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6/4 Gameday Thread: Hello Mata, Hello Bello!
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 4, 2022 7:27:21 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 4, 2022 9:25:03 GMT -5
Mata’s first professional minor league game action since August 31, 2019.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 4, 2022 9:34:26 GMT -5
This is a glorious day for pitching! It just can't get any better than that.
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Post by cdj on Jun 4, 2022 9:35:52 GMT -5
So excited to see Mata back
Pump that ched kid
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2022 9:55:26 GMT -5
So excited to see Mata back Pump that ched kid Mata is starting, but I assume he is only going to pitch an inning or two.?.
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Post by nomar on Jun 4, 2022 16:10:43 GMT -5
HRs for Wong and Ronaldo
Wong is up to .277 BA and .727 OPS after a slow start. K% way down through his ~25 game sample, but then again so is his power. If his contact% improvement is real, and his power progresses to the mean, it could be a great year for him. He might assume Plawecki’s role next year.
Hernandez’s OPS up to .633
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Post by nomar on Jun 4, 2022 16:25:55 GMT -5
Wong now 3-3 and a 3B short of the cycle
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 4, 2022 16:53:06 GMT -5
Another really nice start by Bello in Worcester. 5.1 IP, 1 ER, 1 BB, 8 Ks. He looked really good. Still responsible for two men on base, but hopefully the bullpen can lock it down.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Jun 4, 2022 16:56:05 GMT -5
Bello: 13 batted balls, 12 on the ground
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 4, 2022 16:56:29 GMT -5
Welp, I've seen enough. I want to see Bello in a Houck piggyback role.
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Post by nomar on Jun 4, 2022 17:12:10 GMT -5
Bello gets charged with 2 ER due to a meltdown by Bazardo. Oh well.
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 4, 2022 17:16:29 GMT -5
Mata hit 98 a few times in the first inning. Probably got squeezed out of a strikeout but got two grounders and a pop out to make it through one.
Two Ks in inning number two. Mata kept the ball on the ground again which ended up leading to an unearned run on a Bonaci error when the ball just went under his glove on a routine grounder.
Final line for Mata: 2 IP, 0 H, 1 R (0 ER), 2 BB, 2 Ks. Lots of weak contact on the ground. Not a bad line, but it would have been even better if not for an error, dropped pop up in foul territory, and a stingy ump.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jun 4, 2022 18:12:57 GMT -5
I've been cautiously excited about bello and I know pitching prospects are so volatile but it's getting close to me saying he's the best pitching prospect they've had in a long time and starting to hope he's a top of the line starter. Am I crazy?
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 4, 2022 18:27:20 GMT -5
I've been cautiously excited about bello and I know pitching prospects are so volatile but it's getting close to me saying he's the best pitching prospect they've had in a long time and starting to hope he's a top of the line starter. Am I crazy? There's been similarly ranked guys, but I think you have to go back to Buchholz to find a guy that combined 1) Youth 2) Great stuff 3) Minor league performance that suggests he's already good enough for the majors
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Post by pasadenasox on Jun 4, 2022 18:34:57 GMT -5
I've been cautiously excited about bello and I know pitching prospects are so volatile but it's getting close to me saying he's the best pitching prospect they've had in a long time and starting to hope he's a top of the line starter. Am I crazy? Certainly the best guy to make it to AAA/the upper minors in quite some time.
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Post by foreverred9 on Jun 4, 2022 19:39:41 GMT -5
Local kid Frank Mozzicato got the bump today against Salem, his 4th start. He got roughed up in his second start not getting out of the first and did a little better in his last start. He was better today. 5 Ks in three perfect innings but then left after back-to-back walks to Sikes and Mayer in the 4th. Both ended up scoring later in the inning.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jun 4, 2022 19:59:33 GMT -5
Welp, I've seen enough. I want to see Bello in a Houck piggyback role. Might be a better way to bring guys up for their debuts, rather than a start.
