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Post by dirtdog on May 14, 2022 21:01:21 GMT -5
Certainly behind Pedro, Papi and Manny. But they traded for Pedro. Manny and Papi were my first 2 thoughts, as well. Schilling?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 14, 2022 21:07:57 GMT -5
Certainly behind Pedro, Papi and Manny. But they traded for Pedro. Manny and Papi were my first 2 thoughts, as well. Tiant was a pretty good pickup after being released by Atlanta.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 14, 2022 21:08:35 GMT -5
But they traded for Pedro. Manny and Papi were my first 2 thoughts, as well. Schilling? Like Pedro, they traded for Schilling.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 14, 2022 21:09:20 GMT -5
I'd say Koji Uehara was a great free agent signing.
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Post by mobaz on May 14, 2022 21:12:49 GMT -5
Where does JDM rank of the list of Best Free Agent Signings in team history? Certainly behind Pedro, Papi and Manny. He reminds me a little of JD Drew. Always felt like a mercenary, but a bit underappreciated and significantly contributed to a ring. Impact beyond the stat sheet. 5 years has flown by.
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Post by notstarboard on May 14, 2022 21:21:58 GMT -5
Franchy Cordero has had 5 PA today.
BB 108 mph groundout; .340 xBA 111 mph single; .910 xBA 100 mph flyout; .670 xBA (barrel) 102 mph single; .630 xBA
The last two were off lefties too.
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Post by Canseco on May 14, 2022 21:36:47 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on May 14, 2022 21:41:35 GMT -5
Great win!
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Post by marrcus on May 14, 2022 22:24:54 GMT -5
Nice 'streak' but there's still a long way to go and Story in particular, amongst Dalbec, Kiké, and to a lesser extent JBJ, need to show massive improvement. If they can't do it against Rangers ... Wish they were not following this series with houston.
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Post by cdj on May 14, 2022 22:44:21 GMT -5
We back
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 14, 2022 22:44:48 GMT -5
That's more like it. I will suspend my irrational exuberance until we get to .500 and beyond. Until then...will keep an eye on things but keep a level head.
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Post by redsox43 on May 14, 2022 23:01:27 GMT -5
Not meaning to rehash old trade talk, but if Franchy turns into any kind of positive win player, whether it's a bench piece or semi regular player. With Winckoski included, the Benintendi trade is a landslide win in favor of the Sox.
I don't even think the Mets got anything positive out of that deal. Kansas City will get 2 meh seasons out of Benintendi.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 14, 2022 23:22:31 GMT -5
Not meaning to rehash old trade talk, but if Franchy turns into any kind of positive win player, whether it's a bench piece or semi regular player. With Winckoski included, the Benintendi trade is a landslide win in favor of the Sox. I don't even think the Mets got anything positive out of that deal. Kansas City will get 2 meh seasons out of Benintendi. Benintendi is having a meh season? Wish all the Sox OF were having his men season.
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Post by redsox43 on May 15, 2022 0:04:19 GMT -5
Not meaning to rehash old trade talk, but if Franchy turns into any kind of positive win player, whether it's a bench piece or semi regular player. With Winckoski included, the Benintendi trade is a landslide win in favor of the Sox. I don't even think the Mets got anything positive out of that deal. Kansas City will get 2 meh seasons out of Benintendi. Benintendi is having a meh season? Wish all the Sox OF were having his men season. Yeah a lot BABIP luck and no power. His average is creeping down. I think he'll be in .270 range with 10-18 homeruns ~.780 OPS at the end of the year. Pretty meh.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 15, 2022 0:21:04 GMT -5
Benintendi is having a meh season? Wish all the Sox OF were having his men season. Yeah a lot BABIP luck and no power. His average is creeping down. I think he'll be in .270 range with 10-18 homeruns ~.780 OPS at the end of the year. Pretty meh. We'll see if any Sox OF can manage that this season. His .780 OPS you project will be heavy on the OBP side, which isnt a bad thing. And he's also been quite good defensively according to the metrics. This isn't a OMG, Benintendi is a superstar thing. He can be replaced, but the narrative that he's having a meh season and that the Sox won the trade seems off to me. Most likely Franchy is a AAAA player/bench guy and Winchowski is a swing man pitcher and the other 3 dont amount to anything. It's not an unsurviveable loss for the Sox but I don't think it's a win either. This year Beni is certainly good enough to start for the Sox, but if he did, like several others, he'd be a candidate to be traded in July.
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Post by bosoxnation on May 15, 2022 1:01:10 GMT -5
If anyone wants to get a good laugh. Download the espn app. Check the injury report for tomorrows game. I’m still laughing.
