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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 11, 2022 6:05:28 GMT -5
I can’t get on the “this is a great defense” bandwagon. It might be, but I’ve seen this story a lot the last few years. Starts off great, but does it fade? Remember when the great defenses built thru the year and peaked at the end? Also, Bill can almost always take advantage of mediocre to bad QBs…. But is Buffalo going to run right thru them again? We won’t know anything until we see something like that. The good thing, they really don’t play many teams that fit this description.
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Post by cdj on Oct 11, 2022 10:35:47 GMT -5
I think it’s a top 10 defense. Not the best in the league, but when Judon is healthy they get good pressure on the QB and I like their secondary when Myles Bryant isn’t on the field to pick on
Looks like Harris is gonna miss a few weeks. I wonder if we see Harris #2 promoted from the PS
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 11, 2022 11:59:30 GMT -5
Strong may just suck, but it’s hard to fully judge based on what’s in front of him. Stephenson has been so good and, like you said, a good third down back, so where does Strong even fit? Especially if Monty is healthy. I like Stevenson over Monty because he can run and yeah he's not bad. It nice compared to White. What if Strong can also run, yet adds big play ability like we basically never had? Have we ever had a RB with sub 4.4 speed? Last game Stevenson broke a big run, yet got run down. Something that happens to him and Harris. Would be nice to have an option that can add that HR threat. It's what this offense lacks to go to another level, Strong and Thornton add elite speed and big play ability if they become players. My problem with drafting Strong, is why most agree he has the natural physical ability you want in a 3rd down back, he didn't do that in college. Might take hin a year to get ready if he can even do it. They sat Harris a full year because they didn't like his blocking or picking up the rush, all while our actual RBs sucked. We have two starting level RBs now and Harris did a lot more of it in College. As much as I want Bill to resign Harris, he likely doesn't. Writing was kinda on the wall picking two RBs this year. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 11, 2022 12:31:12 GMT -5
I can’t get on the “this is a great defense” bandwagon. It might be, but I’ve seen this story a lot the last few years. Starts off great, but does it fade? Remember when the great defenses built thru the year and peaked at the end? Also, Bill can almost always take advantage of mediocre to bad QBs…. But is Buffalo going to run right thru them again? We won’t know anything until we see something like that. The good thing, they really don’t play many teams that fit this description. Great? I don't see that until we address our LBs, Tavai and Bentley are something good teams can exploit. Let's hope Collins can get up to speed quickly and still has it. Nevermind if McGrone figures things out at some point and gets promoted. Top 10 type D I can see if we get lucky with Injuries. Last year Jones lost for season was huge because it ment Bryant and the Bills killed him. Then Judon while not missing games got banged up and lost his explosion. Remember a certain poster saying it was just the league figuring him out? We just have much more depth at DB and we'll need it versus Bills as they have more firepower now. By boy Shakir just went off last game. So if instead of getting Bryant, we get Marcus Jones that's huge. Jack Jones has the highest PFF grade of all CB, yeah it's early and doesn't mean much. Mills still worries me, yet you can now in theory make him #3 outside CB. That's massive as Williams was our #3 outside guy last year. I've seen Barmore isn't getting moved around hunting for 1 vs 1. Yet still disappointed, maybe he's working on his run D. Yet I want to see the flashes of brilliance we got to see last year. Robert's is just starting to get snaps. If they can stay healthy, you have added depth and a bunch of young guys that could get better. Have to give a shout out to Jones PFF #5 CB, yet playing outside. That's one of the more surprising things so far this year, even though he did play outside in College. Still to be elite they likely need an elite LB or at minimum someone with good speed and athletic ability. |
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Post by mobaz on Oct 11, 2022 13:31:56 GMT -5
