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Post by cdj on Apr 12, 2023 20:26:00 GMT -5
I can live with them being untalented
I cannot live with the constant stupidity
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Post by orion09 on Apr 12, 2023 20:26:12 GMT -5
Well, it wouldn’t REALLY be a 2022-2023 loss if they didn’t play with our emotions first
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Post by nomar on Apr 12, 2023 20:27:28 GMT -5
Bunting seems fine to me. What do you think Yu Chang's chances swinging against an extremely nasty RH reliever are exactly Higher than telegraphing a bunt to Taylor Walls Out of all the embarrassing things this team has done over the last couple of years, that took the cake. That hurt my soul.
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Post by cdj on Apr 12, 2023 20:28:11 GMT -5
Higher than telegraphing a bunt to Taylor Walls Out of all the embarrassing things this team has done over the last couple of years, that took the cake. That hurt my soul. I woke my dog up shouting MF’s
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 12, 2023 20:28:20 GMT -5
Not a bad idea for a guy with a career 75 wRC+ to bunt for a hit. But again, it just shows the dearth of talent and depth on this team. If that's the guy you're putting up there as the tying run in the 9th, you have a bad roster.
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Post by manfred on Apr 12, 2023 20:28:25 GMT -5
It’s fine. Just wait until they clear salary and Bloom can do what he really wants to do.
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Post by jbuttah on Apr 12, 2023 20:30:01 GMT -5
Well at least I can cancel the worst app in the world, NESN360.
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Post by nomar on Apr 12, 2023 20:32:33 GMT -5
Not a bad idea for a guy with a career 75 wRC+ to bunt for a hit. But again, it just shows the dearth of talent and depth on this team. If that's the guy you're putting up there at the tying run in the 9th, you have a bad roster. Bunting for a hit went out the window after he showed bunt on strike 1. Just pinch hit Arroyo. Devers could have gotten up that inning too. Why take a guaranteed out there? It is completely unjustifiable.
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Post by wkdbigsoxfan on Apr 12, 2023 20:33:24 GMT -5
For all the issues with this team already, having to deal with cruddy luck so far just making things worse. 1-3 in one run games and +4 run differential but 5-7. Sucks
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 12, 2023 20:33:37 GMT -5
Well, it wouldn’t REALLY be a 2022-2023 loss if they didn’t play with our emotions first Eh, not for me. In a lifetime of fandom, I've never had a season where it was this easy to not get annoyed. I had low expectations and low feelings of attachment to most of the guys on this team. We have so many guys who are just passing through for a year or two and then will be wearing other unis or out of the game. The bright side of this series is that the Rays look like a rock solid insurance policy against an MFY WS run.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 12, 2023 20:34:36 GMT -5
They've had a pitching gem in this series and they've have a 7-run game in this series and yet they haven't won once. Continuing to trend toward the lower bound of luck expectations.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 12, 2023 20:35:27 GMT -5
I guess they can't always rally and win games where Chris Sale puts them in a deep hole.
They scored 7 runs with an embarrassing bad lineup and still list because their bad pitching staff gave up 9 runs.
Its really early and I picked them to finish .500 but as I watch them, they look worse than that. I see a team with a thin lineup, bad defense, and bad pitching. To compete they needed Bello and Sale to form a formidable 1-2 punch. We'll see what Bello has to offer but Sale has not been impressive at all. I figured he might have a 4.5 ERA when all was said and done, figuring he'd start off decently and then hit an innings wall. But he's already off to a bad start, lacking command and batters are teeing off against him and I dont think anybody else is going to pick up the slack to ba a top of the rotation guy than possibly Bello. That tells me they're likely going to be pretty mediocre.
