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Post by cheers on Aug 19, 2022 9:05:29 GMT -5
The fact he’s not even ranked in the top 25 shows how deep we are right now which is crazy. Thanks Bloom!!! Starting to look more a function of Kavadas being really underrated?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 19, 2022 9:30:26 GMT -5
The fact he’s not even ranked in the top 25 shows how deep we are right now which is crazy. Thanks Bloom!!! Starting to look more a function of Kavadas being really underrated? Function of needing to see what he does in Double-A.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 19, 2022 9:40:27 GMT -5
Starting to look more a function of Kavadas being really underrated? Function of needing to see what he does in Double-A. He has a 0% K-rate in AA, what more could you possibly need to see at this point?
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 23, 2022 14:47:42 GMT -5
Wow is this promotion because of injuriers? or was this a real earned one?
I'm pumped
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Post by jimoh on Oct 1, 2022 7:19:14 GMT -5
"Kate: Niko Kavadas has been getting a fair amount of hype in the fantasy community. Have you moved up on him at all? Or is he just the older, corner only, platoon bat that my eyes are telling me he is? Eric A Longenhagen: He’s definitely the type of guy who’s more valuable in fantasy than real life. Totally buy that he’ll be a big league contributor and hit for enough power to be fantasy relevant but more in the 1 WAR area as a real life 1B/DH option" blogs.fangraphs.com/eric-longenhagen-chat/
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Post by jfb012 on Oct 1, 2022 8:25:22 GMT -5
"Kate: Niko Kavadas has been getting a fair amount of hype in the fantasy community. Have you moved up on him at all? Or is he just the older, corner only, platoon bat that my eyes are telling me he is? Eric A Longenhagen: He’s definitely the type of guy who’s more valuable in fantasy than real life. Totally buy that he’ll be a big league contributor and hit for enough power to be fantasy relevant but more in the 1 WAR area as a real life 1B/DH option" blogs.fangraphs.com/eric-longenhagen-chat/Seems like a best case for the Red Sox is that he mashes in AAA, some team thinks he can be an everyday 1b and trades us something valuable for him, as I'm guessing Casas should block him
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Oct 1, 2022 10:21:18 GMT -5
"Kate: Niko Kavadas has been getting a fair amount of hype in the fantasy community. Have you moved up on him at all? Or is he just the older, corner only, platoon bat that my eyes are telling me he is? Eric A Longenhagen: He’s definitely the type of guy who’s more valuable in fantasy than real life. Totally buy that he’ll be a big league contributor and hit for enough power to be fantasy relevant but more in the 1 WAR area as a real life 1B/DH option" blogs.fangraphs.com/eric-longenhagen-chat/Sounds like he just described Kyle Schwarber...
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 1, 2022 10:51:45 GMT -5
"Kate: Niko Kavadas has been getting a fair amount of hype in the fantasy community. Have you moved up on him at all? Or is he just the older, corner only, platoon bat that my eyes are telling me he is? Eric A Longenhagen: He’s definitely the type of guy who’s more valuable in fantasy than real life. Totally buy that he’ll be a big league contributor and hit for enough power to be fantasy relevant but more in the 1 WAR area as a real life 1B/DH option" blogs.fangraphs.com/eric-longenhagen-chat/Seems like a best case for the Red Sox is that he mashes in AAA, some team thinks he can be an everyday 1b and trades us something valuable for him, as I'm guessing Casas should block him Or he mashes for the Red Sox at DH for a minimum wage baseball salary, which I think would be the best case scenario. If he has is like Schwarber that would be pretty darn good. Don't expect him to be, but certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility at this stage.
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Post by ghostofrussgibson on Oct 1, 2022 17:24:20 GMT -5
How's his glove? Assuming he'd hit enough to DH, could he play a passible first base?
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Post by tnyankee556 on Oct 1, 2022 18:38:20 GMT -5
Or is Niko a good long term solution as our DH here in Boston?