I can’t get on the “this is a great defense” bandwagon. It might be, but I’ve seen this story a lot the last few years. Starts off great, but does it fade? Remember when the great defenses built thru the year and peaked at the end? Also, Bill can almost always take advantage of mediocre to bad QBs…. But is Buffalo going to run right thru them again? We won’t know anything until we see something like that. The good thing, they really don’t play many teams that fit this description. Great? I don't see that until we address our LBs, Tavai and Bentley are something good teams can exploit. Let's hope Collins can get up to speed quickly and still has it. Nevermind if McGrone figures things out at some point and gets promoted. Top 10 type D I can see if we get lucky with Injuries. Last year Jones lost for season was huge because it ment Bryant and the Bills killed him. Then Judon while not missing games got banged up and lost his explosion. Remember a certain poster saying it was just the league figuring him out? We just have much more depth at DB and we'll need it versus Bills as they have more firepower now. By boy Shakir just went off last game. So if instead of getting Bryant, we get Marcus Jones that's huge. Jack Jones has the highest PFF grade of all CB, yeah it's early and doesn't mean much. Mills still worries me, yet you can now in theory make him #3 outside CB. That's massive as Williams was our #3 outside guy last year. I've seen Barmore isn't getting moved around hunting for 1 vs 1. Yet still disappointed, maybe he's working on his run D. Yet I want to see the flashes of brilliance we got to see last year. Robert's is just starting to get snaps. If they can stay healthy, you have added depth and a bunch of young guys that could get better. Have to give a shout out to Jones PFF #5 CB, yet playing outside. That's one of the more surprising things so far this year, even though he did play outside in College. Still to be elite they likely need an elite LB or at minimum someone with good speed and athletic ability. Since we have 10 joneses I'm assuming you're meaning Jonathan. Also amazing coming off an injury, in a much bigger role, he's best football of his career. Also an UFA at the end of the season so we might be back in the market again. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 11, 2022 14:36:17 GMT -5
Great? I don't see that until we address our LBs, Tavai and Bentley are something good teams can exploit. Let's hope Collins can get up to speed quickly and still has it. Nevermind if McGrone figures things out at some point and gets promoted. Top 10 type D I can see if we get lucky with Injuries. Last year Jones lost for season was huge because it ment Bryant and the Bills killed him. Then Judon while not missing games got banged up and lost his explosion. Remember a certain poster saying it was just the league figuring him out? We just have much more depth at DB and we'll need it versus Bills as they have more firepower now. By boy Shakir just went off last game. So if instead of getting Bryant, we get Marcus Jones that's huge. Jack Jones has the highest PFF grade of all CB, yeah it's early and doesn't mean much. Mills still worries me, yet you can now in theory make him #3 outside CB. That's massive as Williams was our #3 outside guy last year. I've seen Barmore isn't getting moved around hunting for 1 vs 1. Yet still disappointed, maybe he's working on his run D. Yet I want to see the flashes of brilliance we got to see last year. Robert's is just starting to get snaps. If they can stay healthy, you have added depth and a bunch of young guys that could get better. Have to give a shout out to Jones PFF #5 CB, yet playing outside. That's one of the more surprising things so far this year, even though he did play outside in College. Still to be elite they likely need an elite LB or at minimum someone with good speed and athletic ability. Since we have 10 joneses I'm assuming you're meaning Jonathan. Also amazing coming off an injury, in a much bigger role, he's best football of his career. Also an UFA at the end of the season so we might be back in the market again. Maybe, but he’s 5’10… I’m not sure how many small corners like him get huge contracts… might be right in Bills wheelhouse |
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Post by cdj on Oct 11, 2022 16:13:34 GMT -5
McMillan had a drive where he ran step for step with a RB in coverage and then stuffed a run in the backfield a couple plays later. I want to see more of him at backer
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Post by texs31 on Oct 11, 2022 17:15:44 GMT -5
Gutierrez released from PS. Pats likely hoping they can get Humphrey back to fill that spot.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 12, 2022 11:14:28 GMT -5
So what's the move with open roster spot? Jamie Collins for revenge game versus Browns?
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Post by cdj on Oct 12, 2022 14:08:20 GMT -5
LB Calvin Munson is filling that empty PS squad, having another tour around these parts
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Post by texs31 on Oct 12, 2022 19:17:33 GMT -5
Sounds like they'll be looking for a spot for Lil'Jordan too. Cleared waivers and still has a locker.
