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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Oct 11, 2022 17:25:29 GMT -5
Can someone please remind me of the point of the Vazquez trade from the Red Sox’ perspective? Get 2 prospects for an expiring contract?
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Post by pedroiaesque on Oct 11, 2022 17:25:49 GMT -5
Can someone please remind me of the point of the Vazquez trade from the Red Sox’ perspective? Not sure if this is a genuine question or not. He was a free agent at the end of the year, and he wasn't going to get the QA, so they traded him to get something back instead of letting him play out the year and losing him for nothing. Moreover, while he was having a good year, it wasn't like he's elite. I think the real question is why would the Astros even bother. They clearly didn't seem to value him much, and he only received 100 AB from the time of the trade to the end of the season.
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Post by benzinger on Oct 11, 2022 17:31:11 GMT -5
Didn’t Cleveland finish the season 24-6 and sweep their first round opponent? That doesn’t qualify as “hot”? Maybe it describes their W-L record, but certainly not their bats. A 1-0 win in 15 innings is not “hot” in my book. So....a 26-6 run is NOT indicative of a hot team because their bats were inadequate in one of those wins? Is that what you are going with?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 11, 2022 17:39:47 GMT -5
Maybe it describes their W-L record, but certainly not their bats. A 1-0 win in 15 innings is not “hot” in my book. So....a 26-6 run is NOT indicative of a hot team because their bats were inadequate in one of those wins? Is that what you are going with? Hot teams win close games too. If they went 26-6 I'd say they were red hot, especially given that on paper they're not that impressive. I have a feeling they'll cool off soon, but I hope it's not during their series with New York.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 11, 2022 17:53:52 GMT -5
Dombro has read the threads, Dombro never forgets. LOL.
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Post by benzinger on Oct 11, 2022 18:11:57 GMT -5
I feel like I need to root for HOU because I think that is the hardest road for the Yankees(and that they would steamroll the Mariners). But it’s HARD to root for Bergman, Gurriel & Altuve(among others).
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 11, 2022 18:17:34 GMT -5
I feel like I need to root for HOU because I think that is the hardest road for the Yankees(and that they would steamroll the Mariners). But it’s HARD to root for Bergman, Gurriel & Altuve(among others). I won't worry about the MFY until I absolutely have to worry. Until then, I am gonna disrupt my MFY friends relentlessly when things go wrong.
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Post by benzinger on Oct 11, 2022 18:18:44 GMT -5
Wow
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 11, 2022 18:19:13 GMT -5
Holy crap Yordan
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Post by taiwansox on Oct 11, 2022 18:22:39 GMT -5
Can someone please remind me of the point of the Vazquez trade from the Red Sox’ perspective? Not sure if this is a genuine question or not. He was a free agent at the end of the year, and he wasn't going to get the QA, so they traded him to get something back instead of letting him play out the year and losing him for nothing. Moreover, while he was having a good year, it wasn't like he's elite. I think the real question is why would the Astros even bother. They clearly didn't seem to value him much, and he only received 100 AB from the time of the trade to the end of the season. Exactly the Mets needed him wayyy more than the Astros. Their catching cost them the division and really their season
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Post by taiwansox on Oct 11, 2022 18:23:38 GMT -5
We learned last year that Yordan can kick the crap out of elite lefties (2 HRs against Sale)
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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 11, 2022 18:23:41 GMT -5
Damn
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 11, 2022 18:24:28 GMT -5
First walkoff HR in the postseason with a team trailing since Joe Carter in the 93 WS
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Post by soxfaninnj on Oct 11, 2022 18:25:47 GMT -5
Not sure if this is a genuine question or not. He was a free agent at the end of the year, and he wasn't going to get the QA, so they traded him to get something back instead of letting him play out the year and losing him for nothing. Moreover, while he was having a good year, it wasn't like he's elite. I think the real question is why would the Astros even bother. They clearly didn't seem to value him much, and he only received 100 AB from the time of the trade to the end of the season. Exactly the Mets needed him wayyy more than the Astros. Their catching cost them the division and really their season They were stingy when it came to deadline trades. Instead of pushing prospect capital to the middle of table and trying to go for it they traded for Darren Ruf and look how that worked out for them.
