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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 3, 2013 11:52:34 GMT -5
We're recording a draft preview podcast tonight, and I figured I'd toss a couple polls out to gauge where our core visitors - the forum posters - were at with regard to the top pick.
For this poll, please say who you WANT the Red Sox to draft at #7 overall. I'm leaving out Appel, Gray, and Bryant under the assumption that they're pie-in-the-sky for pick #7, but otherwise, assume the Sox can pick whoever you want them to pick.
If you would like, you can post your reasoning here. In particular, I'm interested in posters' preferences by rank, so give me your top 5 in order of preference below if you'd like. I may read a couple posts' reasoning on the podcast, but no promises. (Please don't turn this into a discussion - use the draft thread for discussion.)
Thanks all,
Chris
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Post by soxpatsfan113 on Jun 3, 2013 13:18:33 GMT -5
1. Frazier 2. Stewart 3. Meadows 4. Shipley 5. Peterson
Quick Reasoning: This is a once in a decade chance to get a prospect with big time potential. Good college guys like Moran will always be there in the 20s-30s (ex. JBJ, Barnes, Ranaudo), but guys like Frazier and Stewart, who have superstar potential, are never on the board where we usually pick.
EDIT: I'd take Peterson over Moran. Peterson has good power (2nd best behind Bryant), and thus projects well to 1B. Moran's power doesn't project to 1B, and even if he can hit .300, he's a waste of a spot at 1B, where we can afford to put a masher who can't play D.
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Post by honkbal on Jun 3, 2013 13:26:35 GMT -5
1. Frazier 2. Stewart 3. Meadows 4. Shipley 5. Moran Quick Reasoning: This is a once in a decade chance to get a prospect with big time potential. Good college guys like Moran will always be there in the 20s-30s (ex. JBJ, Barnes, Ranaudo), but guys like Frazier and Stewart, who have superstar potential, are never on the board where we usually pick. This. I've got Stewart in front of Frazier today, but I could go either way.
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Post by raftsox on Jun 3, 2013 13:29:05 GMT -5
Stewart Meadows Frazier Stanek Shipley
Stewart is my clear-cut favorite. Meadows is a slightly lower risk than Frazier for me. I dislike Frazier's hit tool enough that I put Meadows higher. I think Stanek is underrated because of an off season, so I'd take him before Shipley.
Note: I would be very unhappy with a Moran pick. I think he's the consensus "safe" pick of the position players left and will probably play a passable 3B for a little while in the majors, but his bat isn't special. He's this high because it's a weak draft class; in a good year he's a late first round talent.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 3, 2013 13:41:07 GMT -5
1. Stewart 2. Meadows 3. Frazier 4. Shipley 5. Ball
Stewart is the best scenario for the Red Sox. You have to jump at the opportunity to draft a pitcher with #1 potential. He is athletic enough to reach that potential, and he his stuff isn't as raw as other Texas HS pitching prospects (Shelby Miller). I don't think Stewart falls to us, but if he does the Sox need to take him.
I rank Meadows higher than Frazier because I am worried with Frazier's ability to hit for average down the line. He seems like the kind of player who would hit bombs at Greenville and Salem, but struggle mightily when he gets to Portland. Meadows is a better hitter, with a frame to add the power down the line.
Ball and Shipley are both decent consolation prizes. Would be happy with either of them.
Just please, no Moran. I want a high ceiling player here.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 3, 2013 13:44:12 GMT -5
1. Stewart 2. Meadows 3. Frazier 4. Ball
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 3, 2013 13:52:22 GMT -5
Stewart Frazier Meadows Shipley Moran Ball
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Post by mainesox on Jun 3, 2013 14:02:17 GMT -5
1) Stewart 2) Frazier 3) Shipley 4) Meadows 5) Peterson*
*For the fifth spot I'm actually torn between Peterson, Smith, and Renfroe.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jun 3, 2013 14:02:49 GMT -5
Frazier Stewart Meadows Ball Moran Shipley
Im a risk taker, I'm mostly about upside so I'm very willing to place 3 high schoolers ahead of the college guys. I've recently moved Meadows ahead of the bottom 3 because the more video I see on him, and the more I read about him, the more I like him. Sorry to ramble, but in a nutshell it's about Ceiling to me. The system is deep, we don't need supplemental guys and guys who can get here quick so the prospect of a 5 tool player is just too much for me to pass.
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Post by goingbuch on Jun 3, 2013 14:09:54 GMT -5
1. Stewart 2. Frazier 3. Meadows 4. Shipley 5. Ball 6. McGuire 7. Renfroe
Moran comes after at least these guys for me. I'd almost rather the Sox take Bickford or another high ceiling high school arm than a guy Callis comps to Brett Wallace. I'm not interested in a first baseman who hits .280 with 15 home runs and I hope the sox aren't either. We need to swing for the fences a little more with a rare shot at a top ten pick.