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Post by redsox43 on May 15, 2022 1:16:09 GMT -5
Yeah a lot BABIP luck and no power. His average is creeping down. I think he'll be in .270 range with 10-18 homeruns ~.780 OPS at the end of the year. Pretty meh. We'll see if any Sox OF can manage that this season. His .780 OPS you project will be heavy on the OBP side, which isnt a bad thing. And he's also been quite good defensively according to the metrics. This isn't a OMG, Benintendi is a superstar thing. He can be replaced, but the narrative that he's having a meh season and that the Sox won the trade seems off to me. Most likely Franchy is a AAAA player/bench guy and Winchowski is a swing man pitcher and the other 3 dont amount to anything. It's not an unsurviveable loss for the Sox but I don't think it's a win either. This year Beni is certainly good enough to start for the Sox, but if he did, like several others, he'd be a candidate to be traded in July. Yeah the Sox outfield situation is pretty dire lol. I wouldn't use them as a comparison, the Sox could upgrade from 2 spots in the outfield at least. Franchy is interesting and it's not like he's old enough where the adjustments you're seeing, you're just brushing off. SSS, but he seems like a different hitter than before. Ortiz and Jose Bautista made huge career jumps with the bat around Franchy's age. Not saying he will turn into that, but it's interesting at least. Franchy hits the ball hard (lightower power) and the new plate discipline approach can really help him. I like Winckoski, he'll be valuable whether he's the new 3 inning horse out of the bullpen in high leverage or another quality back end arm like Pivetta.
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Post by kjkramer on May 15, 2022 2:01:16 GMT -5
Franchy Cordero has had 5 PA today. BB 108 mph groundout; .340 xBA 111 mph single; .910 xBA 100 mph flyout; .670 xBA (barrel) 102 mph single; .630 xBA The last two were off lefties too. He has all the tools if he figures it out.... maybe he is before our eyes
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 15, 2022 2:51:54 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 15, 2022 7:58:30 GMT -5
We'll see if any Sox OF can manage that this season. His .780 OPS you project will be heavy on the OBP side, which isnt a bad thing. And he's also been quite good defensively according to the metrics. This isn't a OMG, Benintendi is a superstar thing. He can be replaced, but the narrative that he's having a meh season and that the Sox won the trade seems off to me. Most likely Franchy is a AAAA player/bench guy and Winchowski is a swing man pitcher and the other 3 dont amount to anything. It's not an unsurviveable loss for the Sox but I don't think it's a win either. This year Beni is certainly good enough to start for the Sox, but if he did, like several others, he'd be a candidate to be traded in July. Yeah the Sox outfield situation is pretty dire lol. I wouldn't use them as a comparison, the Sox could upgrade from 2 spots in the outfield at least. Franchy is interesting and it's not like he's old enough where the adjustments you're seeing, you're just brushing off. SSS, but he seems like a different hitter than before. Ortiz and Jose Bautista made huge career jumps with the bat around Franchy's age. Not saying he will turn into that, but it's interesting at least. Franchy hits the ball hard (lightower power) and the new plate discipline approach can really help him. I like Winckoski, he'll be valuable whether he's the new 3 inning horse out of the bullpen in high leverage or another quality back end arm like Pivetta. He's 27 or so? Maybe Franchy is a new and improved Franchy. We'll see. It could happen. The odds are against it and I'd need a substantially bigger sample size than what has been. They want to give him ABs over JBJ or Dalbec or even Hernandez, that's fine. At some point Duran and Casas will absorb ABs, which could cut into the Franchy experiment if the results aren't there.
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Post by manfred on May 15, 2022 9:03:00 GMT -5
I am as big a Franchy doubter as they come, but I definitely think his approach is light years better. Last year he just seemed to flail. He has gotten more selective, and he seems able at least to fight off tough pitches. I don’t know if he can make it, but I credit him (and the system?) with real work and advances.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 15, 2022 9:19:40 GMT -5
I am as big a Franchy doubter as they come, but I definitely think his approach is light years better. Last year he just seemed to flail. He has gotten more selective, and he seems able at least to fight off tough pitches. I don’t know if he can make it, but I credit him (and the system?) with real work and advances. In a small sample size, the approach is better. Then again Dalbec looked like he had started to figure it out and he's back to flailing, so who knows? Hopefully Franchy's patient approach continues and the results prove out. His future certainly isn't 1b, so he'll have to be able to handle an outfield corner or hit well enough to be a DH.
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Post by cdj on May 15, 2022 11:23:58 GMT -5
Hernandez Devers Martinez Bogaerts Story Arroyo Verdugo Dalbec Plawecki
Against old friend Martin Perez, who has been sneaky great through 6 starts in his Texas reunion
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Post by benzinger on May 15, 2022 11:45:19 GMT -5
Not meaning to rehash old trade talk, but if Franchy turns into any kind of positive win player, whether it's a bench piece or semi regular player. With Winckoski included, the Benintendi trade is a landslide win in favor of the Sox. I don't even think the Mets got anything positive out of that deal. Kansas City will get 2 meh seasons out of Benintendi. Benintendi is having a meh season? Wish all the Sox OF were having his men season. Strip away the peripheral stuff and Benintendi is hitting .316 with 2HR and 15RBI this year. That is pretty meh, yes.
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Post by incandenza on May 15, 2022 11:58:03 GMT -5
Benintendi is having a meh season? Wish all the Sox OF were having his men season. Strip away the peripheral stuff and Benintendi is hitting .316 with 2HR and 15RBI this year. That is pretty meh, yes. Some sort of statistical horseshoe theory going on here: by 2020s stats and 1980s stats he looks meh, but pretty good by mid-2000s stats...
Actually, while his wOBA has been going down, his xwOBA is going up, and they're both converging toward his career averages. He looks like the same league-average player he was in 2019 and 2021.
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