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Post by grandsalami on Jan 11, 2024 20:58:49 GMT -5
Interesting. Doesn’t seem like a horrible deal for the Yankees. 2/$37MM isn’t a crazy commitment. He is a headcase. And i doubt he would even come here after Cora called him out w few years ago
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 11, 2024 20:53:01 GMT -5
Jomboy makes a good point here. Pretty much saying (you are telling yankee fans that Stroman was not even your first choice)
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 11, 2024 20:47:22 GMT -5
Between Stroman and Verdugo, there's gonna be some drama in the rivalry this year Cant wait for the first time NYY fans boo him after a bad outing. They would boo their mother if they grounded into a game ending double play
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 11, 2024 20:40:57 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 11, 2024 19:04:21 GMT -5
Robert Murray about the Imanaga 2x offer rumor "It's interesting. I'm not able to confirm that, but I know he had some good offers out there. I'll say that much" He also said the Giants and Angels were not involved, so it's sounding like we beat the Cubs offer and were used as leverage up until the end www.youtube.com/live/WAk0OKAYbvk?si=GiADko573EswkUxU&t=627
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 11, 2024 15:10:20 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 11, 2024 13:04:09 GMT -5
Buster Olney Prediction: The Red Sox will do something aggressive and expensive Red Sox chairman Tom Werner told reporters his team was ready to go "full throttle" at the time they hired Craig Breslow, and while Boston's longshot attempt to sign Yoshinobu Yamamoto didn't work out, there are plenty of other investment opportunities available, from Snell to Montgomery to a possible trade for Cease. If the Red Sox don't do something big, Werner's words will become the backbone narrative of their 2024 season. If they struggle to contend in a tough AL East -- as expected -- then Breslow's launch in his new job will be sabotaged; as manager Alex Cora's contract drifts toward expiration, the team will again be giving away tickets to college students in September. The Red Sox will make a big move for the same reason they spent huge dollars on Rafael Devers: They have no choice.www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39272778/mlb-free-agency-trades-bold-predictions-offseason-2023-24When they go cheap, it's because they're cheap. When they make big moves, it's because they have no choice. And that right there is how you get this completely unmovable media narrative that no facts can do anything to change. Exactly! Just like when literally everyone in the media laughed off the report (from A DR based reporter) of the sox going to the DR that December for extension talks, as nothing more than "to celebrate Devers birthday".. and not to you know, discuss an extension that was announced shortly thereafter..
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 11, 2024 12:54:03 GMT -5
It's going to be great when the Red Sox do make a major acquisition and their payroll pushes toward the first CBT threshold and everyone thinks it was because they shamed the billionaire into doing it and not because it is exactly what they said they would do. If this ends up happening, and I doubt it will at this point, won't be because they got shamed in it - it will be because the tickets sales are way down from what they expected it to be OR..... Hear me out.... Boras likes to work slowly..... Literally all the top remaining FA's are repped by Boras... That says a lot, and none of it has anything to do with the Sox
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 11, 2024 11:13:38 GMT -5
Is it so crazy, OTOH, for the owner of an entertainment company to respond to public demand for entertainment? I mean, why *shouldn’t* fan pressure sometimes shift plans? If they think signing a Montgomery might get more asses in seats, maybe that should factor in? because things do not happen that quickly.. Again, his agent is Boras.... a bunch of the remaining "top" FA are represented by Boras... Boras like to work slowly..... I could go on, but I will stop there
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 11, 2024 11:04:44 GMT -5
Buster Olney Prediction: The Red Sox will do something aggressive and expensive Red Sox chairman Tom Werner told reporters his team was ready to go "full throttle" at the time they hired Craig Breslow, and while Boston's longshot attempt to sign Yoshinobu Yamamoto didn't work out, there are plenty of other investment opportunities available, from Snell to Montgomery to a possible trade for Cease. If the Red Sox don't do something big, Werner's words will become the backbone narrative of their 2024 season. If they struggle to contend in a tough AL East -- as expected -- then Breslow's launch in his new job will be sabotaged; as manager Alex Cora's contract drifts toward expiration, the team will again be giving away tickets to college students in September. The Red Sox will make a big move for the same reason they spent huge dollars on Rafael Devers: They have no choice. www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39272778/mlb-free-agency-trades-bold-predictions-offseason-2023-24It's going to be great when the Red Sox do make a major acquisition and their payroll pushes toward the first CBT threshold and everyone thinks it was because they shamed the billionaire into doing it and not because it is exactly what they said they would do. 1000000% That's an asinine "argument" by Buster.. Montgomery is a FA represented by Boras... Montgomery has not been signed by anyone yet. Its like someone saying that the Sox signed Devers to his extension because the ownership group was booed at the Winter Weekend last year....
