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6/17-6/19 Red Sox @ Blue Jays Series Thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 17, 2024 7:38:14 GMT -5
6/17 Red Sox (RHP Nick Pivetta, 3-4, 3.88, 46.1 IP, 55K:13BB) @ Blue Jays (LHP Yusei Kikuchi, 4-5, 3.26, 77.1 IP, 76K:19BB) 7:07 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 6/18 Red Sox (RHP Tanner Houck, 7-5, 2.08, 91.0 IP, 89K:15BB) @ Blue Jays (RHP Chris Bassitt, 6-6, 3.56, 78.1 IP, 75K:32BB) 7:07 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 6/19 Red Sox (RHP Brayan Bello, 6-4, 5.00, 63.0 IP, 56K:24BB) @ Blue Jays (RHP Kevin Gausman, 5-5, 4.08, 75.0 IP, 75K:16BB) 7:07 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2024: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by incandenza on Jun 17, 2024 8:30:39 GMT -5
Reasons to hate the Blue Jays:
- AL East rival - nepo babies - ugly stadium - visited Toronto for the first time this year and you know what? not that great
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Post by scottysmalls on Jun 17, 2024 8:37:37 GMT -5
What are the odds both Pivetta and Kikuchi are in new uniforms post trade deadline? Maybe like 50/50. Kikuchi’s been really good if he keeps it up he should get the Blue Jays something nice
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Post by threeifbaerga on Jun 17, 2024 8:57:46 GMT -5
Reasons to hate the Blue Jays:
- AL East rival - nepo babies - ugly stadium - visited Toronto for the first time this year and you know what? not that great
This is why Montreal needs a team again. Man, what a great city.
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Post by asm18 on Jun 17, 2024 9:07:28 GMT -5
Through mid-June, Connor Wong is hitting .333.
While that seems pretty likely to come down, Wong has cut his strikeout rate from 33.3% in 2023 to 18.4% this season, which is lower than anyone else on the team who has gotten real playing time except Yoshida. His chase rate and whiff rates have both gone from dreadful to merely below league average.
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Post by seamus on Jun 17, 2024 10:10:17 GMT -5
I just wish we could beat up Manoah, but I'll settle for roughing up the rest of the Jays' rotation.
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Post by mobaz on Jun 17, 2024 10:44:33 GMT -5
Reasons to hate the Blue Jays:
- AL East rival - nepo babies - ugly stadium - visited Toronto for the first time this year and you know what? not that great
I went in 2018 or so. We went to a park with a minor zoo, up and down the CN Tower, and what we were told was the hip neighborhood that just sucked. We got bored, watched planes land for a few minutes at a pretty lakeside park, and then left. Ate at a Chipotle in Hamilton on the way out. LAME city.
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Post by incandenza on Jun 17, 2024 10:49:37 GMT -5
Through mid-June, Connor Wong is hitting .333. While that seems pretty likely to come down, Wong has cut his strikeout rate from 33.3% in 2023 to 18.4% this season, which is lower than anyone else on the team who has gotten real playing time except Yoshida. His chase rate and whiff rates have both gone from dreadful to merely below league average. Literally no one can maintain a .394 BABIP, so yeah, he won't keep up that BA. But it's hard to imagine he can't be a pretty decent hitter with a sub-20% K rate. For a while his xwOBA was lagging more than I would've expected, but it's now up to .323, which I believe is above average in its own right. If he can be just an average hitter going forward what a great complement to Teel he would be.
Hasn't homered since April 24th by the way; he's due.
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Post by geostorm on Jun 17, 2024 11:50:41 GMT -5
Boston Sports Info @bostonsportsinf Red Sox
In a game
SB ≥ 1
Overall - (28-12, .700)
Home - (14-5, .737) Away - (14-7, .667)
HR ≥ 1
Overall - (26-15, .634)
Home - (11-11, .500) Away - (15-4, .789)
HR + SB ≥ 1
Overall - (18-6, .750
Home - (7-3, .700) Away - (11-3, .786)
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Post by cba82 on Jun 17, 2024 12:47:55 GMT -5
Reasons to hate the Blue Jays: - AL East rival - nepo babies - ugly stadium - visited Toronto for the first time this year and you know what? not that great
Fake fans
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Post by chaimtime on Jun 17, 2024 13:12:35 GMT -5
It’s important to remember that Blue Jays fans are also Maple Leafs fans, generally speaking. Hopefully the young guys understand that they’re duty-bound to make them all sad.