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Post by benzinger on Oct 11, 2022 18:25:49 GMT -5
We learned last year that Yordan can kick the crap out of elite lefties (2 HRs against Sale) Yes! He handles lefties just fine. It’s easy to say in hindsight, but Seattle’s manager got a little too cute there using Ray. I thought that as soon as I saw him, too.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 11, 2022 18:29:32 GMT -5
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Post by kevfc89 on Oct 11, 2022 20:38:21 GMT -5
bad job by Tito, can't let the top of that lineup see Quantrill for a third time
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Oct 11, 2022 21:49:08 GMT -5
I feel like I need to root for HOU because I think that is the hardest road for the Yankees(and that they would steamroll the Mariners). But it’s HARD to root for Bergman, Gurriel & Altuve(among others). According to you Cleveland is so “hot” at 26-6, I assume you would think that Cleveland will sweep the Yankees. Lol …or maybe Cleveland beating up on KC, Det, Min, and Chi W doesn’t amount to much.
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Post by foreverred9 on Oct 11, 2022 22:04:54 GMT -5
Didn’t Cleveland finish the season 24-6 and sweep their first round opponent? That doesn’t qualify as “hot”? Maybe it describes their W-L record, but certainly not their bats. A 1-0 win in 15 innings is not “hot” in my book. Their bats are ice cold right now, just 2 barrels so far in the playoffs. The Ramirez HR and the Gonzalez HR from the WC series, nothing tonight against the Yankees. On the other end of the spectrum, Yordan Alvarez had two after the 7th inning stretch today.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 11, 2022 23:36:09 GMT -5
I feel like I need to root for HOU because I think that is the hardest road for the Yankees(and that they would steamroll the Mariners). But it’s HARD to root for Bergman, Gurriel & Altuve(among others). According to you Cleveland is so “hot” at 26-6, I assume you would think that Cleveland will sweep the Yankees. Lol …or maybe Cleveland beating up on KC, Det, Min, and Chi W doesn’t amount to much. Were the Red Sox not hot in June when they were beating up on bad teams and non AL East teams during their 32-12 stretch? Playing AL East teams cooled them off just like the Yankees will cool off Cleveland. Doesnt change the fact that they were red hot over the past month. I think 26-6 is pretty hot no matter who they played. That's a month of .800 plus baseball. That's scorching hot baseball. Hot teams get cooled off most if the time. See 2007 Colorado Rockies. This seems like a needless dumb semantics argument.
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Post by xdmo on Oct 12, 2022 2:44:18 GMT -5
Yordan Alvarez is the next David Ortiz. It's not even a debate in my opinion. The Astros just extended him, too. What a steal.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 12, 2022 5:19:08 GMT -5
Yordan Alvarez is the next David Ortiz. It's not even a debate in my opinion. The Astros just extended him, too. What a steal. Even the best and brightest make mistakes. The Dodgers let him walk get away. I know there was no DH in the NL then, but... you find a position for his bat. He was barely in the Dodgers system for less than 2 months in 2016 when the Astros pilfered him for middle reliever Josh Fields. Kind of a reverse Pedro Guerrero situation for the Dodgers when they stole him out of the Cleveland organization 3 decades earlier. Those types of transactions always fascinate me.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Oct 12, 2022 21:12:08 GMT -5
Didn't know that Jansen is from Curacao. How couldn't Chaim have used his leverage, a.k.a. Xander, to sign him?
EDIT: Kenley makes it look easy, closing out the Phils in game 2.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Oct 12, 2022 21:38:18 GMT -5
For those who think Graterol is LAD's closing-in-waiting, here he is to start the top of the 6th...
EDIT: And he reminds us why he's not any sort of closer in waiting, missing no bats. Nice play at the plate though...
EDIT, part deux: If anyone is LAD's closer in waiting, it's gotta be Almonte.
EDIT Howell III: ... or Kahnle...
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Post by greenmonster on Oct 13, 2022 11:28:58 GMT -5
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