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Bruins 2023-24 Season Thread
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Post by tizzle on Feb 27, 2024 0:25:46 GMT -5
If the reversal of that goal surprised you, you really haven't been paying attention.
Right after their 6th skater on the ice played a puck and not too many men called.
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Post by cdj on Feb 27, 2024 0:40:21 GMT -5
If the reversal of that goal surprised you, you really haven't been paying attention. Right after their 6th skater on the ice played a puck and not too many men called. There’s something to it, it’s playoff race management. We already heard a ref on a mic admit to game management, why wouldn’t it go a step further?
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Post by tizzle on Feb 27, 2024 0:45:45 GMT -5
How do you call a BS penalty like that with just over 2 minutes left in a tie game, for a team that has an 8-2 edge in PP time?
"Even out the calls" and "don't decide a game with a late penalty" are things the refs seem to believe in only when it screws us.
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Post by cdj on Feb 27, 2024 0:58:15 GMT -5
League gifted Seattle points and stole a point from us
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Post by tizzle on Feb 27, 2024 13:59:46 GMT -5
Honest to goodness, and you don't have to believe me, but I am not someone who buys into conspiracy theories and cries about officiating all the time. On my football team's message board I have any enemies for laughing at that kind of talk. But, seriously, is someone asking the league exactly WHAT is going on with the Bruins and the refs, in particular the goalie interference calls? These calls are made by the same people in the league office every game, so it's not like it can be chalked up to different refs calling things differently. If we remember, there was that stretch earlier in the season (and I don't remember the specific players or teams at this point) where these two happened: - one of or guys bashed a Goalie a few seconds before a goal scored on the other side of the net and they reviewed it and basically said "touched the Goalie, no goal" - a few games later, our G was collided with as a goal was cored and they came back and said "Goalie not significantly impeded, goal stands" Now, both calls were clearly wrong. But somehow the same officials thought in one game that any contact negated a goal and in the other that were needed to be indisputable proof that hitting the Goalie is what stopped him from from making the save. Two completely different standards, whatever goes against the B's is what they're going with. Then we have this one: www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/bruins-pastrnak-has-goal-overturned-after-kings-challenge-for-goaltender-interference/B's player bumped into Goalie is somehow counted as interference against Bruins. Then this one The refs invent a new rule where you can slash a G when he is out of the crease. And let's just ignore that you have to be legally blind to think Swayman IS out of the crease anyway. Again, not hearing that the Bruins organization is raising a major stunk about this stuff is beyond frustrating. You just let yourself get repeatedly screwed like this, its going to keep happening. And it'll cost us at a crucial time. Just watch.
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Post by cdj on Feb 27, 2024 14:07:44 GMT -5
Honest to goodness, and you don't have to believe me, but I am not someone who buys into conspiracy theories and cries about officiating all the time. On my football team's message board I have any enemies for laughing at that kind of talk. But, seriously, is someone asking the league exactly WHAT is going on with the Bruins and the refs, in particular the goalie interference calls? These calls are made by the same people in the league office every game, so it's not like it can be chalked up to different refs calling things differently. If we remember, there was that stretch earlier in the season (and I don't remember the specific players or teams at this point) where these two happened: - one of or guys bashed a Goalie a few seconds before a goal scored on the other side of the net and they reviewed it and basically said "touched the Goalie, no goal" - a few games later, our G was collided with as a goal was cored and they came back and said "Goalie not significantly impeded, goal stands" Now, both calls were clearly wrong. But somehow the same officials thought in one game that any contact negated a goal and in the other that were needed to be indisputable proof that hitting the Goalie is what stopped him from from making the save. Two completely different standards, whatever goes against the B's is what they're going with. Then we have this one: www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/bruins-pastrnak-has-goal-overturned-after-kings-challenge-for-goaltender-interference/B's player bumped into Goalie is somehow counted as interference against Bruins. Then this one The refs invent a new rule where you can slash a G when he is out of the crease. And let's just ignore that you have to be legally blind to think Swayman IS out of the crease anyway. Again, not hearing that the Bruins organization is raising a major stunk about this stuff is beyond frustrating. You just let yourself get repeatedly screwed like this, its going to keep happening. And it'll cost us at a crucial time. Just watch. League office is in Toronto, Toronto is trying to catch Boston in the standings. It’s that simple to me. You’d imagine the people who work in the league office live in Toronto, they might they think they don’t have inherent bias but when they’re microanalyzing a replay for 10 min to invent a reason to not allow the bruins goal then it raises questions with me We know they do game management, that’s confirmed. If they admit to doing that then playoff race management ain’t a stretch The second the replay went longer than 30 seconds last night I knew they were desperately searching for any possible way to disallow the goal. Thats disgusting that I knew what was coming. Broken league, broken system. That’s why at best it will be America’s 5th most popular sport in the near future. They can’t get out of their own way.
