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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Sept 28, 2022 18:30:12 GMT -5
Shortstop, abbreviated SS, is the baseball or softball fielding position between second and third base
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 28, 2022 22:04:33 GMT -5
My spidey senses tell me they sign Correa to a whopper early in free agency - Cora connection - Zero serious attempts to lock Bogaerts up - Correa's weird decision to sign that deal with that Twins, like he really just wanted to be a 2023 free agent instead Kinda feels like one of those stories you hear about from NBA free agency I agree he's going to an AL East team whose city begins with a "B" but I anticipate that he will sign with the Orioles who also have the Houston/Baltimore connection given that their GM and assistant GM have their Houston routes as well. And they've made it clear they have plenty of money to spend and have an opening at SS. I think the Sox are more likely to bring back Bogaerts than they are to spend even more money for Correa.
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Post by stunzisox on Sept 28, 2022 23:09:12 GMT -5
My spidey senses tell me they sign Correa to a whopper early in free agency - Cora connection - Zero serious attempts to lock Bogaerts up - Correa's weird decision to sign that deal with that Twins, like he really just wanted to be a 2023 free agent instead Kinda feels like one of those stories you hear about from NBA free agency I agree he's going to an AL East team whose city begins with a "B" but I anticipate that he will sign with the Orioles who also have the Houston/Baltimore connection given that their GM and assistant GM have their Houston routes as well. And they've made it clear they have plenty of money to spend and have an opening at SS. I think the Sox are more likely to bring back Bogaerts than they are to spend even more money for Correa. the guy Gunner Henderson is pretty good, no? BA’s number one overall prospect and their MILB player of the year. You really think they’re frothing at the mouth to pay big $ at SS when that guys already in the league and cost controlled for years to come?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 28, 2022 23:42:18 GMT -5
I agree he's going to an AL East team whose city begins with a "B" but I anticipate that he will sign with the Orioles who also have the Houston/Baltimore connection given that their GM and assistant GM have their Houston routes as well. And they've made it clear they have plenty of money to spend and have an opening at SS. I think the Sox are more likely to bring back Bogaerts than they are to spend even more money for Correa. the guy Gunner Henderson is pretty good, no? BA’s number one overall prospect and their MILB player of the year. You really think they’re frothing at the mouth to pay big $ at SS when that guys already in the league and cost controlled for years to come? Gunner Henderson is awesome. For a SS, the Orioles seem to play him an awful lot at 3b, even in the minors. You'd have thought he'd be strictly a SS but that hasn't been the case. It makes me think the Orioles see Henderson more as a 3b than a SS so yeah they could still use Correa. I know Jackson Holliday is a SS but he's quite far away from being ready. I think the Orioles will be very much in on Correa. Mike Elias and Eve Rosenbaum come from the Astros organization so there is that connection.
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Post by keninten on Sept 29, 2022 1:29:57 GMT -5
the guy Gunner Henderson is pretty good, no? BA’s number one overall prospect and their MILB player of the year. You really think they’re frothing at the mouth to pay big $ at SS when that guys already in the league and cost controlled for years to come? Gunner Henderson is awesome. For a SS, the Orioles seem to play him an awful lot at 3b, even in the minors. You'd have thought he'd be strictly a SS but that hasn't been the case. It makes me think the Orioles see Henderson more as a 3b than a SS so yeah they could still use Correa. I know Jackson Holliday is a SS but he's quite far away from being ready. I think the Orioles will be very much in on Correa. Mike Elias and Eve Rosenbaum come from the Astros organization so there is that connection. That isn`t always a good thing. They could just as well say don`t do it.
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Post by xdmo on Sept 29, 2022 8:09:54 GMT -5
My spidey senses tell me they sign Correa to a whopper early in free agency - Cora connection - Zero serious attempts to lock Bogaerts up - Correa's weird decision to sign that deal with that Twins, like he really just wanted to be a 2023 free agent instead Kinda feels like one of those stories you hear about from NBA free agency Would love to have Correa, and he makes more sense at age 28 season over Aaron Judge, but the Orioles are a threat like Champs mentioned. They have zero payroll obligations and plenty of money. Not sure if the Sox will offer the years to get Correa, so I think he's going to Baltimore. He could choose the Sox over the Orioles, but the offer would have to be in the same ballpark, you'd think. Having Cora helps. When Mayer is up in 3 years, move him to 3B and Devers (if he's still here) to DH.
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Sept 29, 2022 8:28:05 GMT -5
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Post by bigmarty58 on Sept 29, 2022 8:50:25 GMT -5
"Love the one you're with" my vote is to keep Xander!
