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7/19-7/21 Red Sox @ Dodgers Series Thread
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 21, 2024 20:56:30 GMT -5
I don’t wanna overreact, but a righty reliever, (good) righty bat, and a starter seem necessary for contention
It’s just criminal that Jamie Westbrook and Romy Gonzalez started these games in a play off chase.
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 21, 2024 20:59:45 GMT -5
LA: 3-4 w/ RISP, 2 LOB Boston: 3-14 w/ RISP, 10 LOB
3 run game. Nice.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 21, 2024 21:00:15 GMT -5
I need an exciting roster move to cleanse my palate after this series
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Post by asm18 on Jul 21, 2024 21:01:15 GMT -5
No reason to panic. Coulda easily won all 3 games 100% If Houck loses to the Rockies tomorrow, then we panic
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 21, 2024 21:05:30 GMT -5
I don’t wanna overreact, but a righty reliever, (good) righty bat, and a starter seem necessary for contention It’s just criminal that Jamie Westbrook and Romy Gonzalez started these games in a play off chase. Agree a RH bat and RH reliever seem important, but Romy Gonzalez has been pretty decent this year. He has virtually the same xwOBA (.319; just about league average), K% (21%), and BB% (7%) as Manny Machado this year, and he can play anywhere defensively. Another starter could be useful just as insurance, but I don't mind the rotation as currently constructed.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 21, 2024 21:05:49 GMT -5
I'm kinda over the Tyler O'Neill show - only 35 RBI on his 18 HR, loads of Ks in big spots. Only 12 doubles, no triples. With Raffy and Abreu blowing cold right now - and having Westbrook or Romy in the line up, things are a bit thin on offense.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Jul 21, 2024 21:05:56 GMT -5
I don’t wanna overreact, but a righty reliever, (good) righty bat, and a starter seem necessary for contention It’s just criminal that Jamie Westbrook and Romy Gonzalez started these games in a play off chase. I know Westbrook is a good start and all with his bening the minors for so long, but I have seen enough. Give Meidroth or Sogard a try. It is amazing how much losing to relievers can mess up your team.
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 21, 2024 21:07:19 GMT -5
Rafael got his OPS over .700, and his average is above .250. The push for the ROY continues
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 21, 2024 21:09:15 GMT -5
Too many ducks left on the pond this whole series.
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 21, 2024 21:10:18 GMT -5
I'm kinda over the Tyler O'Neill show - only 35 RBI on his 18 HR, loads of Ks in big spots. Only 12 doubles, no triples. With Raffy and Abreu blowing cold right now - and having Westbrook or Romy in the line up, things are a bit thin on offense. Agreed. Too much feast or famine when you’re relying on him to be the number one right handed hitter. I think the most important acquisitions are a real middle of the order righty (preferably one with control, because that hole exists long term), and a right handed reliever. We can’t just bank on Martin and Slaten being healthy, and the bullpen is looking really rough right now
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 21, 2024 21:11:59 GMT -5
Really thin bullpen to go with that thin air in Denver
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 21, 2024 21:12:04 GMT -5
Rafael got his OPS over .700, and his average is above .250. The push for the ROY continues He had both there a few day before the AS break. If he was a stock, it would signal a bottom is in place. ADD: Actually, it would signal a breakout one way or the other. My vote is for the upside.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 21, 2024 21:14:07 GMT -5
Really thin bullpen to go with that thin air in Denver H/t GrandSalami i’m surprised there’s not a special temporary IL for this? Like it’s not his fault he has a heart issue
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 21, 2024 21:14:10 GMT -5
I'm kinda over the Tyler O'Neill show - only 35 RBI on his 18 HR, loads of Ks in big spots. Only 12 doubles, no triples. With Raffy and Abreu blowing cold right now - and having Westbrook or Romy in the line up, things are a bit thin on offense. not just O’Neill, but Devers, Abreu, Wong, Casas have all been terrible in the clutch this year.
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Post by cdj on Jul 21, 2024 21:17:43 GMT -5
I'm kinda over the Tyler O'Neill show - only 35 RBI on his 18 HR, loads of Ks in big spots. Only 12 doubles, no triples. With Raffy and Abreu blowing cold right now - and having Westbrook or Romy in the line up, things are a bit thin on offense. I mean he just hit 2 homers in absolutely huge spots last night
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 21, 2024 21:18:09 GMT -5
I'm kinda over the Tyler O'Neill show - only 35 RBI on his 18 HR, loads of Ks in big spots. Only 12 doubles, no triples. With Raffy and Abreu blowing cold right now - and having Westbrook or Romy in the line up, things are a bit thin on offense. If it makes you feel any better, the two relievers we gave up for him are both currently sucking in AAA for St. Louis. They're young enough that I can't count out future improvements, but still. Slam dunk of an acquisition.