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Post by tizzle on Feb 27, 2024 14:16:55 GMT -5
Honest to goodness, and you don't have to believe me, but I am not someone who buys into conspiracy theories and cries about officiating all the time. On my football team's message board I have any enemies for laughing at that kind of talk. But, seriously, is someone asking the league exactly WHAT is going on with the Bruins and the refs, in particular the goalie interference calls? These calls are made by the same people in the league office every game, so it's not like it can be chalked up to different refs calling things differently. If we remember, there was that stretch earlier in the season (and I don't remember the specific players or teams at this point) where these two happened: - one of or guys bashed a Goalie a few seconds before a goal scored on the other side of the net and they reviewed it and basically said "touched the Goalie, no goal" - a few games later, our G was collided with as a goal was cored and they came back and said "Goalie not significantly impeded, goal stands" Now, both calls were clearly wrong. But somehow the same officials thought in one game that any contact negated a goal and in the other that were needed to be indisputable proof that hitting the Goalie is what stopped him from from making the save. Two completely different standards, whatever goes against the B's is what they're going with. Then we have this one: www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/bruins-pastrnak-has-goal-overturned-after-kings-challenge-for-goaltender-interference/B's player bumped into Goalie is somehow counted as interference against Bruins. Then this one The refs invent a new rule where you can slash a G when he is out of the crease. And let's just ignore that you have to be legally blind to think Swayman IS out of the crease anyway. Again, not hearing that the Bruins organization is raising a major stunk about this stuff is beyond frustrating. You just let yourself get repeatedly screwed like this, its going to keep happening. And it'll cost us at a crucial time. Just watch. League office is in Toronto, Toronto is trying to catch Boston in the standings. It’s that simple to me. You’d imagine the people who work in the league office live in Toronto, they might they think they don’t have inherent bias but when they’re microanalyzing a replay for 10 min to invent a reason to not allow the bruins goal then it raises questions with me We know they do game management, that’s confirmed. If they admit to doing that then playoff race management ain’t a stretch The second the replay went longer than 30 seconds last night I knew they were desperately searching for any possible way to disallow the goal. Thats disgusting that I knew what was coming. Broken league, broken system. That’s why at best it will be America’s 5th most popular sport in the near future. They can’t get out of their own way. Last nights wasn't even THAT bad, in a vacuum. It was wrong, but not outrageous as some of the others. But it was just so obvious they were going to go against Boston it wasn't even funny. Like I literally didn't react to the goal because I could see there was a chance of a challenge and once the refs started milling about I was like 'yep, here it comes" I legit laughed at the announcers for being shocked Seattle would risk a PP and challenge there because they thought there was no way it would be overturned. I was chuckling and muttering to myself "man, you guys are in for a surprise" because there was just no way they weren't going to screw us.
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Post by cdj on Feb 29, 2024 19:51:48 GMT -5
Needs a cig after that first period and I don’t smoke cigs
That was hot
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Post by cdj on Feb 29, 2024 20:19:13 GMT -5
Followed by a period where I need to chain smoke cigs because they suck
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Post by cdj on Feb 29, 2024 20:47:46 GMT -5
4-3 lead after 2, trending towards an OT loss though
Remarkable how much this team starts crapping all over themselves with a lead
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Post by christianarroyossock on Feb 29, 2024 21:15:25 GMT -5
This team is really damn good but it is infuriating to see them blow a lead every other day.
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Post by cdj on Mar 1, 2024 15:13:44 GMT -5
Brazeau hurt in practice, Marc McLaughlin is the emergency call up
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 1, 2024 15:25:05 GMT -5
Rumors, they may trade Ullmark… honestly, they should if they can get a haul for him and they should be able to as he’s signed beyond this year. Swayman is going to need a raise after the year and he should be the long term guy.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 1, 2024 20:35:40 GMT -5
Feels like they're more likely to do it this offseason. Fewer teams on no trade list I believe and they may want to be sure Sway is locked up before they move Linus.
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Post by cdj on Mar 1, 2024 20:45:03 GMT -5
Feels like they're more likely to do it this offseason. Fewer teams on no trade list I believe and they may want to be sure Sway is locked up before they move Linus. That’s how I see it With Boqvist’s recent play I wonder if we can sell off Debrusk and just plug Boqvist into his spot. I think if they look to acquire anybody it won’t be a rental
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Post by texs31 on Mar 1, 2024 21:41:01 GMT -5
I think they have depth on the wing and the difference between JDB and the others is not significant. Not sure from a chemistry standpoint what moving him would mean but, for the right value, I can see it.
Just don't think they have the assets to do anything big. Maybe if Hanifin was able to use his partial NTC but otherwise, this is pretty much the team.
