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6/30 Gameday Thread: GG, Mista Dobalina, Early, & Elmer
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 1, 2024 2:18:17 GMT -5
Jackson has like 200 ABs in AA-AAA. Mayer is at like 500. Thats not even comparable. Sorry, but Jackson is a tier above Marcelo and it isn’t even close. This should show even further that you gotta be conservative with promotions. Marcelo isn't skipping AAA. He needs more development. AAA is a necessary step since they did away with short season baseball. The effects on the low minors have been discussed in various threads, but here is another ripple effect. Skipping AAA would be a horrible player development move.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jul 1, 2024 4:49:27 GMT -5
Hey, if you're looking for a solution in search of a problem, bring up Meidroth. He has only one talent -- minor league pitching can't get him out. When is it time to see how that talent plays in the majors?
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Post by bentossaurus on Jul 1, 2024 6:52:49 GMT -5
Hey, if you're looking for a solution in search of a problem, bring up Meidroth. He has only one talent -- minor league pitching can't get him out. When is it time to see how that talent plays in the majors? Besides filling an actual MLB need, Meidroth has to be better than what they can pick up off the waiver line, as they'll have to carry him on the 40 man roster in the offseason. Late season call ups need to be guys you either put a lot of stock they gonna stay for years to come, guys you don't mind canning in the offseason, or guys you have to make a 40 man decision that offseason anyway. Unfortunately for Meidroth, I don't think he fits any of those categories.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 1, 2024 7:05:10 GMT -5
Hey, if you're looking for a solution in search of a problem, bring up Meidroth. He has only one talent -- minor league pitching can't get him out. When is it time to see how that talent plays in the majors? Besides filling an actual MLB need, Meidroth has to be better than what they can pick up off the waiver line, as they'll have to carry him on the 40 man roster in the offseason.Late season call ups need to be guys you either put a lot of stock they gonna stay for years to come, guys you don't mind canning in the offseason, or guys you have to make a 40 man decision that offseason anyway. Unfortunately for Meidroth, I don't think he fits any of those categories. I think there is a fair chance that Meidroth might be ready for the majors at least as a bench piece but because he is not rule 5 eligible this year and therefore doesn't need to be added to the 40 man to protect him he probably needs to be quite a bit better than the other options at least by enough to make it worth adding him to the 40 man roster crunch. I think I agree at this point it is hard for me to envision him being added to the 40 and called up to the majors this season.
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Post by crossedsabres8 on Jul 1, 2024 7:56:08 GMT -5
Jackson has like 200 ABs in AA-AAA. Mayer is at like 500. Thats not even comparable. Sorry, but Jackson is a tier above Marcelo and it isn’t even close. This should show even further that you gotta be conservative with promotions. Someone who grew up with MLB-level training access his entire life breezing through the minors and hitting a wall when making the majors is just not that surprising to me.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jul 1, 2024 8:11:25 GMT -5
Did Holliday really "hit a wall" ? I know it didn't look pretty, but he literally only got a week worth of PA's. In an alternate universe he stays up and is fine after a few more weeks.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 1, 2024 10:30:52 GMT -5
Hey, if you're looking for a solution in search of a problem, bring up Meidroth. He has only one talent -- minor league pitching can't get him out. When is it time to see how that talent plays in the majors? I mean kudos for Meidroth for having a great season, but whose place would he even take on the 26 man? Hamilton & Romy have a strong hold on their spots and I think Valdez is pretty safe until Grissom is ready. Unless there’s an injury to any of those dudes, Meidroth seems more to be a trade piece than anything else.
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Post by bentossaurus on Jul 1, 2024 12:10:34 GMT -5
Besides filling an actual MLB need, Meidroth has to be better than what they can pick up off the waiver line, as they'll have to carry him on the 40 man roster in the offseason.Late season call ups need to be guys you either put a lot of stock they gonna stay for years to come, guys you don't mind canning in the offseason, or guys you have to make a 40 man decision that offseason anyway. Unfortunately for Meidroth, I don't think he fits any of those categories. I think there is a fair chance that Meidroth might be ready for the majors at least as a bench piece but because he is not rule 5 eligible this year and therefore doesn't need to be added to the 40 man to protect him he probably needs to be quite a bit better than the other options at least by enough to make it worth adding him to the 40 man roster crunch. I think I agree at this point it is hard for me to envision him being added to the 40 and called up to the majors this season. Yeah, if Meidroth happened to have superlatively good SS defense I'd be all for bringing him up, even with this offensive projection. But as a 2B/Util it makes it hard to justify. If Enmanuel gets shipped out on a trade... now we're talking. He could play as the infield's Refsnyder.
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Post by crossedsabres8 on Jul 1, 2024 13:14:03 GMT -5
Did Holliday really "hit a wall" ? I know it didn't look pretty, but he literally only got a week worth of PA's. In an alternate universe he stays up and is fine after a few more weeks. I would definitely call it hitting a wall, he didn't struggle at all in the minors and then struck out in 18 out of 36 plate appearances. I'm sure he'll figure it out.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jul 1, 2024 15:39:15 GMT -5
Did Holliday really "hit a wall" ? I know it didn't look pretty, but he literally only got a week worth of PA's. In an alternate universe he stays up and is fine after a few more weeks. I would definitely call it hitting a wall, he didn't struggle at all in the minors and then struck out in 18 out of 36 plate appearances. I'm sure he'll figure it out. I mean, that's fair, I get why you would say that so I suppose I don't completey disagree. It's just that when I think of a guy hitting a wall I think of serious adversary one may face that could take substantial time to figure out. I wonder how quickly he may have adjusted if he had more than a week at the MLB level.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 1, 2024 17:15:03 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 1, 2024 17:38:28 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Jul 1, 2024 18:51:33 GMT -5
ERC and Dobbins ~98 is pretty fun
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Post by bentossaurus on Jul 1, 2024 20:07:40 GMT -5
Enough with this nonsense. Get this man to Greenville already.
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Post by bosoxnation on Jul 4, 2024 3:09:04 GMT -5
Jackson has like 200 ABs in AA-AAA. Mayer is at like 500. Thats not even comparable. Sorry, but Jackson is a tier above Marcelo and it isn’t even close. This should show even further that you gotta be conservative with promotions. It isn't close? That's a strong statement. I beg to differ. Jackson is ranked 1 by MLB. Mayer 7th. I can't wait for him to prove you wrong. I'll be here to remind you.
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