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Post by Guidas on Sept 29, 2022 9:31:33 GMT -5
My spidey senses tell me they sign Correa to a whopper early in free agency - Cora connection - Zero serious attempts to lock Bogaerts up - Correa's weird decision to sign that deal with that Twins, like he really just wanted to be a 2023 free agent instead Kinda feels like one of those stories you hear about from NBA free agency I'd much rather have Turner if they are letting Xander walk. I cannot see this team under Bloom, already over the tax, setting the market on any major free agent, and especially on the two who may be the most expensive in AAV: Correa or Judge. Then again, my Spidey Sense™ is pretty awful. I mean, Doc Ock just sneaks up on me like every other year.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 29, 2022 9:33:38 GMT -5
I don't recall where I saw it (it may have been on SP.com), but it showed how much extra ground the hitter/base runner can cover on his way to first base based on the strength or weakness of the SS's arm. I was surprised how much extra ground the runner can cover if the throw is just a bit slower. In my mind, it made a pretty strong case for keeping Story at 2B, where he was excellent this year when he was in the lineup. And we'll have bases that are slightly bigger. Sometimes, that's all it takes.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 29, 2022 9:39:36 GMT -5
If the Angelos family had a clue - I know, oxymoron - they'd move this team to Nashville then sell. The value would jump by $500M-$1B just with the new location, all that swirling tech money and no state income taxes. Now that the D.C./Northern VA/MD market has a team, expanding the footprint should be an MLB priority. In fact, if MLB had a clue - another oxymoron - they would've bought out Tampa's lease and allowed them to move to Nashville or Charlotte. Ditto for the As to San Jose or San Antonio. The NFL would've done this 5 years ago.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 29, 2022 9:47:07 GMT -5
If the Angelos family had a clue - I know, oxymoron - they'd move this team to Nashville then sell. The value would jump by $500M-$1B just with the new location, all that swirling tech money and no state income taxes. Now that the D.C./Northern VA/MD market has a team, expanding the footprint should be an MLB priority. In fact, if MLB had a clue - another oxymoron - they would've bought out Tampa's lease and allowed them to move to Nashville or Charlotte. Ditto for the As to San Jose or San Antonio. The NFL would've done this 5 years ago. That's a depressing scenario that would be terrible for baseball.
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Post by awalkinthepark on Sept 29, 2022 9:47:34 GMT -5
My spidey senses tell me they sign Correa to a whopper early in free agency - Cora connection - Zero serious attempts to lock Bogaerts up - Correa's weird decision to sign that deal with that Twins, like he really just wanted to be a 2023 free agent instead Kinda feels like one of those stories you hear about from NBA free agency I agree he's going to an AL East team whose city begins with a "B" but I anticipate that he will sign with the Orioles who also have the Houston/Baltimore connection given that their GM and assistant GM have their Houston routes as well. And they've made it clear they have plenty of money to spend and have an opening at SS. I think the Sox are more likely to bring back Bogaerts than they are to spend even more money for Correa. Agree with this 100%. I think the Orioles are going to give him a contract similar to Seager. And Correa/Mullins/Rutschman/Henderson will make a really good core for the O's over the next few years.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 29, 2022 10:37:58 GMT -5
If the Angelos family had a clue - I know, oxymoron - they'd move this team to Nashville then sell. The value would jump by $500M-$1B just with the new location, all that swirling tech money and no state income taxes. Now that the D.C./Northern VA/MD market has a team, expanding the footprint should be an MLB priority. In fact, if MLB had a clue - another oxymoron - they would've bought out Tampa's lease and allowed them to move to Nashville or Charlotte. Ditto for the As to San Jose or San Antonio. The NFL would've done this 5 years ago. That's a depressing scenario that would be terrible for baseball. It would be a smart business move. Baltimore has a strong fan base but has been hemorrhaging population in the metro. Newcomers to MD/DC/Northern VA coming to work in the ever-expanding government and associated contributors tend to come with fan loyalties to other teams.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 29, 2022 10:49:14 GMT -5
That's a depressing scenario that would be terrible for baseball. It would be a smart business move. Baltimore has a strong fan base but has been hemorrhaging population in the metro. Newcomers to MD/DC/Northern VA coming to work in the ever-expanding government and associated contributors tend to come with fan loyalties to other teams. I guess if "having a clue" means being a psychopathic profit-maximizing goblin then you might be right.
Though Nashville is not large - the MSA has only 2 million people, compared to Baltimore's 2.8 million, and I'm very certain a larger share of Nashville's population consists of newcomers than Baltimore's. It also doesn't make much sense to me why it'd be more economical to start from scratch rather than building on an already existing fan base and stadium in Baltimore.
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Post by jimoh on Sept 29, 2022 11:11:05 GMT -5
"Love the one you're with" my vote is to keep Xander! hmmm, that song is about how when "your baby is away" you should hop on the "girl right next to you."
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Post by Guidas on Sept 29, 2022 11:55:08 GMT -5
It would be a smart business move. Baltimore has a strong fan base but has been hemorrhaging population in the metro. Newcomers to MD/DC/Northern VA coming to work in the ever-expanding government and associated contributors tend to come with fan loyalties to other teams. I guess if "having a clue" means being a psychopathic profit-maximizing goblin then you might be right.
Though Nashville is not large - the MSA has only 2 million people, compared to Baltimore's 2.8 million, and I'm very certain a larger share of Nashville's population consists of newcomers than Baltimore's. It also doesn't make much sense to me why it'd be more economical to start from scratch rather than building on an already existing fan base and stadium in Baltimore.
