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2022-2023 National Rankings (offseason)
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Post by julyanmorley on Jan 20, 2023 12:50:19 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Jan 20, 2023 12:56:58 GMT -5
Very curious to watch Yorke this year. I would consider myself low on him relative to the rest of the board. Really hated to see his K% jump so high last year in Greenville. I also want him to repeat A+ in hopes that he finds his stroke and some confidence before heading to Portland, but this site is projecting him to AA. It would be huge if he reclaimed his 2021 form for sure.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 24, 2023 10:35:41 GMT -5
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jan 25, 2023 9:46:06 GMT -5
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jan 25, 2023 10:59:43 GMT -5
The Rafaela family is not happy about Ceddanne being left off of the top 10 OF list
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Post by kingstephanos on Jan 25, 2023 11:25:17 GMT -5
The Rafaela family is not happy about Ceddanne being left off of the top 10 OF list I like the passion, what can I say.
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Post by evanstonredsox on Jan 26, 2023 19:09:33 GMT -5
Looks like no Yoshida on MLB’s top 100. Need him to make ESPN’s list to be eligible for draft compensation if he wins ROY.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jan 26, 2023 19:12:58 GMT -5
ESPN's prospect guy had a front page story slamming the Sox for signing him, so I wouldn't hold my breath
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Post by evanstonredsox on Jan 26, 2023 19:17:13 GMT -5
ESPN's prospect guy had a front page story slamming the Sox for signing him, so I wouldn't hold my breath Probably shouldn’t complain anyways, kinda ridiculous that you can get a first for signing a 30 year old professional veteran.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jan 26, 2023 19:24:57 GMT -5
MLB top 100 live right now, so far Bleis at 93, Rafaela at 86, Casas at 23.
Didn't hear the first two but the comp thrown out on Casas was "left-handed hitting Paul Konerko" and he was also called a potential future gold glover. Don't really buy that they have the greatest research here, but hey for the Red Sox '04-'07 Paul Konerko with great defense would be an awesome outcome.
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Post by nomar on Jan 26, 2023 19:31:40 GMT -5
MLB top 100 live right now, so far Bleis at 93, Rafaela at 86, Casas at 23. Didn't hear the first two but the comp thrown out on Casas was "left-handed hitting Paul Konerko" and he was also called a potential future gold glover. Don't really buy that they have the greatest research here, but hey for the Red Sox '04-'07 Paul Konerko with great defense would be an awesome outcome. Konerko has a totally different approach and a pretty meh-to-bad glove aside from being a LHH. It’s crazy how bad MLB is with their coverage of prospects.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jan 26, 2023 19:35:59 GMT -5
MLB top 100 live right now, so far Bleis at 93, Rafaela at 86, Casas at 23. Didn't hear the first two but the comp thrown out on Casas was "left-handed hitting Paul Konerko" and he was also called a potential future gold glover. Don't really buy that they have the greatest research here, but hey for the Red Sox '04-'07 Paul Konerko with great defense would be an awesome outcome. Konerko has a totally different approach and a pretty meh-to-bad glove aside from being a LHH. It’s crazy how bad MLB is with their coverage of prospects. To be fair it was one guy comparing him offensively to Konerko, then a second guy (it's on in the background so not sure who is speaking) mentioned the glove as a separate point. Offensively agreed though, Casas walks and strikes out much more than Konerko did.
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Post by kjkramer on Jan 26, 2023 19:40:17 GMT -5
Pretty strong showing. I am biased but feel M² could have been as high as 5-6
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Post by stevedillard on Jan 26, 2023 20:40:04 GMT -5
Baltimore with #1 prospect (they had #1 last year) and 3 of the top 12, 8 in top 100.
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Post by nomar on Jan 26, 2023 20:48:45 GMT -5
Baltimore with #1 prospect (they had #1 last year) and 3 of the top 12, 8 in top 100. Don’t worry, they’ll blow it.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jan 26, 2023 21:44:14 GMT -5
Baltimore with #1 prospect (they had #1 last year) and 3 of the top 12, 8 in top 100. They might have the #1 next year in Holliday.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jan 26, 2023 21:52:03 GMT -5
Baltimore with #1 prospect (they had #1 last year) and 3 of the top 12, 8 in top 100. They might have the #1 next year in Holliday. He would have to jump over Mayer to do it. So, Naw.....
