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2022 Non-Red Sox Thread
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Post by Underwater Johnson on May 1, 2022 22:22:07 GMT -5
Haven’t had a Hunter Renfroe update in while. 5th homer tonight. He would obviously be our best OF at this point. He went 5-for-9 with 3 HRs in his last two games (haven't checked today's box).
Three days ago it would've still been Verdugo at the plate and JBJ or Enrique in the field.
EDIT: He went 0-for-3 today.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 2, 2022 10:07:39 GMT -5
Robinson Cano DFA's by the Mets
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Post by kjkramer on May 2, 2022 10:31:33 GMT -5
Can Cano play 1st or RF? 👀👀👀👀
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on May 2, 2022 10:59:39 GMT -5
Can Cano play 1st or RF? 👀👀👀👀 Stop
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Post by Don Caballero on May 2, 2022 12:32:21 GMT -5
So would Andrew Benintendi who already has a 0.7 fWAR. Basically having an All Star start to his season. Both these trades (Benintendi and Renfroe) are looking like big misses by Bloom. The idea that we could have Benny Baseball, Renfroe, VERDUGOD and Kiké all playing in the OF right now makes me angry.
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Post by incandenza on May 2, 2022 12:50:12 GMT -5
So would Andrew Benintendi who already has a 0.7 fWAR. Basically having an All Star start to his season. Both these trades (Benintendi and Renfroe) are looking like big misses by Bloom. The idea that we could have Benny Baseball, Renfroe, VERDUGOD and Kiké all playing in the OF right now makes me angry. You have a fetish for league average players or something?
(Renfroe's xwOBA: .311. Benintendi's: .302.)
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Post by James Dunne on May 2, 2022 12:57:35 GMT -5
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Post by Don Caballero on May 2, 2022 14:28:10 GMT -5
You have a fetish for league average players or something? (Renfroe's xwOBA: .311. Benintendi's: .302.) I just don't want the Red Sox to be complete ass. Like half ass would be a major improvement IMO.
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Post by radiohix on May 2, 2022 17:54:12 GMT -5
Robinson Cano DFA's by the Mets I hope this front office have the guts to admit their mistake and give Barnes the same treatment. They’re just wasting a valuable roster spot by keeping him.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 2, 2022 18:39:56 GMT -5
Robinson Cano DFA's by the Mets I hope this front office have the guts to admit their mistake and give Barnes the same treatment. They’re just wasting a valuable roster spot by keeping him. I don't disagree with the sentiment that Barnes could very well be all done, but sadly it's not like his presence is keeping other "quality" relievers off the roster. There's plenty of deadwood there.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 2, 2022 21:25:55 GMT -5
I mean, I'm not going to pretend the extension looks like a good contract, but I don't get the "cut Barnes now" line of thinking either. Even as he is now, he's probably an MLB reliever, and the money is a sunk cost at this point.
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Post by cdj on May 2, 2022 22:45:43 GMT -5
I mean, I'm not going to pretend the extension looks like a good contract, but I don't get the "cut Barnes now" line of thinking either. Even as he is now, he's probably an MLB reliever, and the money is a sunk cost at this point. I genuinely don’t believe he’s MLB quality if he’s throwing 92-93 with an inconsistent curveball. You can only trot him out in mop-up duty. He’s pitching like a AAAA guy IMO At least a guy like Schreiber can give you length and also be mildly hard on the righties that NYY and Toronto have
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Post by Underwater Johnson on May 3, 2022 0:18:41 GMT -5
Not sure how long to continue this in a "non-RS" thread but Barnes is signed through next season, so it makes sense to see if he can work things out in AAA, not just cut him now. Of course, he would have to agree to be optioned there.
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Post by kjkramer on May 3, 2022 0:43:01 GMT -5
Seems like the Yankees might be for real
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on May 3, 2022 6:27:53 GMT -5
Why do people want Cano? He was washed up years ago. Now he's barely a AA player. He needs to retire.
