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Red Sox Spring Training Gameday Thread
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Post by yuchangclan on Mar 14, 2023 21:58:01 GMT -5
Miguel Bleis told @alexspeier he identifies Ronald Acuna Jr. as the type of player he wants to become. Acceptable. They never say they want to be the next Jose Malave.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 14, 2023 22:29:30 GMT -5
For context, he's now batting .387 and saw 27 pitches in 4 plate appearances (S,D,BB)
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 14, 2023 22:56:04 GMT -5
Tapia would need to receive an MLB offer from a team by March 25th. Either way/ Tapia/Duran seems like a non-issue. The Sox will go with best fit. Tapia's is an opt out. He can just leave if not added to the 40-man roster (and therefore, effectively, the 26-man roster). Alfaro and Goodrum have upward mobility clauses dependent on a team offering to add them. Sorry, I could have sworn a few days ago, I saw a tweet that said otherwise.
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Post by tijas2 on Mar 15, 2023 0:17:44 GMT -5
They never say they want to be the next Jose Malave. Jose Malave is a deep cut. You going to say the Yorke reminds you of Luis Ortiz next?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 15, 2023 6:47:04 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Mar 15, 2023 8:20:11 GMT -5
Dalbec at SS with Goodrum at 3B, interesting
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Post by nomar on Mar 15, 2023 8:42:34 GMT -5
Dalbec at SS with Goodrum at 3B, interesting Dalbec is going to lead the league in OOA at SS.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 15, 2023 10:54:54 GMT -5
Actually, Goodrum hasn't played SS all spring. Doesn't seem like they think of him as a SS at this point.
As for Dalbec, I think it's just seeing if he can handle being the emergency SS. Like he was there yesterday with Koss at 3B and no doubt Koss would be the SS in a lineup with both.
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Post by jimoh on Mar 15, 2023 11:10:50 GMT -5
Actually, Goodrum hasn't played SS all spring. Doesn't seem like they think of him as a SS at this point. As for Dalbec, I think it's just seeing if he can handle being the emergency SS. Like he was there yesterday with Koss at 3B and no doubt Koss would be the SS in a lineup with both. is it impossible that, if they think Mondesi is not far away, they cut Chang and go with no real MI backup for two-three weeks, just Dalbec as emergency SS?
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Post by cdj on Mar 15, 2023 11:13:25 GMT -5
WBC MVP Yu Chang? No way! International superstar!
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Post by sarasoxer on Mar 15, 2023 12:12:11 GMT -5
At the game. 1st inning Kluber struck out the side FB 85-87...
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Post by jimoh on Mar 15, 2023 12:21:21 GMT -5
Actually, Goodrum hasn't played SS all spring. Doesn't seem like they think of him as a SS at this point. As for Dalbec, I think it's just seeing if he can handle being the emergency SS. Like he was there yesterday with Koss at 3B and no doubt Koss would be the SS in a lineup with both. is it impossible that, if they think Mondesi is not far away, they cut Chang and go with no real MI backup for two-three weeks, just Dalbec as emergency SS? Speier’s Globe story today makes it seem like they are considering Dalbec as the backup IF
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Post by manfred on Mar 15, 2023 12:30:37 GMT -5
I’ve been holding back on Casas, because I like to keep expectations low for kids. But… I’m pretty excited. He carries himself like a guy who is ready. That little punch hit was nice. Fooled and made something of it.
I also think Kluber will give them a good return. He can definitely replace Eovaldi.
On the negative side: I predict Duvall doesn’t finish the season with the Sox. I think he is this year’s JBJ.
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Post by shagworthy on Mar 15, 2023 12:41:09 GMT -5
What a catch by Gamel...
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 15, 2023 12:41:21 GMT -5
Amazing catch by the Ray's left fielder.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Mar 15, 2023 12:47:54 GMT -5
Iâve been holding back on Casas, because I like to keep expectations low for kids. But⦠Iâm pretty excited. He carries himself like a guy who is ready. That little punch hit was nice. Fooled and made something of it. I also think Kluber will give them a good return. He can definitely replace Eovaldi. On the negative side: I predict Duvall doesnât finish the season with the Sox. I think he is this yearâs JBJ. Hopefully if the latter is true, some combination of Tapia/Duran/Mondesi (Kiké back to CF) will make him expendable
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Post by taiwansox on Mar 15, 2023 12:52:23 GMT -5
I’ve been holding back on Casas, because I like to keep expectations low for kids. But… I’m pretty excited. He carries himself like a guy who is ready. That little punch hit was nice. Fooled and made something of it. I also think Kluber will give them a good return. He can definitely replace Eovaldi. On the negative side: I predict Duvall doesn’t finish the season with the Sox. I think he is this year’s JBJ. I see what you did haha Agree though, high K guys can collapse immediately. I remember Baseball Prospectus 2005 modeling out Ryan Howard predicting a massive peak and quick decline.
