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9/26-9/29 Red Sox vs. Orioles Series Thread
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 27, 2022 9:11:34 GMT -5
This bullpen is putting the team on its back. They’re working hard on getting us the best draft pick possible. Throw in a few more Seabold starts and we might just pull off getting the first overall pick!
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Post by xdmo on Sept 27, 2022 13:38:29 GMT -5
This bullpen is putting the team on its back. They’re working hard on getting us the best draft pick possible. Throw in a few more Seabold starts and we might just pull off getting the first overall pick! Looks like the the Sox are going to hold firm at the 12th or 13th spot in the draft order unless the Cubs or Angels go on a 5-7 game winning streak. If the Twins or White Sox lose 5-7 more times, the Sox could pick 14th or 15th. Definitely would like a top 6 pick, but probably dreaming here. Never thought Seabold or this bullpen would help out this team in any scenario, but I guess here we are lol. Go Seabold, give up as many homeruns as possible.
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Post by gerry on Sept 27, 2022 14:30:12 GMT -5
I had a nightmare last night that Eric Hosmer was on the Red Sox. And he was in Kansas City getting a standing ovation...while in a Sox uniform. I woke up in a cold sweat. I am surprised that Hosmer is your âvictim of the weekâ. Nightmares? Hyperbole?? He bears no responsibility for the 2022 Sox fail, is a Casas mentor, a steadying veteran presence in the face of losing vets like JDM, Pham, CVS, Plawecki, maybe XB and more, costs us league minimum, does have an actual Fenway swing, and is a genuine good guy and clubhouse guy with postseason experience. ironically, I had a very pleasant dream of a rebuilt Sox team going forward, and Hosmer was definitely on it. As the 26th man, coming off the bench to play above average D at 1B, or at DH and PH especially where he shines as a LHB vs RHP. In my happy dream Chaim Bloom finally replaced Schwarberâs and Renfroeâs bats, and JDMâs, with a RHB at DH (with Hosmer to back him), a powerful COF with solid D, (with Ref to back him), plus Casas at 1B (with Hosmer to back him and steady him) plus and finally Storey at 2B (backed by Arroyo). Add XB, Raffy and your âpoor hittingâVerdugo, plus Kiké, McGuire and Wong and we have much improved defense and offense, and some speed on the base paths. And, of course, I dreamed of LOTS of new pitching. What a happy dream. And you had sweaty, fearful nightmares of Eric Hosmer coming off the bench? May I recommend Valerian and Hops?!?!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 27, 2022 17:34:42 GMT -5
where you all been ? What are you quitting on the boys ? WEAK !!!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 27, 2022 17:41:05 GMT -5
looking at the records this year, there seems to be a shot to make the playoffs with just 90 wins or less That makes this season hurt a little more. We had the players to do it. Just a lot of injuries and some of our best guys falling off the face of the earth.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 27, 2022 18:00:03 GMT -5
looking at the records this year, there seems to be a shot to make the playoffs with just 90 wins or less That makes this season hurt a little more. We had the players to do it. Just a lot of injuries and some of our best guys falling off the face of the earth.Yep. A lot of it is bad luck. But a lot is also the cost of not having a lucid long-term plan. Price, Martinez, and Eovaldi are all in the last year of big long-term deals, when you should pretty much expect guys to be a drag on the team, and the $55 million spent on those 3 has yielded a cool 0.8 WAR. (Good reason to not have a lot of big contracts all expiring at the same time!) Add on another $26 million and 0.2 WAR with Sale, an obvious injury risk when he was extended, and that's $81 million to produce 1 win. These seeds were all planted years ago.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 27, 2022 18:22:06 GMT -5
looking at the records this year, there seems to be a shot to make the playoffs with just 90 wins or less That makes this season hurt a little more. We had the players to do it. Just a lot of injuries and some of our best guys falling off the face of the earth.Yep. A lot of it is bad luck. But a lot is also the cost of not having a lucid long-term plan. Price, Martinez, and Eovaldi are all in the last year of big long-term deals, when you should pretty much expect guys to be a drag on the team, and the $55 million spent on those 3 has yielded a cool 0.8 WAR. (Good reason to not have a lot of big contracts all expiring at the same time!) Add on another $26 million and 0.2 WAR with Sale, an obvious injury risk when he was extended, and that's $81 million to produce 1 win. These seeds were all planted years ago.You had to go there, didn't you ? I mean, those were on the books last year also. Cogent argument, but it supposes that if you had that money you would engender more wins. That isn't necessarily the case. Besides, this team appears to only have had to win 88 games to be in the mix. That was completely attainable, before the year played out as it has.