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Post by greenmonster on May 3, 2022 9:32:36 GMT -5
caNO
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Post by Guidas on May 3, 2022 12:21:25 GMT -5
I've been thinking a lot lately about market inefficiencies and current team approaches, so I'll throw this out there:
Which majority owners are smart enough to move their team to the no-income tax, incentive and cash-rich metros of Nashville, Las Vegas, Austin or San Antonio, or low tax environment of Charlotte or Raleigh now before expansion comes and those cities and all the ensuing cash and eager markets are offered up to new ownership groups on a platinum platter?
Tampa? Oakland? Cincinnati? Cleveland? ...Boston?
One would expect that teams such as Boston (never happen under this ownership group), Cleveland and Cincinnati and even Oakland (if they went to Vegas) would retain the bulk of their fan bases while expanding into new, younger and upper-middle-class/affluent demographic audiences.
Just a thought experiment and I threw the Sox in there because they own their stadium outright so no constraints on moving, but could def use a new one with more seating and lux boxes (about 42,000-45,000 or so total capacity). Also, the abandoned cities (minus St. Pete, Cleveland and Oakland) may rise to the top of the expansion list.
For what it's worth, but if you're a shrewd owner, it has to be tough to turn down all that opportunity on a variety of levels.
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Post by Guidas on May 3, 2022 12:22:27 GMT -5
Seems like the Yankees might be for real Wash your mouth out.
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Post by scottysmalls on May 3, 2022 13:58:10 GMT -5
I've been thinking a lot lately about market inefficiencies and current team approaches, so I'll throw this out there: Which majority owners are smart enough to move their team to the no-income tax, incentive and cash-rich metros of Nashville, Las Vegas, Austin or San Antonio, or low tax environment of Charlotte or Raleigh now before expansion comes and those cities and all the ensuing cash and eager markets are offered up to new ownership groups on a platinum platter? Tampa? Oakland? Cincinnati? Cleveland? ...Boston? One would expect that teams such as Boston (never happen under this ownership group), Cleveland and Cincinnati and even Oakland (if they went to Vegas) would retain the bulk of their fan bases while expanding into new, younger and upper-middle-class/affluent demographic audiences. Just a thought experiment and I threw the Sox in there because they own their stadium outright so no constraints on moving, but could def use a new one with more seating and lux boxes (about 42,000-45,000 or so total capacity). Also, the abandoned cities (minus St. Pete, Cleveland and Oakland) may rise to the top of the expansion list. For what it's worth, but if you're a shrewd owner, it has to be tough to turn down all that opportunity on a variety of levels. Thinking the Red Sox would ever move from Boston barring the city being wiped off the map is the most outlandish thought I've seen on this forum, and that's saying something.
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Post by Guidas on May 3, 2022 15:18:14 GMT -5
I've been thinking a lot lately about market inefficiencies and current team approaches, so I'll throw this out there: Which majority owners are smart enough to move their team to the no-income tax, incentive and cash-rich metros of Nashville, Las Vegas, Austin or San Antonio, or low tax environment of Charlotte or Raleigh now before expansion comes and those cities and all the ensuing cash and eager markets are offered up to new ownership groups on a platinum platter? Tampa? Oakland? Cincinnati? Cleveland? ...Boston? One would expect that teams such as Boston (never happen under this ownership group), Cleveland and Cincinnati and even Oakland (if they went to Vegas) would retain the bulk of their fan bases while expanding into new, younger and upper-middle-class/affluent demographic audiences. Just a thought experiment and I threw the Sox in there because they own their stadium outright so no constraints on moving, but could def use a new one with more seating and lux boxes (about 42,000-45,000 or so total capacity). Also, the abandoned cities (minus St. Pete, Cleveland and Oakland) may rise to the top of the expansion list. For what it's worth, but if you're a shrewd owner, it has to be tough to turn down all that opportunity on a variety of levels. Thinking the Red Sox would ever move from Boston barring the city being wiped off the map is the most outlandish thought I've seen on this forum, and that's saying something. I know, and I admitted it would never happen. Had to throw it in there because, if I wasn't so biased for the Sox, that they control a stadium built in 1912 that will need eventual replacement a city where real estate and a local...uh...government that would make moving and building extremely difficult, and a stats-oriented owner doing the math means it would at least be a better than zero probability. But yeah, it would take a complete reality shift on a Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness level. Tampa, Oakland, Cincinnati and Cleveland, on the other hand...
