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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 19, 2024 22:12:15 GMT -5
12 blown saves in only 29 games? Nearly 42% of our games? That is not easy to do.
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 19, 2024 22:14:09 GMT -5
after 124 games 2024 - 65-59. where do we finish? 2023 - 66-58. finish 78-84 2022 - 60-64. finish 78-84 I feel a lot more confident this team will finish in the mid-80’s in wins, but at this rate it feels like even a late season surge (such as getting Slaten & Hendriks back) is going to have them a couple back of the WC in the end. But maybe we get lucky The Twins are showing signs of fraying, so maybe that late season series at Fenway is what decides the season…
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 19, 2024 22:14:44 GMT -5
Playoff odds now at 26%. Seattle at 20%, KC 78%, Minn at 91%
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Post by bosoxnation on Aug 19, 2024 22:15:04 GMT -5
Since July 1st we only have 3 wins when scoring 4 or less runs. THATS INSANE!
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Post by dirtdog on Aug 19, 2024 22:15:26 GMT -5
12 blown saves in only 29 games? Nearly 42% of our games? That is not easy to do. No but if your favorite team is whoever is playing the Red Sox it is a blast.
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Post by briam on Aug 19, 2024 22:20:09 GMT -5
I will now be predicting an August collapse for the Red Sox every season until further notice. It’s like Groundhog Day with this org.
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Post by dirtdog on Aug 19, 2024 22:21:28 GMT -5
Better hope Hendricks has something but I think he is a couple weeks out.
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Post by asm18 on Aug 19, 2024 22:21:56 GMT -5
I feel a lot more confident this team will finish in the mid-80’s in wins, but at this rate it feels like even a late season surge (such as getting Slaten & Hendriks back) is going to have them a couple back of the WC in the end. But maybe we get lucky The Twins are showing signs of fraying, so maybe that late season series at Fenway is what decides the season… The Hail Mary play for this season truly is being back 3 games to the Twins on September 20th…
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Post by keninten on Aug 19, 2024 22:22:28 GMT -5
And rightfully so, that contract is awful. He’s a good player but not worth that. It's hilarious to me that people watching this team in this second half can complain about paying too much money to one of the planet's best closers. And then people complain about Henry not spending. smh. Swap Hader in for Weissert this year and we might be in first place. Who would have closed? Kenley wasn`t going to be happy if he was not getting saves. Hader was alright in the first half and lights out since the break. This is bigger than one BP guy.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 19, 2024 22:23:29 GMT -5
Second half record 12-17
mostly wins should come vs Toronto, Texas, White Sox, Tampa. But enough?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 19, 2024 22:24:49 GMT -5
It's getting to the point where it's hard to root for the team. I see a team that simply doesnt deserve to win.
They beat themselves in every way possible.
I mean why does this team deserve to make the playoffs over KC?
They dont. They were in great shape at the all star break and have done literally nothing but shit on themselves since.
I was getting into this team, and I'm starting to get to the point that I've had it with them. Wake me up when the Sox actually spend the big bucks needed to get quality pitching and then wake me up again if the big 4 is still intact and when they matriculate to the majors...I still have concerns Anthony or Campbell will be traded away.