So now TB is 12-0 on the season and 12-0 in Tampa against the Sox in their last 12 games which is embarrassing for the Sox. They have been so inferior to TB, Toronti and NY since last year to a humiliating extent.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 12, 2023 20:35:51 GMT -5
Not a bad idea for a guy with a career 75 wRC+ to bunt for a hit. But again, it just shows the dearth of talent and depth on this team. If that's the guy you're putting up there at the tying run in the 9th, you have a bad roster. Bunting for a hit went out the window after he showed bunt on strike 1. Just pinch hit Arroyo. Arroyo definitely would have been the better option there. But it's important not to mess with a guy's rest day in the 12th game of the season. It's the dog days of April.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 12, 2023 20:43:36 GMT -5
So - the question - what to do next? There is long, possibly ugly season remaining. Sure, the roster is the roster. Things should get a bit better with time (should is the key word - Sale's rust should knock off a bit, ditto Whitlock, Bello will be here). Kelly looks gone for the year. There was an injury scare tonight with Martin. Chang is clearly a defensive replacement at best. and on and on. Worse - the bad fundamental baseball we saw last year continues. This team is not sound.
No idea. but watching lots of games like the first three in this series will be less pleasant than a root canal.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 12, 2023 20:52:59 GMT -5
They've had a pitching gem in this series and they've have a 7-run game in this series and yet they haven't won once. Continuing to trend toward the lower bound of luck expectations. Why is it luck? Is there a possibility that they're just simply not that good?
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Post by yuchangclan on Apr 12, 2023 20:59:52 GMT -5
Sox are 7 games out of first and it’s not even tax day yet. Hard to believe.
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Post by foreverred9 on Apr 12, 2023 21:00:37 GMT -5
They've had a pitching gem in this series and they've have a 7-run game in this series and yet they haven't won once. Continuing to trend toward the lower bound of luck expectations. Yet they have given up 17 runs and scored 9 this series. So maybe they should win one game this series (hopefully tomorrow) but it's not like their luck is that bad.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 12, 2023 21:03:18 GMT -5
Good teams make their luck. Bad teams use it as an excuse.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 12, 2023 21:05:44 GMT -5
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Post by jmei on Apr 12, 2023 21:12:09 GMT -5
Good teams make their luck. Bad teams use it as an excuse. This is kind of a meaningless tautology.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Apr 12, 2023 21:13:58 GMT -5
So - the question - what to do next? There is long, possibly ugly season remaining. Sure, the roster is the roster. Things should get a bit better with time (should is the key word - Sale's rust should knock off a bit, ditto Whitlock, Bello will be here). Kelly looks gone for the year. There was an injury scare tonight with Martin. Chang is clearly a defensive replacement at best. and on and on. Worse - the bad fundamental baseball we saw last year continues. This team is not sound. No idea. but watching lots of games like the first three in this series will be less pleasant than a root canal. They need to trade for a SS or CF immediately if they are serious. They can't wait this out.
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Post by cdj on Apr 12, 2023 21:14:07 GMT -5
Feel so bad for him. He deserves better after the grind he’s been on to get here. As an aside from the tragedy, is Cora actually bad at his job? Is he intentionally trying to get fired??
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 12, 2023 21:16:48 GMT -5
cdj - as far as Cora - I think the magic has rubbed off. I don't want to try to speculate on his very successful 2018 and the surprising finish to 2021, but something seems off - treats the players too much as friends? He doesn't tend to bring his teams out of spring training well prepared. But...in truth, who really knows?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 12, 2023 21:18:04 GMT -5
Good teams make their luck. Bad teams use it as an excuse. This is kind of a meaningless tautology. Well, you are entitled to your opinion (your superior tone does grate, though, and often does - to me, anyway. Not very mod-like). I am just sick and tired of so many on this site breaking out the "luck" card. That's being such a homer that it breaks all logic. YMMV.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 12, 2023 21:23:24 GMT -5
Good teams make their luck. Bad teams use it as an excuse. This is kind of a meaningless tautology. It's a fair comment to throw onto this board, though. After an off-season of countless posts about bad luck (Man, that AL East is brutal!) and injuries in 2022, we're 12 games through 2023 and we're already seeing posts about bad luck and injuries. Bill Parcells: “You are what your record says you are.”
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