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Post by jdb on Jun 18, 2022 11:30:34 GMT -5
Any guys who you all would like us to kick the tires on? RP is obvious and it will be good to see what happens to Sale and Paxton and how it effects that. With Casas out I’m looking at Josh Bell. He’d be a great fit. Good power, OBA, decent glove and no splits this year. You wouldn’t think he’d be expensive but who knows with the extra wild cards.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jun 18, 2022 13:22:09 GMT -5
I have been watching 1B for a while looking for veterans on bad(ish) teams and ones that stick out from what I remember are Aguilar and Cooper of MIA, Abreu of CWS, Bell of WAS, Mancini of BAL and Cron of COL. And Seattle might be crazy enough to trade France but likely not yet.
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Post by nuttyredsox on Jun 18, 2022 15:40:25 GMT -5
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Post by redsox43 on Jun 18, 2022 15:57:41 GMT -5
The two names that seems the most realistic are-
Mitch Hanniger and David Robertson.
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Post by blizzards39 on Jun 18, 2022 18:35:58 GMT -5
The two names that seems the most realistic are- Mitch Hanniger and David Robertson. Trea Mancini? |
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Post by redsox43 on Jun 18, 2022 18:44:10 GMT -5
The two names that seems the most realistic are- Mitch Hanniger and David Robertson. Trea Mancini? Would he be better than even a Franchy/Dalbec platoon at this point? |
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Post by soxaddict on Jun 19, 2022 0:00:42 GMT -5
Any guys who you all would like us to kick the tires on? RP is obvious and it will be good to see what happens to Sale and Paxton and how it effects that. With Casas out I’m looking at Josh Bell. He’d be a great fit. Good power, OBA, decent glove and no splits this year. You wouldn’t think he’d be expensive but who knows with the extra wild cards. Bell would be a perfect fit. I agree, he shouldn't be that expensive. I'd assume a Schwarber type cost but as you said with the extra wild cards and the NL DH, it could drive his price up a bit. |
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Post by bosox904 on Jun 19, 2022 12:31:25 GMT -5
Some relievers I'd be interested in.
Scott Barlow- KC
Josh Staumont- KC
Jorge Lopez- Bal
Reynaldo López- CWS
Victor Arano- WAS
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Post by jdb on Jun 20, 2022 9:25:39 GMT -5
I have been watching 1B for a while looking for veterans on bad(ish) teams and ones that stick out from what I remember are Aguilar and Cooper of MIA, Abreu of CWS, Bell of WAS, Mancini of BAL and Cron of COL. And Seattle might be crazy enough to trade France but likely not yet. Cooper would be a good as well. If we got him I might would put him at Lead Off. That’s been a weakness as well and he could play a little LF of Dalbec gets hot. |
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Post by redsoxpride34 on Jun 20, 2022 10:30:52 GMT -5
Cooper or Cron would be nice adds. Relievers wise I would look towards Staumont or if the price isn't crazy high, Bednar.
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Post by redsoxpride34 on Jun 20, 2022 15:51:39 GMT -5
Also wondering if we could pry Bryan Reynolds away from the pirates. He would fill one of the holes in the outfield and the leadoff hitter spot.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jun 20, 2022 16:03:00 GMT -5
Also wondering if we could pry Bryan Reynolds away from the pirates. He would fill one of the holes in the outfield and the leadoff hitter spot. I'm sure we could, but be prepared to give up Mayer |
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Post by redsoxpride34 on Jun 20, 2022 17:47:18 GMT -5
Also wondering if we could pry Bryan Reynolds away from the pirates. He would fill one of the holes in the outfield and the leadoff hitter spot. I'm sure we could, but be prepared to give up Mayer There's no chance the price would be that high. Mayer would only enter the conversation for an elite top notch talent. Reynolds is a good player but by no means elite. |
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jun 20, 2022 18:39:44 GMT -5
I'm sure we could, but be prepared to give up Mayer There's no chance the price would be that high. Mayer would only enter the conversation for an elite top notch talent. Reynolds is a good player but by no means elite. He's 27yr old, 5 WAR player with 3 years of team control beyond this one. He absolutely will cost you Mayer +. Baseballtradevalues has him valued at 80.5, and Mayer is listed at 55. |
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Post by soxaddict on Jun 20, 2022 19:58:31 GMT -5
There's no chance the price would be that high. Mayer would only enter the conversation for an elite top notch talent. Reynolds is a good player but by no means elite. He's 27yr old, 5 WAR player with 3 years of team control beyond this one. He absolutely will cost you Mayer +. Baseballtradevalues has him valued at 80.5, and Mayer is listed at 55. Reynolds would absolutely cost Mayer, plus some. I would loathe the idea of trading Mayer, but for 3.5 cheap years of Reynolds, you'd have to consider it. |
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jun 20, 2022 22:54:08 GMT -5
Given our current standings and playoff outlook, as well as the incremental decrease in economic returns when it comes to buying wins, I think we should only focus on small to moderate moves to make sure that we make the playoffs. We are not trying to beat the Yankees in the regular season. Given where we are now I don't think it's worth giving up a top 5 prospect to improve our situation slightly. Yes, I want the highest odds of winning the World Series as possible but given how much of a lottery the playoffs can be, I think the market efficiency is just simply getting a ticket each year.