It's interesting - his Fangraphs Clutch stat is a bit below average, but nothing outrageous. Meanwhile he has a 162 wRC+ with the bases empty and a 103 wRC+ with men on. I think this is honestly just luck; for his career he has a 116 wRC+ with the bases empty and a 114 wRC+ with runners on.
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Post by cdj on Jul 21, 2024 21:19:36 GMT -5
I'm kinda over the Tyler O'Neill show - only 35 RBI on his 18 HR, loads of Ks in big spots. Only 12 doubles, no triples. With Raffy and Abreu blowing cold right now - and having Westbrook or Romy in the line up, things are a bit thin on offense. If it makes you feel any better, the two relievers we gave up for him are both currently sucking in AAA for St. Louis. They're young enough that I can't count out future improvements, but still. Slam dunk of an acquisition.
It's interesting - his Fangraphs Clutch stat is a bit below average, but nothing outrageous. Meanwhile he has a 162 wRC+ with the bases empty and a 103 wRC+ with men on. I think this is honestly just luck; for his career he has a 116 wRC+ with the bases empty and a 114 wRC+ with runners on.
If you look at his clutch situational splits on baseball reference they’re not even that bad. The worst is 2 outs with RISP but even then he’s still got like a .735 OPS. Late + close he’s apparently got Bonds #’s lol
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 21, 2024 21:22:09 GMT -5
I'm kinda over the Tyler O'Neill show - only 35 RBI on his 18 HR, loads of Ks in big spots. Only 12 doubles, no triples. With Raffy and Abreu blowing cold right now - and having Westbrook or Romy in the line up, things are a bit thin on offense. I mean he just hit 2 homers in absolutely huge spots last night Extreme boom or bust. It's possible to pick situations to refute any position - this is just the feel that I have of watching him pretty much all season. Since Abreu and now (hopefully temporarily) Raffy are also extreme boom or bust, it's too much for our line up to handle and win consistently.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 21, 2024 21:23:34 GMT -5
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Post by asm18 on Jul 21, 2024 21:25:01 GMT -5
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 21, 2024 21:28:48 GMT -5
Rafael got his OPS over .700, and his average is above .250. The push for the ROY continues We have to hope he gets a lot more starts in CF, and that Luis Gil hits a brick wall. Cowser's stats are a lot better on paper too, but I think his defensive stats are inflated a bit playing in Baltimore's massive LF, while Rafaela has a lot of value as a Swiss army knife sort of defender beyond what shows up in the box score. I'd be curious to see how voters will weigh that.
It's kind of frustrating that if Story had stayed healthy Rafaela probably would have played most of the year in CF, which would have done wonders for his WAR, as he's graded out as an awesome CF (8 DRS, 4 OAA in 415.1 innings) and a poor SS (-5 DRS, -8 OAA in 387.1 innings) so far. A full season of production from an elite defensive CF with an 88 wRC+ and added value on the basepaths could easily be the ROY some years, but I do think the time at SS will hurt him even though it's beyond his control and he was often the best available option there.
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 21, 2024 21:30:51 GMT -5
Well, that at least half explains why he pitched the 8th. The team clearly thinks he won't pitch much / at all in Colorado, so they figured they'd have him eat an inning... and it may have cost us the game. Hooray!
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 21, 2024 21:32:04 GMT -5
Explains why he was in the game
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Post by asm18 on Jul 21, 2024 21:40:17 GMT -5
How did it take three trips worth of “shocking his heart back into rhythm” before the medical people advising Kenley were like, “hey maybe don’t go to Colorado”
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 21, 2024 21:41:26 GMT -5
Right now I watch the Red Sox to see Duran's overall excellence and excitement, Rafaela's skill, exuberance and ability to drive in runs in big spots, Wong's steady game (hopefully very soon Raffy going off again), Tanner's consistent starts, Pivetta's bull dog attitude, and Hamilton's disrupting speed.
To nail down a playoff spot we will need more - ability to beat left handed pitchers, more from Masa, more consistency from Tyler and Wilyer, continued growth from Bello, a hope that Kutter's stinker tonight was an aberration, Martin and Slaten's return and Kenley's return to form, an inning eating new starter, a right handed bat and perhaps more in the pen. Cutting down on the Ks and not leaving a whole country on base so often would help too.
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