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Post by rhswanzey on Aug 19, 2024 22:25:11 GMT -5
The other thing that’s tough about this one is that, because Martin and Jansen both pitched tonight, we only get them for one more game this series. They are each pitching for the fourth time in five games if they go tomorrow.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 19, 2024 22:27:17 GMT -5
The other thing that’s tough about this one is that, because Martin and Jansen both pitched tonight, we only get them for one more game this series. They are each pitching for the fourth time in five games if they go tomorrow. They're going to get swept. Every time they lose these punch to the nuts games, the stench lingers for the next day or 2. They're getting swept again.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 19, 2024 22:29:53 GMT -5
Another telling stat -
Houck 8 wins despite 18 quality starts Kutter 8 wins despite 11 QS Bello 11 wins on 9 QS Pivetta 5 wins on 7 QS
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Post by keninten on Aug 19, 2024 22:32:47 GMT -5
It's getting to the point where it's hard to root for the team. I see a team that simply doesnt deserve to win. They beat themselves in every way possible. I mean why does this team deserve to make the playoffs over KC? They dont. They were in great shape at the all star break and have done literally nothing but shit on themselves since. I was getting into this team, and I'm starting to get to the point that I've had it with them. Wake me up when the Sox actually spend the big bucks needed to get quality pitching and then wake me up again if the big 4 is still intact and when they matriculate to the majors...I still have concerns Anthony or Campbell will be traded away. Hope they start spending as much as the 3 AL WC teams as of right now
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 19, 2024 22:33:20 GMT -5
The other thing that’s tough about this one is that, because Martin and Jansen both pitched tonight, we only get them for one more game this series. They are each pitching for the fourth time in five games if they go tomorrow. They're going to get swept. Every time they lose these punch to the nuts games, the stench lingers for the next day or 2. They're getting swept again. I disagree. This season has been doing enough hang around, look like they're back in it, then lose again until it's almost time to write them off before rebounding again. This season has been exhausting. They'll probably win the next 3 and then lose the following 3.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 19, 2024 22:38:15 GMT -5
It's getting to the point where it's hard to root for the team. I see a team that simply doesnt deserve to win. They beat themselves in every way possible. I mean why does this team deserve to make the playoffs over KC? They dont. They were in great shape at the all star break and have done literally nothing but shit on themselves since. I was getting into this team, and I'm starting to get to the point that I've had it with them. Wake me up when the Sox actually spend the big bucks needed to get quality pitching and then wake me up again if the big 4 is still intact and when they matriculate to the majors...I still have concerns Anthony or Campbell will be traded away. Hope they start spending as much as the 3 AL WC teams as of right now Spend more. They're the goddamn Red Sox.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Aug 19, 2024 22:45:44 GMT -5
Garrett Whitlock would have looked real good in this bullpen
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 19, 2024 22:48:47 GMT -5
The injuries have just caught up to us. Martin, Slaten, Whitlock, Giolito, hell even Booser, they can only take so much. We need another team to collapse now…
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 19, 2024 22:49:46 GMT -5
One more thought - if Sims clearly has problems getting Houston batters out, why go to him instead of Kelly?
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Post by congusgambler33 on Aug 19, 2024 22:55:14 GMT -5
this was 2 stinkers in a row. 11 hits and 2 runs against 3 hits and 4 runs. then the bullpen robs houck of his 5th win, but like Cora says as long as the starting pitching is pitching like this we'll be alright. Sorry Alex. You're bullpen is unreliable. the starters can never expect to go 6 innings with a lead and expect to get the win. that has to sting a little bit for those starters even though you are blase about it. Move on win the next game.......Doubt it, losing faith in all you say because it is a constant shit show and nothing else.
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 19, 2024 22:58:39 GMT -5
One more thought - if Sims clearly has problems getting Houston batters out, why go to him instead of Kelly? Kelly’s been pretty bad as well, but I’m guessing he’s injured with how light his usage is the last 5 games
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 19, 2024 23:03:43 GMT -5
this was 2 stinkers in a row. 11 hits and 2 runs against 3 hits and 4 runs. then the bullpen robs houck of his 5th win, but like Cora says as long as the starting pitching is pitching like this we'll be alright. Sorry Alex. You're bullpen is unreliable. the starters can never expect to go 6 innings with a lead and expect to get the win. that has to sting a little bit for those starters even though you are blase about it. Move on win the next game.......Doubt it, losing faith in all you say because it is a constant shit show and nothing else. I thought Cora's post game comments tonight were more just to defend his players - if not, he isn't admitting to understanding what is going on with the team. Games are running out. His pen has crumbled. Some of the same mistakes plaguing his teams for years continues - bad D, bad baserunning. Very odd.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 19, 2024 23:16:44 GMT -5
Unextend Cora. I am going to completely lose it about this Wong situation.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 19, 2024 23:23:58 GMT -5
Breslow’s deadline bullpen additions being absolutely hilarious right now.
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