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Post by geostorm on Jan 2, 2023 9:58:43 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 2, 2023 10:07:36 GMT -5
Sounds like someone the sox should have some interest in if he can play CF/RF. Quick scouting report I read said he may be able to. I'm sure they'll be somewhat interested in him.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 2, 2023 11:06:33 GMT -5
From Fangraphs (listed as a 50 FV):
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Post by geostorm on Jan 2, 2023 14:31:20 GMT -5
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Post by greenmonster on Jan 2, 2023 15:37:46 GMT -5
I believe it is a common opinion that both KBO and NPB baseball leagues are a notch below MLB in terms of talent/competition. Any thoughts on how they compare with each other and with AAA? My perception (based on zero data) is the following:
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jan 2, 2023 16:50:25 GMT -5
Right field you say?
Lets go get this guy.
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Post by thelpc on Jan 2, 2023 20:03:19 GMT -5
From Fangraphs (listed as a 50 FV): Is it just me or does that feel like an insanely small sample size? Does the KBO just not have a lot of guys who can throw all that hard? |
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Post by jmei on Jan 3, 2023 10:01:01 GMT -5
Correct, both NPB and (especially) the KBO don't have a lot of hard throwers (and especially hard throwers who can locate), which is why folks often get a little nervous about whether hitters in those leagues have the bat speed to keep up with MLB-caliber arms.
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Post by nomar on Jan 3, 2023 11:43:40 GMT -5
From Fangraphs (listed as a 50 FV): Seems like he has more downside than upside With that GB%, results against velo, and lack of power. |
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Post by curtisw on Jan 3, 2023 12:31:40 GMT -5
Yeah I’m really uninterested in this guy. People are going to be acting like he is going to be the next Shin-Soo Choo but I see nothing to suggest that. I mean maybe. But as I said on another thread, I don’t see how we can gamble on Yoshida (I like that signing a lot but am well aware it is a gamble and has a decent chance of not being worth it) and Lee. It strikes me as being good odds that one of them will “bust” or otherwise come up short of where you need them given the money these kinds of high end gambles costs.
Just way too many warning signs here. I think Yoshida is the better gamble even with the age difference. I think the age of Lee is interesting but to me, I still prefer Yoshida who might have a special hit tool and has a better track record of producing.
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Post by seamus on Jan 3, 2023 22:19:10 GMT -5
The paper in the link that geostorm provided had his GB% as the lowest in the entire KBO, so I wonder if there's some discrepancy in the batted ball data. A high GB% rate and poor production against velocity would be red flags, for sure, but if it's actually a LOW GB% rate and just an iffy line against heat, that's much less concerning. He doesn't see much heat, so it could just be an experience issue. I will say, though, that his bat path does seem really long, so I could see there being a mechanical reason for struggles against 95+.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jan 11, 2023 13:28:30 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Jan 11, 2023 13:40:13 GMT -5
His wRC+ in the KBO is more impressive than Kang, Kim, etc and even moreso given his age. But fangraphs does show that GB near 60%, so that’s a big variable. Like Kim, in video he seems to benefit from a lot of bloopers and infield hits in the KBO. I’d still be worried about him from an exit velocity perspective in the MLB (Kim’s was 10th percentile) regardless of the GB% too. The Davenport projections for him are absolutely bonkers though. The ISO seems incredibly bullish even based on his history in the KBO though. |
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Post by levi on Jan 11, 2023 13:42:02 GMT -5
Wow, his 10th percentile outcome is still a ~4 WAR player? Peak median outcome in the next few years is…more than *7* WAR?! |
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Post by julyanmorley on Jan 11, 2023 14:02:51 GMT -5
IIRC Clay's stuff uses a lower replacement level
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Post by wingman478 on Jan 25, 2023 11:09:04 GMT -5
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Post by azblue on Jan 26, 2023 20:37:04 GMT -5
Perhaps Hoo's on first.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jan 26, 2023 22:08:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry too much about his record against velo. Once upon a time no one in MLB could hit 95+ because they never saw it... except from Koufax, Ryan, and a handful of others who dominated with it. Now American and Caribbean kids see it in the upper minors and get used to it -- or they don't, in which case they need other tools to survive. To that last point, it sounds like young Mr. Lee has multiple tools and if he's as pure a hitter as many say, I would guess he'll catch up to big velo after an adjustment period.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 24, 2023 13:53:08 GMT -5
Season over after 85 games. He needs ankle surgery. Batting line was down a bit this season .319/.407/.456
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