Edit: who am I kidding, I want Frazier over Meadows.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 3, 2013 14:23:08 GMT -5
1 - Stewart 2 - Frazier 3 - Meadows 4 - Shipley 5 - Ball
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jun 3, 2013 14:29:13 GMT -5
1) Stewart ( Gotta go with the high upside starting pitching prospect. Best overall value in THE most important position ) 2) Frazier ( He's a competitor putting up much better numbers right now than Meadows. Huge upside potential. Bat speed is a huge tool. ) 3) Shipley ( consensus pick for the next best pitching prospect ). Not a lot of wear on his arm and has a feel for pitching's all important secondary stuff ) 4) Philip Ervin ( I'm not a scout but he looks like a bat would would succeed at the mlb level and he has loads of speed also. Led Cape in HR AND SB and followed up strong this year in college ). Sleeper pick who may actually end up being a mega stud. The Scotty Pippen of this year's baseball draft ). 5) Petersen ( best college bat available maybe. Good Team USA performance. )
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Post by TheCerebral1 on Jun 3, 2013 14:39:14 GMT -5
1) Kohl Stewart, (RHP) 2) Clint Frazier, (LF/RF) 3) Trey Ball, (LHP) 4) Austin Meadows, (CF) 5) Braden Shipley, (RHP)
That's the way my board would look. However, as long as it is not Colin Moran I am fine with any of the picks.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 3, 2013 15:01:59 GMT -5
Stewart is the easy choice to me, he has potential for four plus pitches. Frazier has great bat speed, but the more I read up on him the more I worry about the amount he is going to strike out and whether he will develop the pitch recognition.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 3, 2013 15:03:56 GMT -5
I've been a Frazier guy all along but I have flipped to Stewart. I want that ace, the Red Sox almost never get a chance to draft the highly rated HS pitcher, if they do they should pounce.
My board would look like
1) Kohl Stewart 2) Clint Frazier 3) Austin Meadows
If all those guys are gone they can do what ever they want and I won't gripe.
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Post by hammerhead on Jun 3, 2013 15:06:36 GMT -5
1. Bryant ( I know it's a one in a million shot that he's still around, but I think he's the most likely to be there of the top 3) 2. Stewart ( I know it's a one in a million shot that he's still around, but I think he's the most likely of the top 5) 3. Frazier He's gonna be a star, He is elite elite bat speed. That will make the difference in any scenario in which he struggles. 4. Meadows I think he can be a very good player and will become a prototypical RF 5. Ball I think he has the atheletism that usually translates well 6. Moran guys like this sometimes surprise you and turn out to have higher ceilings then you'd think
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Post by widewordofsport on Jun 3, 2013 15:22:17 GMT -5
I don't follow the draft too much, but I'd really like to see them draft a high-impact OF bat.
I don't think you can draft for need obviously, because a guy like Buchholz might be a free agent before a HS pitcher drafted this year is even ready, but it really would be nice to watch a high ceiling corner OF bat in the system.
Realism combined with want, I'd take Frazier or Meadows.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 3, 2013 15:27:37 GMT -5
Stewart and it's not even close for me. Sadly, Minnesota will most likely draft him at #4 so our choice will probably come down to Frazier or Meadows.
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Post by rdsxmbnt on Jun 3, 2013 16:22:22 GMT -5
1. Stewart 2. Frazier 3. Meadows
4. Ball 5. Moran
Have to say I'd be pretty disappointed not getting one of Stewart/Frazier/Meadows (assuming Gray/Appel/Bryant are gone). Seems like the truly high upside guys fall off significantly after that group of players.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 3, 2013 16:28:14 GMT -5
Frazier. Stewart. Meadows. Shipley.
This assumes Moran is gone by 7.
Here's hoping stupidity/signability/general GM unpredictability somehow gets one of the top 3 (Appel, Grey, Bryant) to slip to the Sox. Here' also hoping I buy the winning Powerball ticket on Weds.
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Post by rider on Jun 3, 2013 18:41:13 GMT -5
I would have my big board as 1. Bryant 2. Appel 3. Gray (all likely to be gone)
4. Stewart 5. Meadows 6. Frazier 7. Ball 8. Moran
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 3, 2013 21:10:28 GMT -5
My preference assuming that Bryant, Appel, and Gray are long gone before #7 is that the Sox get Kohl Stewart. A pitcher with a ceiling of #1 is a special thing, something the Sox could most definitely use. That is the most valuable commodity in baseball.
I figure if the Astros cut a deal for somebody outside of the top 3, that would probably sent Stewart to the Sox, but I doubt that's happening. And I guess the Twins will be snagging Stewart.
If that's the case, I'd be perfectly happy with Clint Frazier. I certainly like the idea of Frazier perhaps teaming up with Bogaerts one day batting 3-4 in the lineup. Of course a lot would have to happen positively for that scenario to ever unfold, but Frazier has some rare power, and apparently the right attitude to match, and the Sox are certainly light in impact power hitting OFs in the system.
If both of those guys are gone, then I'd settle on Meadows and take a more sure thing. With 25 HR power, RF defense, good plate discipline, and a good LH stick, that reminds me of the last #7 pick the Sox had in the draft 20 years ago - Trot Nixon.
If the Sox wound up with a guy like that, I'd be quite alright with it, although I do hope the Sox get even more that!
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Post by jmei on Jun 3, 2013 21:48:15 GMT -5
1. Frazier 2. Stewart 3. Moran 4. Meadows 5. Shipley
I think Moran is underrated by the community. If he can stick at 3B, he's almost certainly an above-average regular. Even if he doesn't, I think he could be Todd Helton minus the Coors effect (career .288/.396/.448 road hitter), which is a pretty solid floor.
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Post by CMF on Jun 4, 2013 9:46:33 GMT -5
1) Kohl Stewart 2) Braden Shipley 3) Trey Ball 4) Colin Moran 5) Austin Meadows
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jun 4, 2013 10:30:33 GMT -5
I want the Sox to draft at #7 the position that is weakest in the remainder of the draft, as I understand that this draft is not all that strong. Attack other positions by quantity later in the draft. Heck, I'd take the best catcher available at #7 if it wasn't too much of a stretch. That would be Reese McGuire, I guess.
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