Winckowski, Seabold, Crawford all came up and made spot starts and all fell apart after a couple innings. Maybe putting them in and saying, "go out and get 5 or 6 outs," rather than "go out and get 5 or 6 innings," would allow them to gain some confidence and maybe be ready for a start later on, once they've gotten their feet wet with some big league hitters and big league coaching between appearances.
Not saying their stuff is all the same but it sure worked out for Whitlock.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jun 4, 2022 20:14:10 GMT -5
I've been cautiously excited about bello and I know pitching prospects are so volatile but it's getting close to me saying he's the best pitching prospect they've had in a long time and starting to hope he's a top of the line starter. Am I crazy? I already told you in another thread that you're not crazy. Do I need to say it again? Yes, I look forward to Bryan and Brayan as rotation pieces in a couple of years. I'd like to see Bello held back until OD 2023. Mata could make his debut later in '23, though I wouldn't mind seeing him held back until OD '24. The new CBA rewards teams for waiting until the start of a season to bring their top kids up. As far as best P prospect in a long time, I guess you'd have to say since Buchholz, right? I don't recall that E-Rod was rated as highly after we got him from Baltimore as Mata and Bello are now.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jun 4, 2022 20:22:12 GMT -5
I've been cautiously excited about bello and I know pitching prospects are so volatile but it's getting close to me saying he's the best pitching prospect they've had in a long time and starting to hope he's a top of the line starter. Am I crazy? I already told you in another thread that you're not crazy. Do I need to say it again? Yes, I look forward to Bryan and Brayan as rotation pieces in a couple of years. I'd like to see Bello held back until OD 2023. Mata could make his debut later in '23, though I wouldn't mind seeing him held back until OD '24. The new CBA rewards teams for waiting until the start of a season to bring their top kids up. As far as best P prospect in a long time, I guess you'd have to say since Buchholz, right? I don't recall that E-Rod was rated as highly after we got him from Baltimore as Mata and Bello are now. I think both have a fair shot to be up by August as relievers. They both offer more electric stuff than maybe anyone else currently on the roster. But hey I'm glad I'm not crazy!
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jun 4, 2022 21:04:59 GMT -5
Seadogs had 4 batters HBP. Granberg left the game.
No information on any injury
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Post by cdj on Jun 4, 2022 21:18:34 GMT -5
I've been cautiously excited about bello and I know pitching prospects are so volatile but it's getting close to me saying he's the best pitching prospect they've had in a long time and starting to hope he's a top of the line starter. Am I crazy? I already told you in another thread that you're not crazy. Do I need to say it again? Yes, I look forward to Bryan and Brayan as rotation pieces in a couple of years. I'd like to see Bello held back until OD 2023. Mata could make his debut later in '23, though I wouldn't mind seeing him held back until OD '24. The new CBA rewards teams for waiting until the start of a season to bring their top kids up. As far as best P prospect in a long time, I guess you'd have to say since Buchholz, right? I don't recall that E-Rod was rated as highly after we got him from Baltimore as Mata and Bello are now. From what I recall E-Rod was highly ranked but had lost a little shine the season we acquired him- he then proceeded to shove once he got into this org
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Post by larrycook on Jun 4, 2022 21:39:50 GMT -5
Rafeala with another nice day as well. A double, two singles and two strike outs!
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Post by cdj on Jun 4, 2022 21:40:07 GMT -5
Wong will see time if they cut bait on Plawecki, I just don’t know if they are going to do that because he seems like a glue guy
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2022 23:32:23 GMT -5
Wong will see time if they cut bait on Plawecki, I just don’t know if they are going to do that because he seems like a glue guy Wong has been catching a lot of games, and he has been hitting much better, but I wonder why Mieses does not play more? He hits and has some pop, but I have not seen him in the outfield.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jun 5, 2022 5:57:41 GMT -5
Just looking at box scores, it’s good to see Rafaela continuing to rake for The Drive. He was 3-5 with a double. He’s got the BA up to a hefty .326. Considering he’s a Top 15 guy for the site, I guess I need to start paying even more attention to him.
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