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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 20, 2024 20:00:22 GMT -5
Red Sox bullpen acquisitions I heard have something like a combined 9 ERA and Priester has looked like ass in SSS in AAA. This team should have sold. It was painfully obvious the implosion was coming. Another wasted season.
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Post by dirtdog on Aug 20, 2024 20:00:27 GMT -5
when do we hold the manager accountable? This isn't the first time this happened with Cora. Hes just not the guy imo. I really don’t get how a manager is largely accused for play in the field… Same here. I am open to hear whoever could do a better job with this shit show of a pitching staff? If Cora left he would be out of work for about 30 seconds.
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Post by rhswanzey on Aug 20, 2024 20:02:05 GMT -5
I think there are probably interesting discussion points over whether the pendulum has swung so far towards rate stats and pitch quality/contact quality metrics that steady/durable/consistent/whatever is being undervalued.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 20, 2024 20:02:25 GMT -5
Red Sox bullpen acquisitions I heard have something like a combined 9 ERA and Priester has looked like ass in SSS in AAA. This team should have sold. It was painfully obvious the implosion was coming. Another wasted season. They were never going to sell at the deadline. They would have been blasted by both local and national media if they did. And rightfully so.
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Post by kingstephanos on Aug 20, 2024 20:02:34 GMT -5
I really don’t get how a manager is largely accused for play in the field… Same here. I am open to hear whoever could do a better job with this shit show of a pitching staff? If Cora left he would be out of work for about 30 seconds. He was out of work though. And only got back in the Manager helm due to the good graces of the Ownership. Cora was ostracized due to his time in Houston.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 20, 2024 20:02:53 GMT -5
I really don’t get how a manager is largely accused for play in the field… Same here. I am open to hear whoever could do a better job with this shit show of a pitching staff? If Cora left he would be out of work for about 30 seconds. Yankees or dodgers would hire him in a cocaine heartbeat
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Post by kingstephanos on Aug 20, 2024 20:04:10 GMT -5
Doc Rivers gets hired over and over again.
Doesn't make him a great coach 🤷🏾♂️
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Post by incandenza on Aug 20, 2024 20:04:25 GMT -5
I somehow disagree with every comment both for and against Cora in the last page of this thread.
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Post by bosoxnation on Aug 20, 2024 20:06:12 GMT -5
Hes makes 0 adjustments. Continues to have one of the worst defensive teams year after year. He just does the same thing over and over expecting different results. Every summer you're team falls apart. No injuries. Talent is the same. It really doesn't get much clearer that it's on him the most. Does Cora hit 1-9 and pitch 9 innings? Yes, coaching impacts play, but only goes so far. Injuries, roster construction and player performance take at least 80% of the blame. Ok I get it you're a Cora guy. What's the last adjustment Cora made to put the team in a better position? Continue to put Garcia in high leverage situations when he's got an era close to my credit score? Are we shaking anything up at all? Are we throwing more fastball since you know our era is like over 8 since the all start break? Is he working with any of the guys defensively seeing we have the worst infield defense in the AL? Tell me what hes done please.
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Post by dirtdog on Aug 20, 2024 20:09:26 GMT -5
Cora was suspended for the 2020 season by Major League Baseball for his role in the sign-stealing scandal, but he was brought back as Red Sox manager in 2021. Astros manager A.J. Hinch and general manager Jeff Lunhow also were given one-year suspensions.
That is why he was out of work. Anybody remember what this team looked like with Roenoke at the helm during that season? That is why he was brought back. To get the most out of the roster on a "stealth" rebuild.
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Post by notstarboard on Aug 20, 2024 20:11:19 GMT -5
Poor fundamentals indicates poor coaching. It also indicates a young team, but when you're this bad and not just once, but year in and year out, that's more than just youth. There's a lot of blame to go around but the manager needs to at least take some of it. I think Cora’s extension disputes any ambivalent feelings ownership or the FO has about his coaching… I agree. I also don't like it!
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Post by asm18 on Aug 20, 2024 20:11:34 GMT -5
I wonder what Ceddanne’s defensive metrics at SS would look like if he wasn’t a 23 year old rookie who we weren’t originally sure if he would make the team or not, was preparing to be the starting CF, and then… the Trevor Story dive happened 🤷♂️
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Post by keninten on Aug 20, 2024 20:12:05 GMT -5
What has Cora really done good? He walked on to a loaded 2018 team.
2019 3rd place 2020 suspended but team goes to ALCS 2021 2nd 2022 last 2023 last 2024 A good team with lousy fundamentals
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Post by dirtdog on Aug 20, 2024 20:14:03 GMT -5
What has Cora really done good? He walked on to a loaded 2018 team. 2019 3rd place 2020 suspended but team goes to ALCS 2021 2nd 2022 last 2023 last 2024 A good team with lousy fundamentals Might wanna take a look at your 2020 post. 24 and 36 and last place. When he WASNT manager.
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 20, 2024 20:17:08 GMT -5
Looks like Pivetta might be annoyed with not being allowed to throw a 4-seamer
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 20, 2024 20:17:41 GMT -5
That might be the most optimistic attempted outfield assist I've ever seen
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Post by incandenza on Aug 20, 2024 20:17:53 GMT -5
Imagine thinking you might get Hamilton out at home on that play. And imagine thinking Duran wouldn't make it to second if you threw home.
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Post by asm18 on Aug 20, 2024 20:21:05 GMT -5
I think the Casas mental swings might genuinely have been a real thing
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Post by cdj on Aug 20, 2024 20:21:38 GMT -5
I love Triston Casas
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Post by dirtdog on Aug 20, 2024 20:22:02 GMT -5
I think the Casas mental swings might genuinely have been a real thing How can ya not love that kid?
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Post by LoneStarSox on Aug 20, 2024 20:22:03 GMT -5
I think the Casas mental swings might genuinely have been a real thing super frustrated he didn’t get to finish that at bat with the bases juiced. He looks locked in today.
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Post by bosoxnation on Aug 20, 2024 20:22:15 GMT -5
Hamilton needs to get hot again. When he's on the bases it's game changing.
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Post by cmax on Aug 20, 2024 20:25:29 GMT -5
Hamilton is hot. In August, he is hitting .333 with a .395 OBP and a .985 OPS, and hasn't been caught stealing.
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Post by ixnayexxus on Aug 20, 2024 20:25:41 GMT -5
Good, now for the love of God hang on
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 20, 2024 20:26:00 GMT -5
I know Duran was not truly going for third, but I've seen the umps call interference for less, where is the line??
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