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9/5-9/7 Red Sox @ Rays Series Thread
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Sept 5, 2022 18:34:25 GMT -5
how come none of these narration-less MLB commercials have Red Sox players ? I adamantly protest. Sure they do. Mookie! ….the $420,000,000 man….
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Post by xdmo on Sept 5, 2022 19:33:13 GMT -5
Well… that might be the next stage. I think Margot has one year left for any future regrets. He seems like a guy Tampa trades before they lose him in free agency. (Expect a Manuel Margot trade this winter for a prospect that somehow appears as a actual MLB player because the Rays have a golden spoon or paid off the baseball gods at one point).
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Post by cdj on Sept 5, 2022 20:00:23 GMT -5
Games on Cora IMO, you don’t go to Familia with a 1 run lead. Pretty much my only thought about this game. He’s had a lot of these wtf moments this season. A bad bullpen can make a manager look bad, the manager made himself look bad here though. WHY NOT JUST GO WITH KELLY??? He’s the far superior pitcher, Familia was just cut loose by a team that’s been looking for relievers since Jonathan Freaking Papelbon was in the league
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 5, 2022 20:05:51 GMT -5
Saw them in Soringfield Jan 15 1979. Somebody actually posted the show on Youtube sound only.
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 5, 2022 20:12:53 GMT -5
Well… that might be the next stage. I think Margot has one year left for any future regrets. He seems like a guy Tampa trades before they lose him in free agency. (Expect a Manuel Margot trade this winter for a prospect that somehow appears as a actual MLB player because the Rays have a golden spoon or paid off the baseball gods at one point). One of the beat writers was speculating a month or so ago that Tampa might part ways with Kiermaier this winter and further speculated that Bloom might have interest. If he could be had on the cheap that would be "so Bloom".
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Post by cdj on Sept 5, 2022 20:17:11 GMT -5
I think Margot has one year left for any future regrets. He seems like a guy Tampa trades before they lose him in free agency. (Expect a Manuel Margot trade this winter for a prospect that somehow appears as a actual MLB player because the Rays have a golden spoon or paid off the baseball gods at one point). One of the beat writers was speculating a month or so ago that Tampa might part ways with Kiermaier this winter and further speculated that Bloom might have interest. If he could be had on the cheap that would be "so Bloom". That would be cool by me, dudes been worth like 32 bWAR/24 fWAR in his career and the defense hasn’t slowed down, even with all the injuries. Now they would need to have an insurance plan for him because he WILL get hurt but he’s always been a damn good player when on the field, even in years like this year where the bat lags far behind the glove Maybe give both him and Kikè the 2/14 Kikè got a couple years back. Kikè can supersub and fill in as the full time CF when KK is inevitably injured. Kikè would be a “bench” player under this plan but he’d still be playing 4-5 days a week
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Post by cdj on Sept 5, 2022 20:43:24 GMT -5
….should’ve just gone to Kelly then….
9th inning- somebody else other than Familia! Boom, problem-solved. Familia is garbage time only DFA fodder
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Post by xdmo on Sept 5, 2022 20:54:49 GMT -5
….should’ve just gone to Kelly then…. 9th inning- somebody else other than Familia! Boom, problem-solved. Familia is garbage time only DFA fodder Cora preventing 2023 strain and losses. Kelly will get his chances eventually. In any event, tank against any AL East opponents that's not named New York. I know it's like picking between cancer and Covid, but pick your poison here.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 5, 2022 21:09:47 GMT -5
….should’ve just gone to Kelly then…. 9th inning- somebody else other than Familia! Boom, problem-solved. Familia is garbage time only DFA fodder Most of the bullpen is DFA fodder frankly. I mean, Whitlock and Schreiber were down. Other than Strahm I can't think of anybody else I'd want to see in the game. Any close game where they had to hold onto the lead wasn't going to work today. The pen has practically no depth. The Rays cut a guy today in Wisler who is probably better than most of the guys who have "graced" the Sox bullpen this year.