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Post by cdj on Mar 2, 2024 0:02:06 GMT -5
I think they have depth on the wing and the difference between JDB and the others is not significant. Not sure from a chemistry standpoint what moving him would mean but, for the right value, I can see it. Just don't think they have the assets to do anything big. Maybe if Hanifin was able to use his partial NTC but otherwise, this is pretty much the team. If Lohrei is a part of their future plans I don’t even think I want Hanifin tbh, I think the group would be too soft to play against. I’d rather they sign Zadorov tbh. Probably can get him and Hakanpaa for the same price as Hanifin this offseason and it completely transforms the defense. Huge, tough to play against. I think the other night their D combined for 0 hits. That’s not winning hockey, especially come playoff season. The Leafs went out and got Lyubushkin again…they understand they needed to add that nastiness on the blue line Dream acquisition would be Jake Middleton. Under contract for next season. Sweet mustache. Mean. Can also actually play the game a bit. He’s not gonna sit around and let Pastrnak get targeted.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Mar 2, 2024 7:38:01 GMT -5
Rumors, they may trade Ullmark… honestly, they should if they can get a haul for him and they should be able to as he’s signed beyond this year. Swayman is going to need a raise after the year and he should be the long term guy. I was totally against this when it was suggested last year however as early as the offseason before this one began I've suggested the best way to improve a line-up that lost 2 centers from their top 2 lines would be to trade from strength in Ullmark, however it was not well received here. I still advocate for it but I'd want to sign Swayman to a long term deal first.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 2, 2024 17:00:34 GMT -5
Rumors, they may trade Ullmark… honestly, they should if they can get a haul for him and they should be able to as he’s signed beyond this year. Swayman is going to need a raise after the year and he should be the long term guy. I was totally against this when it was suggested last year however as early as the offseason before this one began I've suggested the best way to improve a line-up that lost 2 centers from their top 2 lines would be to trade from strength in Ullmark, however it was not well received here. I still advocate for it but I'd want to sign Swayman to a long term deal first. Can't remember your take on it but I do remember responding negatively to the idea in the offseason for the following reasons: 1. Value was not being achieved in trades during that time. Teams were "paying" (either ACTUALLY having to offer assets to take on a cap hit or taking much less in return) to move money. That isn't happening that much right now. 2. I'm still not sure how you get a #1 or #2 C by trading him. Unless a team (take NJD, for example,) is offering up a young player who is a projection (in NJs case, think Mercer) and you think he can be that. 3. I agree. Need to get Sway locked up (and I'm nervous given his comments about his arbitration experience). I do think Ullmark is the key to getting a top line C. Just don't think it had ANY chance of happening this offseason and very little chance now. MAYBE this offseason but . . .
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Post by cdj on Mar 2, 2024 19:00:40 GMT -5
Ullmark hasn’t played 50 games in a season and has an injury history, he’s not getting the return a lot of bruins fans think
I also wouldn’t move him until the summer
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Post by cdj on Mar 2, 2024 20:30:03 GMT -5
No showed the first period
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Mar 2, 2024 21:03:47 GMT -5
No showed the first period I hope this is the low point in the season as that effort was awful and that is not acceptable.
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Post by pedromartinez1999 on Mar 2, 2024 21:24:41 GMT -5
Just bought a 4k 85-inch tv this week and looking forward to the Bruins game tonight and now I want to throw remote control through tv.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Mar 3, 2024 10:12:48 GMT -5
I was totally against this when it was suggested last year however as early as the offseason before this one began I've suggested the best way to improve a line-up that lost 2 centers from their top 2 lines would be to trade from strength in Ullmark, however it was not well received here. I still advocate for it but I'd want to sign Swayman to a long term deal first. Can't remember your take on it but I do remember responding negatively to the idea in the offseason for the following reasons: 1. Value was not being achieved in trades during that time. Teams were "paying" (either ACTUALLY having to offer assets to take on a cap hit or taking much less in return) to move money. That isn't happening that much right now. 2. I'm still not sure how you get a #1 or #2 C by trading him. Unless a team (take NJD, for example,) is offering up a young player who is a projection (in NJs case, think Mercer) and you think he can be that. 3. I agree. Need to get Sway locked up (and I'm nervous given his comments about his arbitration experience). I do think Ullmark is the key to getting a top line C. Just don't think it had ANY chance of happening this offseason and very little chance now. MAYBE this offseason but . . . Regarding #1, I was against it at the time regardless of perceived or actual value. They were going for a Cup and they had the best tandem in the league it made little sense to break that up in that situation. #2. If needed other pieces such as Jake Debrusk could be added to deals of course. #3. Should lock him up long term regardless of anything else and I'm with you regarding his comments regarding arb. experience all the more reason they should find out if he's willing to resign to a long term deal, obviously the amount matters and there is more to it, but once one feels slighted at work resentment can build, and if he want's to go to other pastures then he becomes a trade target and to me at least I think he's the type of goalie you build around long term as your number #1.
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Post by cdj on Mar 3, 2024 12:59:02 GMT -5
We are seeing the impact of Lindholm’s injury
It’s tough to replace horses, both in an MLB rotation and on an NHL backend
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