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Post by cdj on Oct 13, 2022 12:45:33 GMT -5
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Post by texs31 on Oct 13, 2022 16:13:39 GMT -5
Harris to 53, per McBride. Given Lazars report, I believe there is still 1 spot on the PS then (unless Vizcainos absence was for a different reason than getting cut).
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 14, 2022 10:06:53 GMT -5
Why move him to the 53 rather than just call him up for game day? Harris and Montgomery are going to be back and you'll just have to expose him to waivers. If he does well teams will claim him. RB is the easiest position for new guys to play in an offense, also has a high injury rate.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 14, 2022 11:38:06 GMT -5
Why move him to the 53 rather than just call him up for game day? Harris and Montgomery are going to be back and you'll just have to expose him to waivers. If he does well teams will claim him. RB is the easiest position for new guys to play in an offense, also has a high injury rate. Not sure how this works so question. If they just elevate him, and he plays well, can’t another team just sign him off the practice squad anyways? Is him having to pass thru waivers more difficult for a reason? |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Oct 14, 2022 13:08:50 GMT -5
Why move him to the 53 rather than just call him up for game day? Harris and Montgomery are going to be back and you'll just have to expose him to waivers. If he does well teams will claim him. RB is the easiest position for new guys to play in an offense, also has a high injury rate. Not sure how this works so question. If they just elevate him, and he plays well, can’t another team just sign him off the practice squad anyways? Is him having to pass thru waivers more difficult for a reason? Yes. And it's been speculated elsewhere the early promotion might be in response to another team's Top 53 offer. Lil' Jordan just (successfully) went through this process. Whatever the factors involved I feel confident Bill & Co. have sussed it out. Btw, no CB Ward or DE Clowney for Sunday. Bodes well for getting a W. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 14, 2022 13:45:15 GMT -5
Why move him to the 53 rather than just call him up for game day? Harris and Montgomery are going to be back and you'll just have to expose him to waivers. If he does well teams will claim him. RB is the easiest position for new guys to play in an offense, also has a high injury rate. Not sure how this works so question. If they just elevate him, and he plays well, can’t another team just sign him off the practice squad anyways? Is him having to pass thru waivers more difficult for a reason? The first way he has to agree and gives Patriots a chance to match. Passing through waivers means anyone can claim him and Harris has no choice. |
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Post by texs31 on Oct 15, 2022 14:00:01 GMT -5
Agholor and Jonathan Jones ruled out.
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Post by cdj on Oct 15, 2022 15:58:31 GMT -5
Gilbert and Lil-J elevated for tomorrow
Hopefully Wade sees the field over Bryant tomorrow
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Post by marrcus on Oct 15, 2022 16:29:42 GMT -5
I'd like to pick the Pats in a Browns road game but it's close, so no. If they can keep the turnovers to bare minimum and get good production from Folk they should be there at the end. Another W for Zappe before they make the expected QB change-back would be a nice way to go.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 16, 2022 6:34:55 GMT -5
Not sure how this works so question. If they just elevate him, and he plays well, can’t another team just sign him off the practice squad anyways? Is him having to pass thru waivers more difficult for a reason? The first way he has to agree and gives Patriots a chance to match. Passing through waivers means anyone can claim him and Harris has no choice. So maybe that’s our answer… perhaps the Patriots are just matching here. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 16, 2022 11:19:41 GMT -5
The first way he has to agree and gives Patriots a chance to match. Passing through waivers means anyone can claim him and Harris has no choice. So maybe that’s our answer… perhaps the Patriots are just matching here. Do you actually believe that? |
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 16, 2022 12:15:58 GMT -5
This team has the dumbest group of O-lines and tight ends.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 16, 2022 12:32:15 GMT -5
I thought if pushed out as long as you come right back in, you can catch it?
Zappe is impressive and Browns are selling out to stop run.
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 16, 2022 12:37:11 GMT -5
Not sure whose been worse this quarter - Wynn or the refs.
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