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Post by cdj on Sept 5, 2022 21:29:42 GMT -5
….should’ve just gone to Kelly then…. 9th inning- somebody else other than Familia! Boom, problem-solved. Familia is garbage time only DFA fodder Most of the bullpen is DFA fodder frankly. I mean, Whitlock and Schreiber were down. Other than Strahm I can't think of anybody else I'd want to see in the game. Any close game where they had to hold onto the lead wasn't going to work today. The pen has practically no depth. The Rays cut a guy today in Wisler who is probably better than most of the guys who have "graced" the Sox bullpen this year. Honestly if Danish wasn’t down then I would much rather have him in than Familia. Ended up almost using Kelly for 2 innings anyway, might as well have just led off with him then give Strahm the 9th if it got that far. Familia is the last guy in that pen imo Or if they know they’re down a few arms bring German with you and DFA Familia.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 5, 2022 21:42:58 GMT -5
Most of the bullpen is DFA fodder frankly. I mean, Whitlock and Schreiber were down. Other than Strahm I can't think of anybody else I'd want to see in the game. Any close game where they had to hold onto the lead wasn't going to work today. The pen has practically no depth. The Rays cut a guy today in Wisler who is probably better than most of the guys who have "graced" the Sox bullpen this year. Honestly if Danish wasn’t down then I would much rather have him in than Familia. Ended up almost using Kelly for 2 innings anyway, might as well have just led off with him then give Strahm the 9th if it got that far. Familia is the last guy in that pen imo Or if they know they’re down a few arms bring German with you and DFA Familia. That last thought would be up to Bloom. I don't see any point in having Familia around at this point. I'd rather see what German can do. I forgot Danish was back.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 5, 2022 22:05:37 GMT -5
It's over - we are out of it. Brasier, Familia need to go. Bring up German - Crawford should be back soon. DFA Plawecki too.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 6, 2022 5:13:37 GMT -5
Saw them in Soringfield Jan 15 1979. Somebody actually posted the show on Youtube sound only. Cool... I was a bit to young for that, although late 70's Dead is my favorite era. I saw them first in Syracuse in '84 and it was quite a culture shock for an upstate NY boy who grew up in a basically white, conservative leaning suburbia. It took me a while to get what the scene was about. LOL. Good set list. Terrapin. I am sure it was good, clean fun. Archive.org basically has every show they ever played. I check it out every now and again.
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Post by baseballguy350 on Sept 6, 2022 7:33:09 GMT -5
Statistically improbable to hate the Trop more than I do...
In games that I have attended:
Last Night
July 12 - 3-2 Loss (Story HBP Injury and Comedy of Throwing Errors)
April 23 - 3-2 Loss (Kiermaier Walk Off HR in 10th)
January 9, 2022 - BONUS Patriots lose at Dolphins
October 7, 2021 - ALDS Game 1 - 5-0 Loss (Arozarena Steals Home + Cruz HR off the catwalk I thought Kiké was going to catch)
September 12, 2021 - BONUS Patriots lose at Dolphins
August 30, 2021 - 6-1 Loss (Nothing memorable happened!)
July 31, 2021 - 9-5 Loss (Fall to second place)
June 24, 2021 - 1-0 Loss (Barnes Wild Pitch WalkOff after the Pivetta No-No)
September 23, 2019 - 7-4 Loss (Betts ridiculous throw from right field)
December 9, 2018 - BONUS Miami Miracle - Patriots Lose on the ridiculous hook and ladder, why the F was Gronk playing free safety?
May 24, 2018 - 6-3 Loss (I don't remember this game)
April 30, 2018 - BONUS Bruins Lose 4-2 vs. Lightning in ECSemis
March 29, 2018 - 6-4 Loss (Opening Day)
October 5, 2017 - Patriots Beat the Bucs at Raymond James - The last Boston team win I saw in person in Florida.
To be fair, I saw Verdugo walk off the Indians last year at Fenway (9/4)
It's more than a running joke at this point. You could make some serious money fading me when I'm in attendance. 0-9 at The Trop. I feel like I did see a win in 2016, but I can't find tickets in my StubHub account that show I went.