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Post by rhswanzey on Jun 17, 2024 13:26:00 GMT -5
Having to hop on a plane after Sunday night baseball, without an off day, is rough. Not gonna overreact if things don’t look good tonight.
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Post by incandenza on Jun 17, 2024 13:44:37 GMT -5
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.'s ISOs:
2021: .290 2022: .205 2023: .179 2024: .122
Please explain.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 17, 2024 13:45:32 GMT -5
Well, I got to do a training course about 12 years ago in Toronto - took my wife - we had a splendid time. Great meals - nice people, lots of walking around interesting areas of the city.
I have no feelings about Toronto as a team.
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Post by nomar on Jun 17, 2024 13:47:26 GMT -5
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.'s ISOs: 2021: .290 2022: .205 2023: .179 2024: .122 Please explain.
Launch angle problems
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Post by ephus on Jun 17, 2024 14:35:52 GMT -5
Reasons to hate the Blue Jays: - AL East rival - nepo babies - ugly stadium - visited Toronto for the first time this year and you know what? not that great
ADD - The Ontario College of Art and Design (OCAD) has no housing or meal plans AND kicks students out of the academic buildings at midnight so they won't sleep there. Bogus
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Post by nomar on Jun 17, 2024 14:57:51 GMT -5
The Rays and Orioles bug me way more than Toronto because it seems like literally every gamble they ever make pays off for them. Playing against them feels like watching an opposing team shoot 50%+ from 3 in basketball with regularity
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Post by shagworthy on Jun 17, 2024 15:15:07 GMT -5
They were easier for me to hate when Manaoh was around, or back when Joey Batts was there. That man was such a tool. Rougned should get at least 1 vote for the HOF for that punch, he scratched an itch I suspect many around the league had that fateful day.
I used to dislike the Showalter Orioles mainly because that man whined so much about being an upstart team. Yeah Buck, we get it, your team can't spend with the Yankees, but they did give away possibly two of the worst contracts in history with Belle and Chris Davis, and of course there is that punk Machado.
I have no emotions towards the Rays one way or another. They play in a god awful stadium, and despite being good now for what, the past 8 years or so, they still have no fans. I don't buy that a newer stadium would change that either. Florida is just a bad state for a baseball team because it's where the rest of the country goes to die, and they bring their home allegiances with them there.
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Post by cdj on Jun 17, 2024 15:16:33 GMT -5
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.'s ISOs:
2021: .290 2022: .205 2023: .179 2024: .122
Please explain.
Blue Jays have had a few guys not in great shape fall of a cliff early (vladdy jr, Manoah, Kirk although he at least provides defensive value)
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Post by seamus on Jun 17, 2024 15:20:29 GMT -5
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.'s ISOs:
2021: .290 2022: .205 2023: .179 2024: .122
Please explain.
I remember people genuinely thinking he would be a better hitter than his dad, which didn't seem too crazy after 2019-2021. I think it was a Fangraphs piece earlier this year that basically explained he started making too much contact rather than crushing balls in his hot zones.
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Post by incandenza on Jun 17, 2024 15:26:33 GMT -5
I'm not used to the Blue Jays having such a feeble offense. Even with the multiple Red Sox injuries and Yoshida on the bench, the Red Sox lineup has a guy with an OPS that's more than 60 points higher at every spot in the batting order except 7th (Dalbec .421 vs. Kiner-Falefa .690).
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Post by Guidas on Jun 17, 2024 15:49:32 GMT -5
Reasons to hate the Blue Jays: - AL East rival - nepo babies - ugly stadium - visited Toronto for the first time this year and you know what? not that great
Also, they are not the Red Sox and in the AL East - period, so, yes, I hate them. Very much.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 17, 2024 15:53:08 GMT -5
Westbrook sent down. If that's all he ever gets, he showed he could hang and had himself some great moments.
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Post by art on Jun 17, 2024 16:03:28 GMT -5
Reasons to hate the Blue Jays:
- AL East rival - nepo babies - ugly stadium - visited Toronto for the first time this year and you know what? not that great
This is why Montreal needs a team again. Man, what a great city. But in a better stadium, not that ugly pile of concrete.
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Post by asm18 on Jun 17, 2024 16:11:28 GMT -5
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