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Celtics 2023-24 Season Thread
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 19, 2024 10:22:24 GMT -5
Tatum age 21 playoffs effective FG% 50.4%, 25.7 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal and 1.2 blocks
Age 25 48%, 24.3, 10.4, 5.8, 1.0 and .8
He currently has the lowest 3 point percentage of his career in playoffs and is shooting them less than at anytime since his first two years at age 19 and 20. You like to see him shooting less 3 point shots, but his efficiency needs to go up, he's way to good to be at 28%.
I don't look at this as a bad thing, unless it continues. More realistically it means he'll be better over the next two series and that's a good thing.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 19, 2024 10:49:53 GMT -5
Tatum age 21 playoffs effective FG% 50.4%, 25.7 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal and 1.2 blocks Age 25 48%, 24.3, 10.4, 5.8, 1.0 and .8 He currently has the lowest 3 point percentage of his career in playoffs and is shooting them less than at anytime since his first two years at age 19 and 20. You like to see him shooting less 3 point shots, but his efficiency needs to go up, he's way to good to be at 28%. I don't look at this as a bad thing, unless it continues. More realistically it means he'll be better over the next two series and that's a good thing. Trade him, he’s clearly gotten worse
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Post by Don Caballero on May 19, 2024 10:58:08 GMT -5
SGA with a great lob to take the lead then Luka with a great pass for PJ Washington to get (absolutely) fouled on to win the game. I hope the Celtics have one of these plays for a final shot of the game kind of scenario instead of dribble dribble dribble long range brick. They won’t they are a bunch of losers. We don’t have a super star who can have 7 turnovers that are meaningless. Or shoot 39% with 4 turnovers in a close out game and win. Those are real studs, our guys just crumble in those situations. Go easy on the LARP my friend, it was cute at first but it has gotten a bit annoying.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 19, 2024 14:56:31 GMT -5
They won’t they are a bunch of losers. We don’t have a super star who can have 7 turnovers that are meaningless. Or shoot 39% with 4 turnovers in a close out game and win. Those are real studs, our guys just crumble in those situations. Go easy on the LARP my friend, it was cute at first but it has gotten a bit annoying. You guys (Celtics fans) have broken me, I’ve just got started.
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Post by philarhody on May 19, 2024 15:23:04 GMT -5
Tatum age 21 playoffs effective FG% 50.4%, 25.7 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal and 1.2 blocks Age 25 48%, 24.3, 10.4, 5.8, 1.0 and .8 He currently has the lowest 3 point percentage of his career in playoffs and is shooting them less than at anytime since his first two years at age 19 and 20. You like to see him shooting less 3 point shots, but his efficiency needs to go up, he's way to good to be at 28%. I don't look at this as a bad thing, unless it continues. More realistically it means he'll be better over the next two series and that's a good thing. Trade him, he’s clearly gotten worse ..said absolutely no one.
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Post by philarhody on May 19, 2024 15:25:20 GMT -5
Tatum age 21 playoffs effective FG% 50.4%, 25.7 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal and 1.2 blocks Age 25 48%, 24.3, 10.4, 5.8, 1.0 and .8 He currently has the lowest 3 point percentage of his career in playoffs and is shooting them less than at anytime since his first two years at age 19 and 20. You like to see him shooting less 3 point shots, but his efficiency needs to go up, he's way to good to be at 28%. I don't look at this as a bad thing, unless it continues. More realistically it means he'll be better over the next two series and that's a good thing. Tatum’s shot has become hitchier as he has grown into his body. Everything about his game, including his selflessness, has grown except for his shot making. That’s a tough pill to swallow, considering he was a Durant level shot maker early in his career. He’s still one of the 6 or 7 best players in the world.