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Post by xdmo on Oct 1, 2022 19:11:56 GMT -5
Seems like a best case for the Red Sox is that he mashes in AAA, some team thinks he can be an everyday 1b and trades us something valuable for him, as I'm guessing Casas should block him Or he mashes for the Red Sox at DH for a minimum wage baseball salary, which I think would be the best case scenario. If he has is like Schwarber that would be pretty darn good. Don't expect him to be, but certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility at this stage. You got to wonder if Niko factors into a Devers decision. Niko if he mashes, could be a guy that sticks for 5+ years. Devers will probably be a DH long-term at some point.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 1, 2022 19:30:24 GMT -5
Or he mashes for the Red Sox at DH for a minimum wage baseball salary, which I think would be the best case scenario. If he has is like Schwarber that would be pretty darn good. Don't expect him to be, but certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility at this stage. You got to wonder if Niko factors into a Devers decision. Niko if he mashes, could be a guy that sticks for 5+ years. Devers will probably be a DH long-term at some point. I think Devers is good enough to stick at 3b for another 5 years or so. He has the skill set. I'm high on Kavadas but I probably have some blinders on. He might be a low average three true outcomes guy who is unplayable against lefties. So you dont worry about Devers not having a DH spot. It's not blocked. That said I do hope Kavadas is a Schwarber. And I hope Devers stays at 3b long term.
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Post by xdmo on Oct 1, 2022 20:01:14 GMT -5
You got to wonder if Niko factors into a Devers decision. Niko if he mashes, could be a guy that sticks for 5+ years. Devers will probably be a DH long-term at some point. I think Devers is good enough to stick at 3b for another 5 years or so. He has the skill set. I'm high on Kavadas but I probably have some blinders on. He might be a low average three true outcomes guy who is unplayable against lefties. So you dont worry about Devers not having a DH spot. It's not blocked. That said I do hope Kavadas is a Schwarber. And I hope Devers stays at 3b long term. Didn't Kavadas do pretty well against LHP this year? I remember him hitting some homeruns in clips against them. Then again, Niko pretty much hit everyone in the lower minors this year.
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Post by patford on Oct 1, 2022 23:03:42 GMT -5
I'm not high on Kavadas but I do think the Sox should be very aggressive advancing him. He's not raw in his approach so he's not got a lot to learn. Basically the Sox just need to see if he can hit advanced pitching. He fell off pretty badly in Portland but that was coming after a scorching hot streak and it may simply have been a slump.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 2, 2022 7:23:17 GMT -5
Kavadas hit .222/.370/.333 with a 40% K rate and an extremely high in-zone whiff rate in Portland. I love his command of the zone and he hits the ball a ton when he hits it, but the concerns I (and scouts) had regarding his swing at higher levels have borne out so far - it's a SSS but the issues were exactly what you could see coming at lower levels. Not burying him or anything here but he does not factor into anything at the MLB level yet until he shows he can hit high-minors pitching.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 2, 2022 7:25:40 GMT -5
I think Devers is good enough to stick at 3b for another 5 years or so. He has the skill set. I'm high on Kavadas but I probably have some blinders on. He might be a low average three true outcomes guy who is unplayable against lefties. So you dont worry about Devers not having a DH spot. It's not blocked. That said I do hope Kavadas is a Schwarber. And I hope Devers stays at 3b long term. Didn't Kavadas do pretty well against LHP this year? I remember him hitting some homeruns in clips against them. Then again, Niko pretty much hit everyone in the lower minors this year. He had a split in Salem, didn't in Greenville, and had a reverse split in Portland. I'm not sure there's reason for concern there at this point.