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Post by chr31ter on Jan 30, 2023 7:36:46 GMT -5
Keith Law's Top 100 from The Athletic: 11. Marcelo Mayer "...I haven’t seen great bat speed from him, bearing in mind I am putting a rare Sicilian curse on him any time I’m in the ballpark, and he might be a high-OBP, 25+ homer guy who doesn’t hit for high averages if that’s the case. He’s a no-doubt shortstop with great actions and quick hands — at least, when I haven’t graced him with my presence and caused his vestigial organs to turn necrotic mid-play — and a plus arm. I know I haven’t seen his best, and I take responsibility for my actions. I still think he’s going to be a star." 37. Ceddanne Rafaela "...His defense is elite and he’s a 70 runner as well, so he doesn’t have to hit that much to be a solid big leaguer, and he could be an above-average regular as a low-OBP, 20+ homer guy. The hope is that he improves the choices he’s making as a hitter and that he recognizes pitch types sooner with experience and reduces some of that chase to give himself a chance to be a high-average hitter and potential star on both sides of the ball." 40. Triston Casas "He’s a first baseman who rakes, and should be the traditional slugger for that position, hitting for some average with a ton of walks and either 40-odd doubles or 25-plus homers." 72. Miguel Bleis "Bleis is still growing into his frame, but shows exceptional ability to handle the bat, with the potential for huge power and lots of hard contact, and has a chance for every tool to end up above-average ... He needs to be more selective at the plate, with a little more swing and miss and a little less ball/strike recognition than you’d like, but it also comes with the enormous upside. He actually would be a perfect guy for short-season ball this year if that still existed, and I won’t be shocked or too dismayed if he struggles early in Low A as an inexperienced 19-year-old. The high-average/25 homer upside is still there." theathletic.com/4132943/2023/01/30/top-100-mlb-prospects-2023-keith-law/
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Post by crossedsabres8 on Jan 30, 2023 7:55:02 GMT -5
Keith Law's Top 100 from The Athletic: 11. Marcelo Mayer "...I haven’t seen great bat speed from him, bearing in mind I am putting a rare Sicilian curse on him any time I’m in the ballpark, and he might be a high-OBP, 25+ homer guy who doesn’t hit for high averages if that’s the case. He’s a no-doubt shortstop with great actions and quick hands — at least, when I haven’t graced him with my presence and caused his vestigial organs to turn necrotic mid-play — and a plus arm. I know I haven’t seen his best, and I take responsibility for my actions. I still think he’s going to be a star." 37. Ceddanne Rafaela "...His defense is elite and he’s a 70 runner as well, so he doesn’t have to hit that much to be a solid big leaguer, and he could be an above-average regular as a low-OBP, 20+ homer guy. The hope is that he improves the choices he’s making as a hitter and that he recognizes pitch types sooner with experience and reduces some of that chase to give himself a chance to be a high-average hitter and potential star on both sides of the ball." 40. Triston Casas "He’s a first baseman who rakes, and should be the traditional slugger for that position, hitting for some average with a ton of walks and either 40-odd doubles or 25-plus homers." 72. Miguel Bleis "Bleis is still growing into his frame, but shows exceptional ability to handle the bat, with the potential for huge power and lots of hard contact, and has a chance for every tool to end up above-average ... He needs to be more selective at the plate, with a little more swing and miss and a little less ball/strike recognition than you’d like, but it also comes with the enormous upside. He actually would be a perfect guy for short-season ball this year if that still existed, and I won’t be shocked or too dismayed if he struggles early in Low A as an inexperienced 19-year-old. The high-average/25 homer upside is still there." theathletic.com/4132943/2023/01/30/top-100-mlb-prospects-2023-keith-law/I typically don't like Law but that Mayer write up is pretty funny.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 30, 2023 8:30:21 GMT -5
Looks like no Yoshida on MLB’s top 100. Need him to make ESPN’s list to be eligible for draft compensation if he wins ROY. Pretty sure BA is the only one who would consider him for their rankings. They have slightly different eligibility guidelines.
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Post by nomar on Jan 30, 2023 9:54:25 GMT -5
That’s the highest we’ve seen Rafaela. Good to read that despite the chase/lower avg EV, the bat speed is there. Law seems to be quick to throwing around plus or 70 grade CF defense this year (I saw about 10+ in this top 100), but only Rafaela was floated with a potential 80 grade glove in center.
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Post by incandenza on Jan 30, 2023 10:42:29 GMT -5
Law's list has the Rays with a weaker presence than the Red Sox on the top 100, first time I've seen that in a while (4 guys ranked, but at a lower position on average than the Red Sox - 24, 52, 81, 99).
The Yankees also have 4 guys; theirs are similarly ranked to the Red Sox' (8, 32, 76, 86).
Baltimore has 6, including 3 in the top 20 (2, 15, 19, 73, 84, 95). Yikes.
Toronto has only one, at #47; they're also going above the CBT this year, I think, which means they're going to start to feel the pinch as their young players get into their arb years. They're playing for a few years' window and then they'll probably start to slide again.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jan 30, 2023 11:04:50 GMT -5
That’s the highest we’ve seen Rafaela. Good to read that despite the chase/lower avg EV, the bat speed is there. Law seems to be quick to throwing around plus or 70 grade CF defense this year (I saw about 10+ in this top 100), but only Rafaela was floated with a potential 80 grade glove in center. I'm only a few names into the list, but it already feels like he's being a little generous in his grades - he gave Elly de la Cruz 80 power, 80 speed, and a 70 arm - if the hit tool is even like a 50 that's one of the best prospects of all time in theory lol
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Post by cotuitfan on Jan 30, 2023 11:10:33 GMT -5
Nothing says sustainability like drafting Yorke ahead of Walker
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jan 30, 2023 11:21:10 GMT -5
Nothing says sustainability like drafting Yorke ahead of Walker Nothing says sustainability like having to take an underslot guy with your first ever pick because you walked into a situation where your manager got suspended and the league took away your 2nd round pick due to things that happened when you where employed by a different team.
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