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Post by capesox on May 19, 2024 15:34:41 GMT -5
I'm going to predict a big series for Tatum next round. Indiana isn't a good defensive team and the Knicks are banged up, plus he would love getting a chance to play in MSG. I think he can take advantage of both of these teams and should have at least a couple of 35 plus games.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 19, 2024 16:00:56 GMT -5
Tatum age 21 playoffs effective FG% 50.4%, 25.7 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal and 1.2 blocks Age 25 48%, 24.3, 10.4, 5.8, 1.0 and .8 He currently has the lowest 3 point percentage of his career in playoffs and is shooting them less than at anytime since his first two years at age 19 and 20. You like to see him shooting less 3 point shots, but his efficiency needs to go up, he's way to good to be at 28%. I don't look at this as a bad thing, unless it continues. More realistically it means he'll be better over the next two series and that's a good thing. Tatum’s shot has become hitchier as he has grown into his body. Everything about his game, including his selflessness, has grown except for his shot making. That’s a tough pill to swallow, considering he was a Durant level shot maker early in his career. He’s still one of the 6 or 7 best players in the world. I agree he’s so bad, that he can match his career average from 3, have the 2nd best 2 point FG% of his career (best was last year) and best effect FG% (2nd best was last year), best high volume FG% of his career (slightly below his rookie year just 10 shots per game) and his shot making has gotten worse. If only he could go back to being the less efficient scorer he was earlier in his career then he’d be a better shot maker today who’s more efficient and someone we could count on…
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Post by philarhody on May 19, 2024 16:03:11 GMT -5
Tatum’s shot has become hitchier as he has grown into his body. Everything about his game, including his selflessness, has grown except for his shot making. That’s a tough pill to swallow, considering he was a Durant level shot maker early in his career. He’s still one of the 6 or 7 best players in the world. I agree he’s so bad, that he can match his career average from 3, have the 2nd best 2 point FG% of his career (best was last year) and best effect FG% (2nd best was last year), best high volume FG% of his career (slightly below his rookie year just 10 shots per game) and his shot making has gotten worse. If only he could go back to being the less efficient scorer he was earlier in his career then he’d be a better shot maker today who’s more efficient and someone we could count on… No one said he’s so bad. He’s a borderline elite catch and shoot player.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 19, 2024 16:21:07 GMT -5
I agree he’s so bad, that he can match his career average from 3, have the 2nd best 2 point FG% of his career (best was last year) and best effect FG% (2nd best was last year), best high volume FG% of his career (slightly below his rookie year just 10 shots per game) and his shot making has gotten worse. If only he could go back to being the less efficient scorer he was earlier in his career then he’d be a better shot maker today who’s more efficient and someone we could count on… No one said he’s so bad. He’s a borderline elite catch and shoot player. I said it. How else do you explain him being a worse shot maker on the best percentages of his career? That takes a special kind of stink and he’s got it.
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Post by cdj on May 19, 2024 16:54:29 GMT -5
Revenge for the in-season tourney!
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Post by Don Caballero on May 19, 2024 18:37:46 GMT -5
Indiana is a good team with a GREAT coach, this won’t be a cakewalk. They are also INCREDIBLY streaky, so people should expect Miami Game 2 at least once, probably twice. That being said, the Celtics are clearly better and the Pacers are a terrible defensive team. Rest The Porzingod unless he’s really needed and let’s rock.
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 19, 2024 19:18:14 GMT -5
I'm excited for this series. Bring on the Pacers!
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Post by GyIantosca on May 19, 2024 21:01:46 GMT -5
Can u imagine if Dalllas pulls it out in the west.
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Post by cdj on May 19, 2024 22:46:48 GMT -5
Can u imagine if Dalllas pulls it out in the west. Nothing would be sweeter than beating Kyrie
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Post by philarhody on May 20, 2024 4:31:41 GMT -5
Can u imagine if Dalllas pulls it out in the west. That would be unbelievable
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 20, 2024 8:28:42 GMT -5
The Nuggets coach really sat on his timeouts during that big Timberwolves run. As a fan im wondering what Im missing because it seems like great coaches take quick timeouts and the bad ones don’t. Seems like coaching 101 to me.