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Post by patford on Oct 2, 2022 10:13:07 GMT -5
Kavadas hit .222/.370/.333 with a 40% K rate and an extremely high in-zone whiff rate in Portland. I love his command of the zone and he hits the ball a ton when he hits it, but the concerns I (and scouts) had regarding his swing at higher levels have borne out so far - it's a SSS but the issues were exactly what you could see coming at lower levels. Not burying him or anything here but he does not factor into anything at the MLB level yet until he shows he can hit high-minors pitching. Right that 40% K rate is a bad look. It was a small sample and I wonder if that spell was typical of Kavadas when he's in a slump? We know just about all players go into funks where they look horrible for a stretch. Kavadas was extremely hot when he was promoted. I think (IIRC) the hot streak extended to his first few games with Portland and then he cratered. Hopefully he was less over matched than he just went into a slump. We will know by this time next year or earlier.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 2, 2022 10:30:04 GMT -5
Kavadas hit .222/.370/.333 with a 40% K rate and an extremely high in-zone whiff rate in Portland. I love his command of the zone and he hits the ball a ton when he hits it, but the concerns I (and scouts) had regarding his swing at higher levels have borne out so far - it's a SSS but the issues were exactly what you could see coming at lower levels. Not burying him or anything here but he does not factor into anything at the MLB level yet until he shows he can hit high-minors pitching. Right that 40% K rate is a bad look. It was a small sample and I wonder if that spell was typical of Kavadas when he's in a slump? We know just about all players go into funks where they look horrible for a stretch. Kavadas was extremely hot when he was promoted. I think (IIRC) the hot streak extended to his first few games with Portland and then he cratered. Hopefully he was less over matched than he just went into a slump. We will know by this time next year or earlier. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was adjusting to a new league, but of course if he comes out and struggles as badly in AA next season then that excuse goes out the window and the pundits would be correct, that he can't handle higher minor league level pitching. I'm hopeful he can, but I could be very irrational about this. If the scouting eyes say that he could very well struggle against high level pitching then I acknowledge I need to pump the brakes on my enthusiasm. My hope is that he hits enough to take advantage of his keen batting eye and massive power, but of course if he continues to whiff at 1/3 of the time or more in AA it won't bode well for him. But for the time being I'll hope he's just going through an adjustment period, the way Trot Nixon would do, not that he ever whiffed at 40%.
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Post by larrycook on Oct 2, 2022 13:12:11 GMT -5
Kavadas and binelas both hit the wall hard in Portland.
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Post by jimoh on Oct 2, 2022 19:42:22 GMT -5
How's his glove? Assuming he'd hit enough to DH, could he play a passible first base? Maybe, maybe not. "Field: Below-average defensive profile. Makes the routine plays, but has limited range. Played third base his first two years in college but has a first base-only profile as a professional. ... Not a strong defender, unclear how glove will play at first base." www.soxprospects.com/players/kavadas-niko.htm
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Post by taiwansox on Oct 2, 2022 20:29:05 GMT -5
How's his glove? Assuming he'd hit enough to DH, could he play a passible first base? Maybe, maybe not. "Field: Below-average defensive profile. Makes the routine plays, but has limited range. Played third base his first two years in college but has a first base-only profile as a professional. ... Not a strong defender, unclear how glove will play at first base." www.soxprospects.com/players/kavadas-niko.htmI remember seeing his draft videos playing third…I think half of this board would look better there (and yes I know we have several people who are 60+). Best case is a Daniel Vogelbach defensive profile imo
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Post by kevfc89 on Oct 25, 2022 8:50:15 GMT -5
good article on Kavadas in theathletic theathletic.com/3726477/2022/10/25/red-sox-prospect-niko-kavadas/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983'He’s a true believer in advanced analytics, a student of pregame scouting reports, and a patient hitter who’s modeled his game after Kyle Schwarber. When he talks about hitting, he talks process, not results.' “There are so many guys who can hit the ball 500 feet,” Kavadas said. “(But) they are free swingers, and they can’t create that count leverage, and they can’t create their pitch. That’s what you’re trying to do. You’re trying to create something that you can really drive. That might not be (on the first pitch), and Schwarber understands that. He’s working for the 3-1 (pitch). He’s working for the 2-1.”
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Post by nomar on Oct 25, 2022 10:15:04 GMT -5
good article on Kavadas in theathletic theathletic.com/3726477/2022/10/25/red-sox-prospect-niko-kavadas/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983'He’s a true believer in advanced analytics, a student of pregame scouting reports, and a patient hitter who’s modeled his game after Kyle Schwarber. When he talks about hitting, he talks process, not results.' “There are so many guys who can hit the ball 500 feet,” Kavadas said. “(But) they are free swingers, and they can’t create that count leverage, and they can’t create their pitch. That’s what you’re trying to do. You’re trying to create something that you can really drive. That might not be (on the first pitch), and Schwarber understands that. He’s working for the 3-1 (pitch). He’s working for the 2-1.” The Greek Geek
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Post by bosoxnation on Jan 23, 2023 12:06:07 GMT -5
MLB got him ranked 10th in the MLB in 1st Base Prospects. I think my man needs to be on our top 10 list overall!
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Post by 0ap0 on Jan 23, 2023 12:23:56 GMT -5
MLB got him ranked 10th in the MLB in 1st Base Prospects. I think my man needs to be on our top 10 list overall! First base prospects are, as a rule, somewhat flawed ball players. It's not as if SP has other minor league 1Bs ahead of him.
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