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Post by jdb on Jun 21, 2022 11:47:59 GMT -5
Given our current standings and playoff outlook, as well as the incremental decrease in economic returns when it comes to buying wins, I think we should only focus on small to moderate moves to make sure that we make the playoffs. We are not trying to beat the Yankees in the regular season. Given where we are now I don't think it's worth giving up a top 5 prospect to improve our situation slightly. Yes, I want the highest odds of winning the World Series as possible but given how much of a lottery the playoffs can be, I think the market efficiency is just simply getting a ticket each year. I tend to agree. Hopefully getting Sale and Paxton will boost the staff, maybe Duran can hold down an OF spot but with Casas still out I think 1B is the spot to upgrade. |
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Post by bosox904 on Jun 21, 2022 12:01:07 GMT -5
I'm sure we could, but be prepared to give up Mayer There's no chance the price would be that high. Mayer would only enter the conversation for an elite top notch talent. Reynolds is a good player but by no means elite. The Padres backed out if talks because they thought the price was too high. And they reportedly wanted Max Meyer and Kahlil Watson from the Marlins and in past talks with the Mariners wanted Julio Rodriguez plus more. From the Sox they would probably ask fir a combination of Mayer, Casas, Yorke and Bello. |
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Post by philarhody on Jun 21, 2022 20:00:59 GMT -5
He's 27yr old, 5 WAR player with 3 years of team control beyond this one. He absolutely will cost you Mayer +. Baseballtradevalues has him valued at 80.5, and Mayer is listed at 55. Reynolds would absolutely cost Mayer, plus some. I would loathe the idea of trading Mayer, but for 3.5 cheap years of Reynolds, you'd have to consider it. I wouldn’t consider it. But I think Mayer will be one of the best players in baseball. I would definitely be open to trading Casas for him. |
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jun 22, 2022 21:28:12 GMT -5
Jay Groome for Josh Bell?
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jun 23, 2022 4:41:15 GMT -5
I don't know what the prospect price would be, but Cooper on MIA has another year of control (as opposed to Josh Bell and Jesus Aguilar) and very good average and on-base skills as opposed to the flashier HR numbers. I'd also be partial to targeting teams that have competitive balance picks, like Colorado (Cron) and Baltimore (Mancini/Mountcastle). In fact Miami was my first thought but they already traded said pick to Baltimore.
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Post by jdb on Jun 23, 2022 10:08:16 GMT -5
I don’t think Cron goes anywhere but I’ve been wrong before. He resigned very soon after last season before he hit the free agent market. To do that the team has to want you and you have to want to be there. Just can’t see him being moved for that.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jun 23, 2022 10:55:39 GMT -5
I don’t think Cron goes anywhere but I’ve been wrong before. He resigned very soon after last season before he hit the free agent market. To do that the team has to want you and you have to want to be there. Just can’t see him being moved for that. Cron is going to cost a fortune to pry him from COL. He's arguably their best player (Kris Bryant is a folktale) and he's signed for cheap next season as well |
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Post by nomar on Jun 23, 2022 11:17:00 GMT -5
The cupboards are pretty barren for a lot of the presumed sellers.
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Post by soxaddict on Jun 24, 2022 1:18:57 GMT -5
Given our current standings and playoff outlook, as well as the incremental decrease in economic returns when it comes to buying wins, I think we should only focus on small to moderate moves to make sure that we make the playoffs. We are not trying to beat the Yankees in the regular season. Given where we are now I don't think it's worth giving up a top 5 prospect to improve our situation slightly. Yes, I want the highest odds of winning the World Series as possible but given how much of a lottery the playoffs can be, I think the market efficiency is just simply getting a ticket each year. I tend to agree. Hopefully getting Sale and Paxton will boost the staff, maybe Duran can hold down an OF spot but with Casas still out I think 1B is the spot to upgrade. Offensively I'm in total agreement. Josh Bell would be ideal. Mancini would be my next target. Jose Abreu if the Chi Sox sell. I wouldn't want to rely on Eovaldi, Whitlock, Sale, Paxton and Taylor to all come back healthy. Having to count on Robles, Diekman, Brasier, and Sawamura to provide quality innings down the stretch will be a disaster. In no particular order, Michael Fulmer, Anthony Bass, Matt Moore, Alex Colome, David Robertson, Daniel Bard, Chris Martin, Carl Edwards Jr. should be some low cost options, IMO. |
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