Im kind of confused why that was but it seems like the green teamers pretty much unanimously considered Denver the toughest possible opponent for the C’s.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 20, 2024 8:56:06 GMT -5
The Nuggets coach really sat on his timeouts during that big Timberwolves run. As a fan im wondering what Im missing because it seems like great coaches take quick timeouts and the bad ones don’t. Seems like coaching 101 to me. Im kind of confused why that was but it seems like the green teamers pretty much unanimously considered Denver the toughest possible opponent for the C’s. The studies and numbers show time outs don’t break runs. I’m with you mentally, but that’s what the studies show. I want the timeouts so it’s hard for me wrap my head around.
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Post by philarhody on May 20, 2024 9:00:36 GMT -5
The Nuggets coach really sat on his timeouts during that big Timberwolves run. As a fan im wondering what Im missing because it seems like great coaches take quick timeouts and the bad ones don’t. Seems like coaching 101 to me. Im kind of confused why that was but it seems like the green teamers pretty much unanimously considered Denver the toughest possible opponent for the C’s. Denver was the toughest team for Boston because of their ability to execute in crunch time. Minnesota has defenders everywhere, except for KAT who really tries and is 7 feet tall. I think Boston is a really tough matchup for Minnesota defensively, and I wonder how a young T-Wolves would respond if unable to get into their shots for long periods of time. They could get frustrated and start slacking a bit on defense. If Porzingis is healthy and hitting bombs, Boston would be the favorite against Minnesota. As things stand today, I’d lean Minnesota but it’s close to a toss up.
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Post by philarhody on May 20, 2024 9:09:28 GMT -5
I could see Boston beating Indiana in 4 or 5 or getting into a dangerous game 7. Indiana’s defense is all time horrible, but Boston exploiting mismatches isn’t exactly a strength. There were numerous times in their In-Season Tournament matchup where Myles Turner was tasked with guarding Tatum at the 3 pt line and the Celtics just passed it around. Since then, Indiana has acquired a bit more weak side rim protection after trading for Siakim, but there will still be dribble drive matchups to exploit across the floor.
You want to see Tatum and Brown bully the small guards of Indiana into the paint for fouls and kick outs. Boston should also win the offensive rebounding margin by a wide margin in this series
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 20, 2024 9:46:23 GMT -5
The Nuggets coach really sat on his timeouts during that big Timberwolves run. As a fan im wondering what Im missing because it seems like great coaches take quick timeouts and the bad ones don’t. Seems like coaching 101 to me. Im kind of confused why that was but it seems like the green teamers pretty much unanimously considered Denver the toughest possible opponent for the C’s. The studies and numbers show time outs don’t break runs. I’m with you mentally, but that’s what the studies show. I want the timeouts so it’s hard for me wrap my head around. Huh. That doesn’t make any sense to me. You can sub out players, discuss what isn’t working and run a new play out of a timeout. Plus the players get a bit of a break and slow it down which is good when the other team is getting a lot of fast breaks or shooting hot. I get the idea of saving some time outs for the end for the court advancement and play calling but it seems like you only need to save two for that and three is maybe a bit excessive.
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Post by cdj on May 20, 2024 10:19:07 GMT -5
Pacers and Wolves are almost polar opposites
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 20, 2024 10:30:50 GMT -5
Haven't seen it mentioned, Warriors pick traded for Holiday is 14th in the draft.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 20, 2024 10:35:47 GMT -5
The Celtics should easily win against Pacers, yeah they likely get hot for a game or two, but that's it. It's kinda funny the best remaining team might be the Wolves #1 D, but that offense will struggle and while Denver was the perfect match up for them, Celtics are the worst.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 20, 2024 11:41:04 GMT -5
Im curious why folks think the Pacers will be easy. They seem relatively healthy and gave us issues in the regular season.
I think we’ll win and kinda have a hard time seeing the Pacers beat us 4 of 7 but I can definitely seem winning a few.
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