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Post by manfred on Mar 15, 2023 13:15:18 GMT -5
Iâve been holding back on Casas, because I like to keep expectations low for kids. But⦠Iâm pretty excited. He carries himself like a guy who is ready. That little punch hit was nice. Fooled and made something of it. I also think Kluber will give them a good return. He can definitely replace Eovaldi. On the negative side: I predict Duvall doesnât finish the season with the Sox. I think he is this yearâs JBJ. Hopefully if the latter is true, some combination of Tapia/Duran/Mondesi (Kiké back to CF) will make him expendable There seem like a lot of options, which is part of why I say it. I don’t see him as setting himself apart, really, from a crowd of options. So my negative about him isn’t a general negative. I definitely prefer Mondesi at SS and Kiké back to CF. Might not be long.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Mar 15, 2023 13:25:16 GMT -5
Hopefully if the latter is true, some combination of Tapia/Duran/Mondesi (Kiké back to CF) will make him expendable There seem like a lot of options, which is part of why I say it. I donât see him as setting himself apart, really, from a crowd of options. So my negative about him isnât a general negative. I definitely prefer Mondesi at SS and Kiké back to CF. Might not be long. I think one thing the Red Sox have done very well in their roster building is given themselves optionality. Obviously none of those guys are All-Star players, but you give yourself good odds at filling your holes by bringing in a lot of players whose upside isn't particularly tied to one position. If Duvall plays like 2021 Duvall, great he's your starting center fielder! If he struggles and Tapia's still riding a hot streak, great make that work somehow! If he falls back to earth and Mondesi is back healthy, great move Kiké back to center! If Mondesi gets injured again, great maybe Duran's swing change pays off full time! If none of those things work out... maybe stay away from Vegas. It's very Rays-y in that it's just playing the odds that someone will work out and that you can mix and match to create a reasonable baseline of production. You can't build a contender on that alone (unless you are the Rays and are just inexplicably great at it), but in tandem with the star power you expect/hope to get from Devers, Yoshida, Story, and Casas it certainly has potential as a strategy. I'm feeling more and more optimistic about the mix as time goes on.
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Post by ematz1423 on Mar 15, 2023 13:31:09 GMT -5
Hopefully if the latter is true, some combination of Tapia/Duran/Mondesi (Kiké back to CF) will make him expendable There seem like a lot of options, which is part of why I say it. I don’t see him as setting himself apart, really, from a crowd of options. So my negative about him isn’t a general negative. I definitely prefer Mondesi at SS and Kiké back to CF. Might not be long. I haven't liked the thought of Hernandez being the every day guy or at least close to it at SS. I feel his defense is better in CF but Perhaps that will be remedied when Mondesi and/or Story come back, that's my hope. I agree with you on Duvall, I don't really want him playing that much vs righties. I do think he can have a role on the team as a guy who plays OF vs lefties though. The way things stand though for at least the first month of the season we're probably going to see Duvall as an everyday OFer and Hernandez as the everyday SS.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 15, 2023 13:39:43 GMT -5
Kluber/Whitlock solid plus....
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Post by jmei on Mar 15, 2023 13:40:06 GMT -5
There seem like a lot of options, which is part of why I say it. I donât see him as setting himself apart, really, from a crowd of options. So my negative about him isnât a general negative. I definitely prefer Mondesi at SS and Kiké back to CF. Might not be long. I think one thing the Red Sox have done very well in their roster building is given themselves optionality. Obviously none of those guys are All-Star players, but you give yourself good odds at filling your holes by bringing in a lot of players whose upside isn't particularly tied to one position. If Duvall plays like 2021 Duvall, great he's your starting center fielder! If he struggles and Tapia's still riding a hot streak, great make that work somehow! If he falls back to earth and Mondesi is back healthy, great move Kiké back to center! If Mondesi gets injured again, great maybe Duran's swing change pays off full time! If none of those things work out... maybe stay away from Vegas. It's very Rays-y in that it's just playing the odds that someone will work out and that you can mix and match to create a reasonable baseline of production. You can't build a contender on that alone (unless you are the Rays and are just inexplicably great at it), but in tandem with the star power you expect/hope to get from Devers, Yoshida, Story, and Casas it certainly has potential as a strategy. I'm feeling more and more optimistic about the mix as time goes on. My thing with that strategy has always been that it often takes a while to figure out that your plan A (and sometimes plan B) at a position aren't working and you should pivot to plan C, especially if plan A is a veteran player that a manager feels obligated to give a fair amount of rope. It took until June (and 205 PAs of -0.3 fWAR) before the 2014 Red Sox finally ditched Grady Sizemore, by which point the season was already lost. Let's hope that doesn't happen this year...
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Mar 15, 2023 13:46:08 GMT -5
I think one thing the Red Sox have done very well in their roster building is given themselves optionality. Obviously none of those guys are All-Star players, but you give yourself good odds at filling your holes by bringing in a lot of players whose upside isn't particularly tied to one position. If Duvall plays like 2021 Duvall, great he's your starting center fielder! If he struggles and Tapia's still riding a hot streak, great make that work somehow! If he falls back to earth and Mondesi is back healthy, great move Kiké back to center! If Mondesi gets injured again, great maybe Duran's swing change pays off full time! If none of those things work out... maybe stay away from Vegas. It's very Rays-y in that it's just playing the odds that someone will work out and that you can mix and match to create a reasonable baseline of production. You can't build a contender on that alone (unless you are the Rays and are just inexplicably great at it), but in tandem with the star power you expect/hope to get from Devers, Yoshida, Story, and Casas it certainly has potential as a strategy. I'm feeling more and more optimistic about the mix as time goes on. My thing with that strategy has always been that it often takes a while to figure out that your plan A (and sometimes plan B) at a position aren't working and you should pivot to plan C, especially if plan A is a veteran player that a manager feels obligated to give a fair amount of rope. It took until June (and 205 PAs of -0.3 fWAR) before the 2014 Red Sox finally ditched Grady Sizemore, by which point the season was already lost. Let's hope that doesn't happen this year... Yep, always the risk there. I guess the hope is that if Plan A isn't working, one of Plans B, C, or D in the scenario I laid out are forcing the issue enough to accelerate the timeline (I couldn't possibly remember who ended up replacing Sizemore that year or if that was the case).
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 15, 2023 14:13:57 GMT -5
Why is McGuire still in the game ?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 15, 2023 14:20:07 GMT -5
My guess is they wanted him to catch Whitlock? He's out now though.
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