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Post by scottysmalls on May 3, 2022 15:37:36 GMT -5
Thinking the Red Sox would ever move from Boston barring the city being wiped off the map is the most outlandish thought I've seen on this forum, and that's saying something. I know, and I admitted it would never happen. Had to throw it in there because, if I wasn't so biased for the Sox, that they control a stadium built in 1912 that will need eventual replacement a city where real estate and a local...uh...government that would make moving and building extremely difficult, and a stats-oriented owner doing the math means it would at least be a better than zero probability. But yeah, it would take a complete reality shift on a Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness level. Tampa, Oakland, Cincinnati and Cleveland, on the other hand... Agree with the general concept of those cities being really appealing for some team (especially Oakland and Tampa), but regardless of any of the factors you laid out the Red Sox are one of the most profitable and beloved teams in baseball right where they are.
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Post by stunzisox on May 3, 2022 16:41:59 GMT -5
Anyone want to venture a guess as to who owns the three stat lines below to start the 2022 MILB season? 😈
Player 1:.203 .345 .406 Player 2:.200 .288 .323 Player 3:.216 .237 .311
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Post by wcsoxfan on May 3, 2022 16:53:22 GMT -5
Thinking the Red Sox would ever move from Boston barring the city being wiped off the map is the most outlandish thought I've seen on this forum, and that's saying something. I know, and I admitted it would never happen. Had to throw it in there because, if I wasn't so biased for the Sox, that they control a stadium built in 1912 that will need eventual replacement a city where real estate and a local...uh...government that would make moving and building extremely difficult, and a stats-oriented owner doing the math means it would at least be a better than zero probability. But yeah, it would take a complete reality shift on a Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness level. Tampa, Oakland, Cincinnati and Cleveland, on the other hand... I'm not so sure this is true depending on the interpretation. Seems like more of a Theseus' ship type of situation.
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Post by jimoh on May 3, 2022 17:08:35 GMT -5
Anyone want to venture a guess as to who owns the three stat lines below to start the 2022 MILB season? 😈 Player 1:.203 .345 .406 Player 2:.200 .288 .323 Player 3:.216 .237 .311 I don't know who these are exactly, but I was noticing that all the possible LHH 1b or UTIL we could have signed are doing poorly. Brad Miller, Colin Moran, et al. Is one of them Soler? Rizzo? It seemed to me that Chaim should have been willing to spend more than Shaw money on that spot, but it would not have helped so far this season. I do expect Brad Miller to hit better as the year goes on, though maybe not as well as last year when he could pop home runs over that RF fence in Philadelphia. So many frogs kissed, so few princes this year.
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Post by jimoh on May 3, 2022 17:10:26 GMT -5
Anyone want to venture a guess as to who owns the three stat lines below to start the 2022 MILB season? 😈 Player 1:.203 .345 .406 Player 2:.200 .288 .323 Player 3:.216 .237 .311 I don't know who these are exactly, but I was noticing that all the possible LHH 1b or UTIL we could have signed are doing poorly. Brad Miller, Colin Moran, et al. Is one of them Soler? Rizzo? It seemed to me that Chaim should have been willing to spend more than Shaw money on that spot, but it would not have helped so far this season. I do expect Brad Miller to hit better as the year goes on, though maybe not as well as last year when he could pop home runs over that RF fence in Philadelphia. So many frogs kissed, so few princes this year. Woah, Soler is .176 .278 .329 .608
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