5
Also it wasnt having 8 beers when your limit is 4 to drive. He had enough to go 110 MPH running from the police dodging traffic and putting others at risk. I forget the prospects name but he was suspended last year but Britton wasnt bc he could help the big club in a few months either in the pen or via a trade. Thats what gets me. People do that sober, too. I'm not saying what he did wasn't wrong; I'm just saying that we're treating it like he eats babies. And, an opening day start in a league that Britton himself has said he should have been past 2 seasons ago isn't exactly a reward. I don't think you are making a great case here at all. Britton could have easily killed people, babies too although not by eating them, with his recklessness. He is extremely lucky it didn't end in a tragedy. And an Opening Day start is clearly an honor for any pitcher, something I don't think he ever got before.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 5, 2013 8:52:12 GMT -5
People do that sober, too. I'm not saying what he did wasn't wrong; I'm just saying that we're treating it like he eats babies. And, an opening day start in a league that Britton himself has said he should have been past 2 seasons ago isn't exactly a reward. [/div][/quote] I guess, but those people are also irresponsible, also put other peoples lives in danger, and also would've been arrested. Even if it isn't considered a reward for Britton, it might've been a reward for Matt Barnes or Brandon Workman. Anyway, I find arguments that starting him on opening day might be stretching it a tad - nobody will remember the opening day starter in a week, and I don't think the other guys are either going to feel slighted or feel like they can start getting away with drunk driving. That said, what Britton did was pretty awful. The "eats babies" thing is kind of a dodge - it's hard for me to be ok with someone recklessly breaking the law just because he didn't break an even worse law.
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Post by ramireja on Apr 5, 2013 9:05:57 GMT -5
Also it wasnt having 8 beers when your limit is 4 to drive. He had enough to go 110 MPH running from the police dodging traffic and putting others at risk. I forget the prospects name but he was suspended last year but Britton wasnt bc he could help the big club in a few months either in the pen or via a trade. Thats what gets me. People do that sober, too. I'm not saying what he did wasn't wrong; I'm just saying that we're treating it like he eats babies. And, an opening day start in a league that Britton himself has said he should have been past 2 seasons ago isn't exactly a reward. Nope, wildly incorrect. No one is treating it like he eats babies. We're treating it like like this happened: "According to the arrest report, Britton, who was driving a 2008 black Chevrolet Silverado (a pickup truck), was paced at a maximum speed of 111 mph in a 45 mph zone. With a police car in pursuit, Britton's truck swerved in between other moving vehicles and jumped over a curb, continuing down a small decline and knocking down a barbed-wire fence, according to the police report. Britton then allegedly continued down a dirt road for a quarter of a mile and attempted to pull into a wooded area before coming to a stop. When the officer approached and asked for his license, Britton first handed him his debit card." If you really think that's similar to getting pulled over, blowing a .09 and getting a DUI then you're on another planet. All this happening during a time when he needs to be proving his worth on the 40-man roster.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 5, 2013 9:34:12 GMT -5
People do that sober, too. I'm not saying what he did wasn't wrong; I'm just saying that we're treating it like he eats babies. Dude, if the best thing you can say about a person is that he doesn't eat babies...
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Post by elguapo on Apr 5, 2013 9:40:42 GMT -5
I like following the minors because so many of these guys are underdogs who don't make a lot of money and probably never will, and are playing for love of the game and a shot at the big time against the odds. Some of these guys might be jerks in private and some are nice guys - but as a fan, I don't think much of players who go out of their way to prove how criminal or immoral (or just grossly immature - who likes a spoiled brat?) they are in public. Who wants to root for that?
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 5, 2013 10:27:39 GMT -5
AA Portland, the Org will look past the hitting, lack off, but the pitching, and who lays the eggs is an issue, and the holes in the gloves. OK to like tools from prospects, and 97mph velocity, but fast and flat "throwers" are not pitchers. DUI and a headcase.........time will tell By the way, the REPORTING on this site is nice, but please disclose nobody on Staff is a qualified baseball scout/evaluator Thanks I haven't seen a post like this around here for ... scaffolds, is that you?! Meanwhile, on Drake Britton, yes, he has plenty of company among young people when it comes to driving while drunk, and, sure, it's not as intentionally bad as some of the domestic violence awfulness that other athletes seem to get away with, but there's nothing wrong with shaming someone who put other people's safety so horribly at risk. As a minor aside, tho, I think that story about handing his debit card over is complete BS. I know a defense attorney in Florida, and that's a common story police put in reports, and it's often not true.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 5, 2013 10:46:06 GMT -5
AA Portland, the Org will look past the hitting, lack off, but the pitching, and who lays the eggs is an issue, and the holes in the gloves. OK to like tools from prospects, and 97mph velocity, but fast and flat "throwers" are not pitchers. DUI and a headcase.........time will tell By the way, the REPORTING on this site is nice, but please disclose nobody on Staff is a qualified baseball scout/evaluator Thanks There's quite a bit of stuff on the site, and while a lot of it is chatter and ideas, there are some very good evaluations, professional evaluations. As someone who isn't a scout, and who's only had a chance to see many of the players on video, those evaluations have allowed me to make very educated guesses about players such as Vazquez, Webster, and Bradley. While those might make me look good, they're really the product of this site and the scouting that's been done by the staff. Look around, see if you don't agree.
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Post by raftsox on Apr 5, 2013 11:31:33 GMT -5
If you really think that's similar to getting pulled over, blowing a .09 and getting a DUI then you're on another planet. All this happening during a time when he needs to be proving his worth on the 40-man roster. I didn't say that; you did. All I'm saying is; that while drunk driving is stupid and irresponsible, people are blowing this out of proportion. And, for the record: I've had friends killed by drunk drivers, both themselves and others.
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