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Post by jdb on Dec 22, 2012 13:20:37 GMT -5
Happy for Ross but glad it wasn't us giving him 3 years.
Wonder who they are planning on dealing? Now that they have a SS what are their needs?
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Post by remember04 on Dec 22, 2012 13:23:11 GMT -5
Happy for Ross but glad it wasn't us giving him 3 years. Wonder who they are planning on dealing? Now that they have a SS what are their needs? That's right, Upton for Andrus as a starting point made the most sense for both sides.
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Post by Guidas on Dec 22, 2012 13:24:52 GMT -5
Not sure if they will move Kubel or Upton but I'd still be in for aggressively exploring Upton esp with him being somewhat devalued right now.
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Post by jdb on Dec 22, 2012 13:32:36 GMT -5
Parra wouldn't be a bad platoon for LF but I'm not sure a healthy Kalish wouldn't be as good or better.
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Post by sibbysisti on Dec 22, 2012 13:39:14 GMT -5
Parra wouldn't be a bad platoon for LF but I'm not sure a healthy Kalish wouldn't be as good or better. "Healthy" is the key word here. For those of us watching him play in September it was almost as painful as the pain he felt in his shoulder. It was that obvious. Ryan has missed almost two years due to injury. He needs to play every day to get his stroke and timing back. Platooning will not do it.
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Post by jmei on Dec 22, 2012 13:52:27 GMT -5
The deal is three years, $26m guaranteed with a fourth year club option, per Jim Bowden of ESPN. Really glad the Red Sox didn't come close to matching.
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Post by jmei on Dec 22, 2012 13:54:40 GMT -5
Happy for Ross but glad it wasn't us giving him 3 years. Wonder who they are planning on dealing? Now that they have a SS what are their needs? That's right, Upton for Andrus as a starting point made the most sense for both sides. Remember that they just acquired SS Didi Gregorius for Trevor Bauer in the Choo deal. I'm not sure Towers is still gunning for Andrus. An Upton-to-Texas deal still makes sense for all parties, though.
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Post by remember04 on Dec 22, 2012 13:59:08 GMT -5
That's right, Upton for Andrus as a starting point made the most sense for both sides. Remember that they just acquired SS Didi Gregorius for Trevor Bauer in the Choo deal. I'm not sure Towers is still gunning for Andrus. An Upton-to-Texas deal still makes sense for all parties, though. Lost in translation but that was a part of the point of my post. If the Rangers are still interested there would have to be a new starting point or a third team involved.
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Post by amfox1 on Dec 22, 2012 22:22:27 GMT -5
36 year old Ryan Freel dead, believed to be a suicide. RIP
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Post by jdb on Dec 22, 2012 23:28:22 GMT -5
Man this just makes me sick. I wish people would reach out for help. He apparently had a wife and kid too. This article says he had some concussions but who knows what the reasons were. sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2898862"It's probably nine or 10 I've had," he said. "But nothing like this. I'd bounce back in a few days, miss four or five days, but never had the lingering effects like this. I had some dizziness and some headaches, but not like I'm having now. This is totally different."
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Post by welovewally on Dec 23, 2012 10:11:14 GMT -5
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Post by remember04 on Dec 23, 2012 11:26:20 GMT -5
And their first rounder is protected so the Yankees get F-boned on the comp...not that they've shown the ability to do anything with it lately.
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Post by polarbear91 on Dec 23, 2012 11:55:18 GMT -5
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And their first rounder is protected so the Yankees get F-boned on the comp...not that they've shown the ability to do anything with it lately.[/quote]
Again, this is not accurate. Yankees get a sandwich round pick regardless. Cleveland forfeits their 2nd rounder instead of their first but this has no bearing on the Yankees compensation.
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Post by remember04 on Dec 23, 2012 12:42:48 GMT -5
And their first rounder is protected so the Yankees get F-boned on the comp...not that they've shown the ability to do anything with it lately.[/quote] Again, this is not accurate. Yankees get a sandwich round pick regardless. Cleveland forfeits their 2nd rounder instead of their first but this has no bearing on the Yankees compensation.[/quote] Damn it that's right. New CBA confusion
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 23, 2012 13:11:15 GMT -5
36 year old Ryan Freel dead, believed to be a suicide. RIP That really is terrible. RIP.
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Post by lancect on Dec 27, 2012 15:47:06 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 31, 2012 18:50:08 GMT -5
RT @prospectinsider: Hearing Mariners have progressed in trade talks for a hitter. Indications it's Ethier. Multiple players involved.
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Post by Guidas on Dec 31, 2012 19:00:08 GMT -5
Ethier? I though you said "a hitter"?
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Post by remember04 on Dec 31, 2012 21:20:59 GMT -5
Ethier? I though you said "a hitter"? Leave them alone, they're trying to lead the league in disappointing bats.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jan 1, 2013 8:56:06 GMT -5
RT @prospectinsider: Hearing Mariners have progressed in trade talks for a hitter. Indications it's Ethier. Multiple players involved. Always looking ahead............if Ethier is moved............it gives a very positive "landing site" for Jacoby Ellsbury next off-season. I always felt that both LA teams were strong places for him to head, but currently these teams have no room or need for Ells. It, of course, has always been a long shot that he would come back to Beantown, but with fewer and fewer potential teams having a place or need for his talents, it was always still a remote possibility. My best case scenario was for Ells to have a year like .300, 20 homers, 40 stolen bases, but NOT a year like 2011, and find no takers for a contract him and Boras are seeking...........and the Sox swoop in and sign him for $15 mill per for 5 years. Doubtful, but hopeful.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 1, 2013 9:56:06 GMT -5
RT @prospectinsider: Hearing Mariners have progressed in trade talks for a hitter. Indications it's Ethier. Multiple players involved. Always looking ahead............if Ethier is moved............it gives a very positive "landing site" for Jacoby Ellsbury next off-season. I always felt that both LA teams were strong places for him to head, but currently these teams have no room or need for Ells. It, of course, has always been a long shot that he would come back to Beantown, but with fewer and fewer potential teams having a place or need for his talents, it was always still a remote possibility. My best case scenario was for Ells to have a year like .300, 20 homers, 40 stolen bases, but NOT a year like 2011, and find no takers for a contract him and Boras are seeking...........and the Sox swoop in and sign him for $15 mill per for 5 years. Doubtful, but hopeful. If Ellsbury puts together that kind of season, he'll get alot more than $15 million per year. BJ Upton got that contract from the Braves for doing a lot less than batting .300 with 20 homers and 40 steals. If Ellsbury puts up those numbers he'll command $20 million per year. If he puts up 2011 numbers, he'll command about $23 million per year with the new market rates. I think he'd have to hit around.260 - .270 with 15 homers and 40 steals to get $15 million per year. Either way, Ellsbury is likely gone and it won't be the annual $ value that scares the Sox off, but rather the six plus years that Boras will demand and somebody will ultimately give him - provided that he stays healthy in 2013.
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Post by buffs4444 on Jan 3, 2013 20:32:17 GMT -5
Go get him Atlanta....
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Post by mredsox89 on Jan 10, 2013 19:04:17 GMT -5
Justin Upton apparently invoked his no trade clause to derail a deal to the Mariners
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Post by remember04 on Jan 10, 2013 19:24:30 GMT -5
Justin Upton apparently invoked his no trade clause to derail a deal to the Mariners I don't blame him but wow.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jan 10, 2013 20:40:31 GMT -5
Upton's no trade list now includes the Red Sox
Jerry Crasnick þ@jcrasnick #Mariners, #bluejays, #redsox and #cubs are the 4 teams on Upton's no-trade list. This deal was never gonna work.
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