TearsIn04
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jun 27, 2022 20:54:48 GMT -5
The Triple A's are imploding in the seventh against the MFY. The C has been called for interference twice this inning. You truly can't make this shit up.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jun 27, 2022 20:56:11 GMT -5
I guess one way to look at it is Gausman is dealing. If we can't score it doesn't really matter how many the Jays score. Was hoping for a better showing from Seabold. Seemed like the Jays had very good reads on him. This was a difficult assignment. Confident he'll be better next time. Does he pitch Saturday in Wrigley? Hope the wind isn't blowing out. My thoughts exactly. You can lose 2-0 with Wacha or Pivetta pitching or you can lose 7-0 with a kid making his second career start against a potent Jays lineup. I'll take the latter and hope that the Sox bats can push a few runs across against Stripling (who they own) and Manoah with those other guys toeing the rubber.
AC saw what Gausman did against his club in April (14 IP, 11 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 17 K) and he probably figured it was as good a time as any to throw Seabold in there and take his chances with Wacha and Pivetta afterwards on an extra day of rest.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jun 27, 2022 20:56:41 GMT -5
Bases loaded 2B for racial taunter Josh Donaldson. MFY lead 6-5. Shoot me.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jun 27, 2022 21:02:16 GMT -5
The Triple A's are imploding in the seventh against the MFY. The C has been called for interference twice this inning. You truly can't make this shit up. The A's and Twins have a mental block when it comes to the MFYs and it pads the MFYs' record with an extra 3-5 wins per season compared to how those two teams play other clubs.
That said, the A's are hideous this year after their fire sale... I wonder which of the four catchers that they fielded in each game they played vs the Sox (one at C, one at 1B, one at 3B, one at DH) was guilty of the interference...
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Jun 27, 2022 21:06:07 GMT -5
Is Anderson their Diekman?
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Post by blizzards39 on Jun 27, 2022 21:10:08 GMT -5
Owens problem was that he had no idea where the ball was going and he was a one pitch pitcher. 93 is plenty of giddy up when you command it. Seabold just didn’t command it tonight. Last years 89/90 mph Seabold is a different story, that guy wasn’t big league quality But perhaps he is overthrowing, hence the uptick? Like I said, I could be wrong, but he looks like a AAAA guy. Winck looks like he could at least be a good reliever with his power sinker. That one pitch at least plays. Add other stuff in, which is possible from the looks, and there is no real comparison. At least there are real options. I remember to many years when it wasn’t the case
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jun 27, 2022 21:10:09 GMT -5
The Triple A's are imploding in the seventh against the MFY. The C has been called for interference twice this inning. You truly can't make this shit up. The A's and Twins have a mental block when it comes to the MFYs and it pads the MFYs' record with an extra 3-5 wins per season compared to how those two teams play other clubs.
That said, the A's are hideous this year after their fire sale... I wonder which of the four catchers that they fielded in each game they played vs the Sox (one at C, one at 1B, one at 3B, one at DH) was guilty of the interference...
The kid's name is Sean Murphy. The MFY's aren't going to be caught for the division or the first seed in the AL, so you may wonder why I still obsess about them. The reasons are: 1. Lifelong habits don't die and 2. I'd rather not see them win 120 games or even 110.
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Post by e on Jun 27, 2022 21:13:32 GMT -5
Winning streak had to end at some point. Let's hope they come out strong and take the next two.
As hard as Seabold was hit today, he did get 21 whiffs today, 3 more than Gausman. Clearly didn't have his A game today but that fastball up in the zone was working for him, just seemed to be a lot of inconsistent command with the slider and changeup. Hope to see another start from him in the future.
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Post by benzinger on Jun 27, 2022 21:28:56 GMT -5
I am not just going on results. He doesn’t impress me. Maybe I’ll eat those words, but he reminds me of Owens… just not quite enough giddyup for the Bigs. Are you nuts? One is from Newport Beach and one is from Huntington Beach. Completely different beaches! It’s true! Much better surf in Huntington. You can also bring your dog there.
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Post by benzinger on Jun 27, 2022 21:32:30 GMT -5
The A's and Twins have a mental block when it comes to the MFYs and it pads the MFYs' record with an extra 3-5 wins per season compared to how those two teams play other clubs.
That said, the A's are hideous this year after their fire sale... I wonder which of the four catchers that they fielded in each game they played vs the Sox (one at C, one at 1B, one at 3B, one at DH) was guilty of the interference...
The kid's name is Sean Murphy. The MFY's aren't going to be caught for the division or the first seed in the AL, so you may wonder why I still obsess about them. The reasons are: 1. Lifelong habits don't die and 2. I'd rather not see them win 120 games or even 110. Hall Of Famer Sean Murphy? The guy everyone on this board was pining for all Winter?