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Post by mobaz on Sept 6, 2022 7:42:35 GMT -5
Statistically improbable to hate the Trop more than I do... In games that I have attended:Last Night July 12 - 3-2 Loss (Story HBP Injury and Comedy of Throwing Errors) April 23 - 3-2 Loss (Kiermaier Walk Off HR in 10th) January 9, 2022 - BONUS Patriots lose at Dolphins October 7, 2021 - ALDS Game 1 - 5-0 Loss (Arozarena Steals Home + Cruz HR off the catwalk I thought Kiké was going to catch) September 12, 2021 - BONUS Patriots lose at Dolphins August 30, 2021 - 6-1 Loss (Nothing memorable happened!) July 31, 2021 - 9-5 Loss (Fall to second place) June 24, 2021 - 1-0 Loss (Barnes Wild Pitch WalkOff after the Pivetta No-No) September 23, 2019 - 7-4 Loss (Betts ridiculous throw from right field) December 9, 2018 - BONUS Miami Miracle - Patriots Lose on the ridiculous hook and ladder, why the F was Gronk playing free safety? May 24, 2018 - 6-3 Loss (I don't remember this game) April 30, 2018 - BONUS Bruins Lose 4-2 vs. Lightning in ECSemis March 29, 2018 - 6-4 Loss (Opening Day) October 5, 2017 - Patriots Beat the Bucs at Raymond James - The last Boston team win I saw in person in Florida.To be fair, I saw Verdugo walk off the Indians last year at Fenway (9/4) It's more than a running joke at this point. You could make some serious money fading me when I'm in attendance. 0-9 at The Trop. I feel like I did see a win in 2016, but I can't find tickets in my StubHub account that show I went. Maybe don't head to Miami on Sunday, if you don't mind? I'd like Mac Year 2 to start off better than the house of horrors Miami games have been for the Pats (that we can now blame on you). It's statistics. Also, what happens if you go to a Rays-Yankees game? Does your power empower the Rays (good thing against MFY!) or screw Boston teams (so MFY would get the power)? Might be worth testing sometime if you can stand watching those two teams at once.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Sept 6, 2022 7:42:58 GMT -5
Ok, the streak is over. So what, lets go win another 5 in a row. Win 5 lose 1, win 5 lose 1. Or not
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Post by baseballguy350 on Sept 6, 2022 7:46:43 GMT -5
Maybe don't head to Miami on Sunday, if you don't mind? I'd like Mac Year 2 to start off better than the house of horrors Miami games have been for the Pats (that we can now blame on you). It's statistics. Also, what happens if you go to a Rays-Yankees game? Does your power empower the Rays (good thing against MFY!) or screw Boston teams (so MFY would get the power)? Might be worth testing sometime if you can stand watching those two teams at once. [/quote] I took the weekend off with every intention of driving over. I can't do it to myself.
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 6, 2022 9:27:24 GMT -5
Saw them in Soringfield Jan 15 1979. Somebody actually posted the show on Youtube sound only. Cool... I was a bit to young for that, although late 70's Dead is my favorite era. I saw them first in Syracuse in '84 and it was quite a culture shock for an upstate NY boy who grew up in a basically white, conservative leaning suburbia. It took me a while to get what the scene was about. LOL. Good set list. Terrapin. I am sure it was good, clean fun. Archive.org basically has every show they ever played. I check it out every now and again. If you have a couple hours to kill at some point you can listen on YT as I mentioned. It was a good set list, Jerry was good Jerry, and any show that opens with Jack Straw is a good show. The bad: Donna who I never thought was a good fit, can be heard prominently.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 6, 2022 16:24:41 GMT -5
Is there a page or site that lists what the current replacement levels are for each position? Thanks!
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Sept 6, 2022 16:51:46 GMT -5
Ok, the streak is over. So what, lets go win another 5 in a row. Win 5 lose 1, win 5 lose 1. Or not Not against teams than can potentially hand NY an embarrassing, historical collapse.
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Post by cheers on Sept 6, 2022 17:50:54 GMT -5
Nice. This game may be over before Hill records an out.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 6, 2022 17:50:59 GMT -5
three quick outs for us, two on and a three run dinger for them. Wow...life comes at you fast, Rich Hill.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 6, 2022 17:52:57 GMT -5
Nice. This game may be over before Hill records an out. hey pal. heading out in the yard - rain stopped, dogs need a romp. will check in later. not an auspicious start.
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Post by cheers on Sept 6, 2022 17:55:20 GMT -5
Nice. This game may be over before Hill records an out. hey pal. heading out in the yard - rain stopped, dogs need a romp. will check in later. not an auspicious start. Dog walking has turned more than one game around. Good call.
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Post by redsoxpride34 on Sept 6, 2022 17:55:47 GMT -5
It's over - we are out of it. Brasier, Familia need to go. Bring up German - Crawford should be back soon. DFA Plawecki too. Couldn't agree more. The fact that Plawecki is still here even with wong and mcguire up is baffling. Braiser and familia definitely need go too. They wont be back next year so why waste an opportunity to get a look at guys like German and Politi? Send rich hill with them and get winckowski back up. Ort should go too, bring seabold back up. I'd also like to get a look at Ronaldo hernandez and Enmanuel Valdez. Heck, at some point perhaps Bryan Mata makes the jump back up from AAA. Time to focus on 2023.
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