You'd also be drawing from statewide markets as well as Kentucky and parts of NC/SC/AL and MI. Winning will bring many more fans in, and both Balt - poised to win - and Tampa - perennial over the last several years - could have expansive marketing opportunities, especially with seat licensing and commercial partnerships in either Nashville or Charlotte.
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Post by nomar on Sept 29, 2022 12:07:54 GMT -5
My spidey senses tell me they sign Correa to a whopper early in free agency - Cora connection - Zero serious attempts to lock Bogaerts up - Correa's weird decision to sign that deal with that Twins, like he really just wanted to be a 2023 free agent instead Kinda feels like one of those stories you hear about from NBA free agency I'd much rather have Turner if they are letting Xander walk. I cannot see this team under Bloom, already over the tax, setting the market on any major free agent, and especially on the two who may be the most expensive in AAV: Correa or Judge. Then again, my Spidey Sense™ is pretty awful. I mean, Doc Ock just sneaks up on me like every other year. Please no. Do not sign another player on the cusp of 30 whose game is predicated on speed. Turner isn’t going to keep leading the league in infield hits forever (#1 this year and since 2017), and there isn’t anything special in the bat in terms of power. He could remain super fast/athletic until his mid 30s, but that’s not a safe bet IMO. He could be awesome, but the Carl Crawford PTSD is pretty strong for me here. Still would rather sign him than Swanson though. Correa doesn’t rely on his athleticism quite as much. He might get a couple million more in AAV, but to me the risk to reward is much better for him… Not that I necessarily think the Sox will be a big player for either.
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Post by iakovos11 on Sept 29, 2022 13:01:18 GMT -5
I guess if "having a clue" means being a psychopathic profit-maximizing goblin then you might be right.
Though Nashville is not large - the MSA has only 2 million people, compared to Baltimore's 2.8 million, and I'm very certain a larger share of Nashville's population consists of newcomers than Baltimore's. It also doesn't make much sense to me why it'd be more economical to start from scratch rather than building on an already existing fan base and stadium in Baltimore.
You'd also be drawing from statewide markets as well as Kentucky and parts of NC/SC/AL and MI. Winning will bring many more fans in, and both Balt - poised to win - and Tampa - perennial over the last several years - could have expansive marketing opportunities, especially with seat licensing and commercial partnerships in either Nashville or Charlotte. Are we talking about Shortstops? We should be. Let's get back on track guys.
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Post by xdmo on Sept 30, 2022 16:07:13 GMT -5
Correa already putting out there that best offer probably gets him to sign.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Sept 30, 2022 16:44:22 GMT -5
Boegarts is as good as gone. Story is the default answer.
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 30, 2022 18:32:08 GMT -5
Boegarts is as good as gone. Story is the default answer. I just can't pencil story in as the opening day SS. Sox have plenty of money to spend, arguably more than anyone else this offseason. SS is by far the strongest position available in FA this year. If you let Xander go without replacing him to slide story over, who do they go spend money on? Maybe Nimmo, but that's a worse team on paper than they are right now. I guess they could sign nimmo and rafi to an extension with the money saved but then they'd just be left another big hole at 2nd and in the lineup.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Sept 30, 2022 19:25:52 GMT -5
Boegarts is as good as gone. Story is the default answer. I just can't pencil story in as the opening day SS. Sox have plenty of money to spend, arguably more than anyone else this offseason. SS is by far the strongest position available in FA this year. If you let Xander go without replacing him to slide story over, who do they go spend money on? Maybe Nimmo, but that's a worse team on paper than they are right now. I guess they could sign nimmo and rafi to an extension with the money saved but then they'd just be left another big hole at 2nd and in the lineup. Between Carlos Correa and X, I would just re-sign X. It’s not like Correa hit 61 HRs or anything…..
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 30, 2022 21:59:17 GMT -5
Wanting to replace Xander is like the dog with the bone in his mouth who sees his reflection in the river and tries to grab its bone. Xander is already a great bone and he's likely to remain a great bone.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Oct 1, 2022 12:42:07 GMT -5
Boegarts is as good as gone. Story is the default answer. I just can't pencil story in as the opening day SS. Sox have plenty of money to spend, arguably more than anyone else this offseason. SS is by far the strongest position available in FA this year. If you let Xander go without replacing him to slide story over, who do they go spend money on? Maybe Nimmo, but that's a worse team on paper than they are right now. I guess they could sign nimmo and rafi to an extension with the money saved but then they'd just be left another big hole at 2nd and in the lineup. But who do you get on a one or two year deal? I'm assuming that they aren't committing to a long term SS because of Mayer. They have a ton of money coming off the books so they need to spend something. But they certainly aren't going to throw money around and they probably aren't going to "overpay" on what they feel a player is worth. They're doing great lip service when it comes to him lately but their actions speak otherwise. I expect Xander to end up in Philly St Louis or New York next year and Boston to shift Story to SS and keep Arroyo is the stop gap 2B for Nick Yorke. Maybe put Downs and Duran on the roster to keep the heat on Arroyo since Duran started out as a 2nd baseman.
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