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Post by soxfaninsyracuse on Mar 25, 2024 11:39:08 GMT -5
If anyone were to make a stand, an in season trade would make the most sense.
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Post by grandsalami on Mar 25, 2024 12:47:48 GMT -5
Yumm
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Post by incandenza on Mar 25, 2024 22:16:51 GMT -5
Joel Sherman, in reporting that the Mets and Yankees haven't "shut the door" on signing Montgomery, says this about his contract ask: I know professional athletes have to be borderline arrogant competitiveness monsters, but Montgomery still wanting $130 million+ when he's already taken himself out of the first month of the season is... something.
Anyway, I imagine basically every team has pretty much the same assessment of Montgomery as the Yankees have. He just seems like a pretty straightforward case, a known quantity where all the evaluations are likely to converge. I wonder how many teams would sign him to 4/80. I wonder if the Red Sox are one of them.
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Post by yuchangclan on Mar 25, 2024 23:06:31 GMT -5
Huh? Hmmm…
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Post by bishop on Mar 26, 2024 7:41:05 GMT -5
Garrett Crochet; 73 IP in 72 career games, 13 starts dating all the way back to when he started in college in 2018, 12.2 IP in 5 spring training games including only 2 starts, White Sox opening day starter. And it might be the right choice? (Probably still should have been Fedde, but Crochet has more upside for a really bad team.)
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Post by geostorm on Mar 26, 2024 8:06:38 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Mar 26, 2024 8:10:56 GMT -5
In recent years, I'm fairly sure it was Benintendi - made his minor league debut 7/3/15, major league debut 8/2/16. A few pitchers have been quicker - Abe Alvarez, Cla Meredith (neither benefitted from it). Heh, bishop mentioned Craig Hansen below, that was the obvious one I missed.
That 2023 draft class is incredible (Teel included).
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Post by geostorm on Mar 26, 2024 8:17:52 GMT -5
In recent years, I'm fairly sure it was Benintendi - made his minor league debut 7/3/15, major league debut 8/2/16. That 2023 draft class is incredible (Teel included). Towards your point on that 2023 DRAFT, as I recall, LAA 1B, whose name escapes me ("Nolan" something) who made Opening Day roster, also from 2023 DRAFT? On Red Sox, I first wondered about TonyC, back in the 60s, he was so young, for his debut.
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Post by bishop on Mar 26, 2024 8:20:38 GMT -5
Craig Hansen comes to mind, but under their criteria I guess he didn't make the opening day roster post draft even though he was called up in September of his draft year. (Going way back Tony C was starting at 19, but he had a full season of minor league ball before making the Sox.) Trying to think of other college players who moved fast, but even Clemens started his post draft year at Pawtucket for a month.
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Post by James Dunne on Mar 26, 2024 8:23:02 GMT -5
In recent years, I'm fairly sure it was Benintendi - made his minor league debut 7/3/15, major league debut 8/2/16. That 2023 draft class is incredible (Teel included). Towards your point on that 2023 DRAFT, as I recall, LAA 1B, whose name escapes me ("Nolan" something) who made Opening Day roster, also from 2023 DRAFT? On Red Sox, I first wondered about TonyC, back in the 60s, he was so young, for his debut. Tony C was signed before the draft was implemented. Signed in 1962, played in the minors in '63, debuted in April '64. Billy C. was actually the first ever draft pick by the Sox.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Mar 26, 2024 9:45:29 GMT -5
As much as I would like for this to happen it probably won't.
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Post by jimoh on Mar 26, 2024 9:46:25 GMT -5
In recent years, I'm fairly sure it was Benintendi - made his minor league debut 7/3/15, major league debut 8/2/16. A few pitchers have been quicker - Abe Alvarez, Cla Meredith (neither benefitted from it). Heh, bishop mentioned Craig Hansen below, that was the obvious one I missed. That 2023 draft class is incredible (Teel included). Younger but not as fast: Jeff Suppan drafted in 1993, debuted in about June of 95 at age 20. Ken Brett was drafted in 1966 and appeared in one regular season game and two World Series games in 1967 at age 18.
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Post by keninten on Mar 26, 2024 12:28:59 GMT -5
David Clyde immediately comes to mind about players rushed to the majors.
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Post by cdj on Mar 26, 2024 12:39:01 GMT -5
back in on Baseball Reference over fangraphs now
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Post by cdj on Mar 26, 2024 12:42:18 GMT -5
Nolan Schanuel got up to the bigs pretty dang fast (and then proceeded to post a 20:19 BB/K)
22 minor league games for a position player is absurd
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Post by geostorm on Mar 26, 2024 12:51:56 GMT -5
Nolan Schanuel got up to the bigs pretty dang fast (and then proceeded to post a 20:19 BB/K) 22 minor league games for a position player is absurd Thank you!! (this is the LAA 1B, also drafted 2023, couldn't recall last name on - impressive)
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Post by bluechip on Mar 26, 2024 13:03:40 GMT -5
Garrett Crochet (Mentioned above) debuted in 2020 after being drafted in 2020. First player in 6 years to make the majors with zero minor league games. He didn’t pitch in the minors until 2023.
Mike Leake was drafted in 2009, played in zero minor league games, played in the Arizona Fall League. He then won the fifth starter role in spring 2010.
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Post by geostorm on Mar 26, 2024 13:05:03 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on Mar 26, 2024 13:07:27 GMT -5
back in on Baseball Reference over fangraphs now Oh how I wish. But their playoffs odds include:
Yankees 2.7% Cardinals 1.5% Giants 7.4% Diamondbacks 9.9%
Transparently ridiculous numbers. It's a weird methodology that seems totally useless for at least the first half of the season: "The team's estimated quality is determined by their performance over their last 100 regular season games (even if it spans seasons) and includes a regression to the mean factor."
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Post by yuchangclan on Mar 26, 2024 14:02:33 GMT -5
As much as I would like for this to happen it probably won't. As you can imagine, Yankees Twitter took this prognostication in stride.
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Post by yuchangclan on Mar 26, 2024 14:06:28 GMT -5
back in on Baseball Reference over fangraphs now Oh how I wish. But their playoffs odds include:
Yankees 2.7% Cardinals 1.5% Giants 7.4% Diamondbacks 9.9%
Transparently ridiculous numbers. It's a weird methodology that seems totally useless for at least the first half of the season: "The team's estimated quality is determined by their performance over their last 100 regular season games (even if it spans seasons) and includes a regression to the mean factor." Suppose Cole is out more than 2 months(or not his usual self when he returns). You can envision a scenario where Rodon doesn’t establish himself & Cortes remains a pumpkin. That pitching staff is weaker than usual. Still not buying last place for them…but it’s fun to ponder.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 26, 2024 15:41:12 GMT -5
That 2023 draft class is incredible (Teel included). Figure Crews and Skenes shouldn't be terribly long either. Can't wait until answering questions a year from now about WHY ISN'T TEEL THE STARTING CATCHER YET WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR?
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Post by grandsalami on Mar 26, 2024 15:57:50 GMT -5
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Post by kingstephanos on Mar 26, 2024 16:37:16 GMT -5
Coincidentally, rates of diabetes and heart disease show stark increases in Chicagoland 2025...
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Mar 26, 2024 16:47:03 GMT -5
I’ll be at a game there in a week, may have to do a review…
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