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Post by xdmo on Sept 27, 2022 18:26:57 GMT -5
Yep. A lot of it is bad luck. But a lot is also the cost of not having a lucid long-term plan. Price, Martinez, and Eovaldi are all in the last year of big long-term deals, when you should pretty much expect guys to be a drag on the team, and the $55 million spent on those 3 has yielded a cool 0.8 WAR. (Good reason to not have a lot of big contracts all expiring at the same time!) Add on another $26 million and 0.2 WAR with Sale, an obvious injury risk when he was extended, and that's $81 million to produce 1 win. These seeds were all planted years ago.You had to go there, didn't you ? I mean, those were on the books last year also. Cogent argument, but it supposes that if you had that money you would engender more wins. That isn't necessarily the case. Besides, this team appears to only have had to win 88 games to be in the mix. That was completely attainable, before the year played out as it has. The good news is that you got a healthy Whitlock, Bello, Casas, and (hopefully) Sale to start next year. A lot of young players like Mata and Ward could join the mix. The wild card format isn't going away and you're playing against your division a lot less from 2023 on. The Sox just need to spend money and pick the right players to spend it on.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 27, 2022 18:32:44 GMT -5
You had to go there, didn't you ? I mean, those were on the books last year also. Cogent argument, but it supposes that if you had that money you would engender more wins. That isn't necessarily the case. Besides, this team appears to only have had to win 88 games to be in the mix. That was completely attainable, before the year played out as it has. The good news is that you got a healthy Whitlock, Bello, Casas, and (hopefully) Sale to start next year. A lot of young players like Mata and Ward could join the mix. The wild card format isn't going away and you're playing against your division a lot less from 2023 on. The Sox just need to spend money and pick the right players to spend it on. yep. and the good news is we have the guy to do it, as opposed to someone like DD.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 27, 2022 18:50:10 GMT -5
Yep. A lot of it is bad luck. But a lot is also the cost of not having a lucid long-term plan. Price, Martinez, and Eovaldi are all in the last year of big long-term deals, when you should pretty much expect guys to be a drag on the team, and the $55 million spent on those 3 has yielded a cool 0.8 WAR. (Good reason to not have a lot of big contracts all expiring at the same time!) Add on another $26 million and 0.2 WAR with Sale, an obvious injury risk when he was extended, and that's $81 million to produce 1 win. These seeds were all planted years ago.You had to go there, didn't you ? I mean, those were on the books last year also. Cogent argument, but it supposes that if you had that money you would engender more wins. That isn't necessarily the case. Besides, this team appears to only have had to win 88 games to be in the mix. That was completely attainable, before the year played out as it has. Those were on the books last year, but JDM and Eovaldi were both a year a younger and it's not totally a coincidence that they got a lot more out of those two last year.
The glass half full take is that, yeah, they were a few breaks from being a competitive this year despite the roster mismanagement which is a testament to some of the successes of the 2010s, like developing Bogaerts and Devers and Mookie (who got them Verdugo and helped them get out of half of the Price money they owed).
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 27, 2022 18:50:52 GMT -5
Casas is a beast
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 27, 2022 18:50:54 GMT -5
Casas can hit it a long way.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 27, 2022 18:52:08 GMT -5
How is every single Casas batted ball either a moonshot or a dribbler to second base?
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 27, 2022 18:52:22 GMT -5
Sometimes your OPS is 44 points better than league average despite a .094 BABIP lmao
Casas is a beast. Lock him up this offseason.
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 27, 2022 18:53:19 GMT -5
111 EV 421 feet oppo, even if he’s a TTO hitter, way better to watch than the rest of the team lol
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 27, 2022 18:54:33 GMT -5
Adam Dunn get out of Casas’ body please.
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 27, 2022 18:56:04 GMT -5
Casas's strikeout % is basically league average, and like half of his strikeouts were on 3-2 takes
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 27, 2022 19:04:21 GMT -5
are people really worried about him being a TTO guy ? asking honestly. do his minor league stats show that ?
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Post by station13 on Sept 27, 2022 19:07:45 GMT -5
Xander you stink
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 27, 2022 19:09:08 GMT -5
xander's consistent weak contact is frustrating
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Post by benzinger on Sept 27, 2022 19:09:59 GMT -5
If he doesn’t lead the league in runners LOB this year, he has to be way up there. So disappointing.
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Post by cheers on Sept 27, 2022 19:10:32 GMT -5
are people really worried about him being a TTO guy ? asking honestly. do his minor league stats show that ? Kinda worried, but his walk rate is outstanding. He's got a league average OBP with a .150 BA. If he can hit .220 and clobber the ball while walking a lot - he has a career.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 27, 2022 19:13:36 GMT -5
Good Lord, these guys are mashing it.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 27, 2022 19:13:47 GMT -5
are people really worried about him being a TTO guy ? asking honestly. do his minor league stats show that ? Before he came up I had wondered the opposite, because there were all these reports of his smoking line drives but the homers were never really there for him in the minors. I wondered ('worried' would be too strong) if he'd hit more doubles than homers in the majors. Not so far!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 27, 2022 19:16:06 GMT -5
are people really worried about him being a TTO guy ? asking honestly. do his minor league stats show that ? Kinda worried, but his walk rate is outstanding. He's got a league average OBP with a .150 BA. If he can hit .220 and clobber the ball while walking a lot - he has a career. thanks. He is just so young. I am gonna give it another 600-800 at bats before really being concerned about it. As you say, he could still be very valuable, so maybe it shouldn't be that concerning. He may fall victim to homegrown player expectations.
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