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Post by cdj on Jun 27, 2022 21:39:45 GMT -5
Owens problem was that he had no idea where the ball was going and he was a one pitch pitcher. 93 is plenty of giddy up when you command it. Seabold just didn’t command it tonight. Last years 89/90 mph Seabold is a different story, that guy wasn’t big league quality But perhaps he is overthrowing, hence the uptick? Like I said, I could be wrong, but he looks like a AAAA guy. Winck looks like he could at least be a good reliever with his power sinker. That one pitch at least plays. Add other stuff in, which is possible from the looks, and there is no real comparison. What he was throwing tonight velo-wise is pretty consistent with what he’s been throwing this year, didn’t seem to be overthrowing. Just seemed to be missing his spots by a bit. Which isn’t surprising, because again this is his first big league opportunity of the year against a high end lineup. People are way to quick to come to a conclusion on young players. Not everybody is gonna light the league on fire out of the gate. The vast majority do not. If you want to make a determination from one outing that he’s a AAAA guy then be my guest, people did similar questioning with Winckowski after his first start too and I was saying the same exact thing. FWIW there is absolutely a real comparison, they are quite literally back to back in the rankings on this site. Probably similarly ranked nationally too. Both have back end of the rotation upside and they don’t have a huge margin for error. I like Winckowski more myself and have been leading the charge on the “he’s a starter” train but there isn’t a huge gap between them. Also Seabold showed better swing and miss stuff tonight than Winckowski has shown so far, he got plenty of whiffs. He just also missed over the plate too much, because again, his command was off. Winckowski did that in his first outing too. That won’t work against talented 30+ HR guys. Lesson learned. Hopefully Seabold’s a little more himself next time out and he’s gotten the ants out of his pants. If we were talking about him last season I would absolutely agree that it’s AAAA stuff. That was not the issue tonight
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Post by wkdbigsoxfan on Jun 27, 2022 22:07:14 GMT -5
I don’t get the Austin Davis usage. I know he’s not Mr reliable but he’s decent. Three innings last Saturday in a blowout, then not used for a week, now one inning in a blowout? Thought he would be a candidate to be a multi inning guy after last week. Confusing
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Post by redsox43 on Jun 28, 2022 2:10:04 GMT -5
But perhaps he is overthrowing, hence the uptick? Like I said, I could be wrong, but he looks like a AAAA guy. Winck looks like he could at least be a good reliever with his power sinker. That one pitch at least plays. Add other stuff in, which is possible from the looks, and there is no real comparison. What he was throwing tonight velo-wise is pretty consistent with what he’s been throwing this year, didn’t seem to be overthrowing. Just seemed to be missing his spots by a bit. Which isn’t surprising, because again this is his first big league opportunity of the year against a high end lineup. People are way to quick to come to a conclusion on young players. Not everybody is gonna light the league on fire out of the gate. The vast majority do not. If you want to make a determination from one outing that he’s a AAAA guy then be my guest, people did similar questioning with Winckowski after his first start too and I was saying the same exact thing. FWIW there is absolutely a real comparison, they are quite literally back to back in the rankings on this site. Probably similarly ranked nationally too. Both have back end of the rotation upside and they don’t have a huge margin for error. I like Winckowski more myself and have been leading the charge on the “he’s a starter” train but there isn’t a huge gap between them. Also Seabold showed better swing and miss stuff tonight than Winckowski has shown so far, he got plenty of whiffs. He just also missed over the plate too much, because again, his command was off. Winckowski did that in his first outing too. That won’t work against talented 30+ HR guys. Lesson learned. Hopefully Seabold’s a little more himself next time out and he’s gotten the ants out of his pants. If we were talking about him last season I would absolutely agree that it’s AAAA stuff. That was not the issue tonight Seabold seems like a okay swingman. I can see the Sox carrying him until he runs out of options and then DFAing him. Winkowski is different because he does have bullpen potential. Seabold shouldn't have been matched up against the Jay's, the game was over before it started. Especially when matched up against Gausman.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 28, 2022 10:34:08 GMT -5
the AL East record stands out like a sore thumb at this point. I don't believe that any of those teams are really better than our squad.
The 2-6 v Toronto has to be mitigated directly over these next 2 games. No matter what they have done or will do, take care of this fact first and let's build from there.
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Post by huskies15 on Jun 28, 2022 13:56:15 GMT -5
At the very least, make it look like you belong on the field with them. Gausman's tough but last night was non-competitive after 2 innings.
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Post by cdj on Jun 28, 2022 16:30:53 GMT -5
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jun 28, 2022 18:09:10 GMT -5
Arroyo better not lose us this game in RF.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jun 28, 2022 18:11:35 GMT -5
Refsnyder has now reached safely in all 13 games with the Sox.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 28, 2022 18:16:05 GMT -5
Dammit.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 28, 2022 18:16:16 GMT -5
that didn't look like a strike
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Post by Guidas on Jun 28, 2022 18:27:42 GMT -5
The thought of Wacha pitching to a good team has made me nervous all year. I hope he doesn't prove me out on that.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jun 28, 2022 18:28:27 GMT -5
Umpires costing Sox runs again
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Post by cutz on Jun 28, 2022 18:32:20 GMT -5
that didn't look like a strike To Vladdy? I was wondering too.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 28, 2022 18:33:15 GMT -5
This is starting to remind me of last night. Only without the swings and misses.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 28, 2022 18:33:30 GMT -5
Welp, can't win every series.
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