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 20:28:09 GMT -5
Floating this out there, not asking what you would do, or injecting my opinion, do you think the Red Sox would take a flyer on one of the two Dodger reclamation projects, Bauer or Urias. Urias still has a ways to go in the legal system but wont face a felony charge. I think with the pushback that the Bruins got last year, and with the FO being absolutely petrified of bad PR, I don't see it happening. They (the sox) also had their own PR issue with that pitcher whose name I forgot
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 20:00:47 GMT -5
The fact that nobody was willing to beat that contract makes me feel good it wasn't the Sox. There has some to be something scaring pretty much everyone off, no? Yup... Very rare for players to get a contact that was way lower than pretty much every publication predicted at the start of the offseason... Most of the time a player gets close to or more than predicted.. (
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 19:54:39 GMT -5
This is the first FA deal this winter that I’m incredibly bummed they missed out on. That seems like a fantastic deal for Chicago. I can’t even wrap my head around if that’s team or player friendly. So it’s 4 year deal, that could be a 5 year deal, but if not it could be a 2 year deal, or a 3 year deal, unless no options are taken and it’s just a 4 year deal and now we are spinning into the endless abyss The interest in Imanaga wasn’t even in the stratosphere of what the reports suggested, and makes me wonder if there were some injury concerns that scared so many teams off
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 19:29:19 GMT -5
No. And you are missing the damn point. Go look up articles of how certain fans behaved at last year's event and tell me they (those fans) did not act like children. And if you think those fans showed acceptable behavior that says more about you. those "fans" (notice the " ") ruined it for everyone by acting like children... I don't think it's me who's missing the point, bud. The FO got pushback for how terribly they have been running the team over the last few years, and intsead of fixing it they are just canceling the event. It's cowardly. LOL..... So you think those "fans" acted in an acceptable manner? If you think that was "pushback" you have no idea what you are talking about... Again go read the dozens of articles from the day of the event and tell me those fans acted like adults
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 19:15:59 GMT -5
Nope. They saw the shitshow of how certain “fans” behaved last year and thought better of having it. So people aren't "fans" if they don't tow the line? What a terrible opinion to have. You should feel bad for having it, to be honest. Actually I have an idea, they can just have you go up there and do the Q&A. You literally haven't let a single negative post go without comment all off-season. At least you're not a coward, so kudos for that. No. And you are missing the damn point. Go look up articles of how certain fans behaved at last year's event and tell me they (those fans) did not act like children. And if you think those fans showed acceptable behavior that says more about you. those "fans" (notice the " ") ruined it for everyone by acting like children...
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 19:08:39 GMT -5
I see this as they're admitting they've totally screwed up this off-season. If things were going as planned they would 100% get up there and tell us how wrong we are, and they are fully behind what's going on. They're in over their head and are cowards to boot. Nope. They saw the shitshow of how certain “fans” behaved last year and thought better of having it.
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 16:59:48 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 9:54:02 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 1:59:12 GMT -5
So in other words, modest, short-term guarantees like what Imanaga just signed with the Cubs would not have any impact on the Red Sox's short, medium, or long term payroll flexibility. Difference is one has played in MLB before. The other has not. And is a literal wildcard due to his size and gopherites for starters I honestly think it’s pretty telling what Imanaga actually ended up signing for compared to what everyone thought he would get at the start. Predictions have usually either been nearly spot on or undershoot what the player gets. Not often it predicts it wrong the opposite way Feels like it was his agent pumping up his value. I mean we just heard this morning that the giants were leading to sign him. Only to hear like an hour later they were not.
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 1:54:05 GMT -5
In other words, you don't trust the team to do the right thing, so you'd prefer they do the wrong thing because that's better than doing nothing? Even when doing nothing would be a necessary step en route to your hypothetical right thing? No I didnt say do the wrong thing. I dont think its always necessarily right or necessarily wrong. There are shades of gray in between. Was David Price the right thing to do? How about John Lackey? Keith Foulke? Shane Victorino? Mike Napoli? My guess is if they sign Snell or Montgomery, it'll help them become a team that can win enough games to make the playoffs. I'd assume this in conjunction with signing a RH cleanup hitter and perhaps another pitcher - in this type of scenario a Ryu could make sense. But yes there are drawbacks. They could be bad in the last few years of the deal (hell I'll admit they could be hurt or bad in the first year, too, but that goes for just about everybody). Yes as the young team is gelling they could be a sunken cost. But these days with escalating salaries in a few years its possible to dump part of the deals. It happens more often these days, but there's also the possibility the effectiveness lasts long enough to help an emerging core. Understand I'm not saying do a lunatic Xander signing. I'm saying be prepared to overpay on a free agent, especially if it helps preserve the farm system so that it allows those young guys to remain in the organization and become productive and cheap players helping to offset the cost of the free agent. Dont know if that completely answers your question but that's how I see it, as a necessary evil. Mike Napoli and Shane Victorino both signed “modest” contracts (in my opinion) Victorino’s was a three-year deal is worth $39 million And Mike Napoli’s went thru like 6 revisions I believe due to his hip issues bleacherreport.com/articles/1498093-mike-napoli-signs-1-year-deal-how-avascular-necrosis-affects-his-contract-hips. So those types of deals would not have the impact of being an Albatros like xander or Stanton etc Those are the types of deals the sox usually excel at vs the large $$$$$$$ deals (especially pitchers (and crawford/panda)
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2024 0:38:59 GMT -5
Bloom is fired. My dream is alive. And kicking! I think it's becoming apparent ownership asked Bloom to do an impossible job. Bloom could have easily done what Breslow has done this off-season. Trade away Verdugo for a less than stellar return (Benintendi redux), sign a reliever for 1/1, and bring in Tyler O'Neil. I do applaud the Sale trade. That was creative. I would think Bloom would do that same deal, but I'll credit Breslow for that. I just wonder how much Bloom was told, "you can't tear down, you can't spend, and we expect you to compete with no farm or young talent". This is really a depressing off-season. This to me is the real proof Henry just doesn't care anymore. When their teams were bad in the past, he over corrected with bad contracts and trades like Carl Crawford and Pablo Sandoval. At least when they whiffed on those you knew they at least cared. When you're in last place 3 out of 4 years and not looking great in the 5th, I really don't care how a guy might look 7 years from now.Team can still surprise and sign Montgomery and/or Snell, but at this point I doubt they do anything other than trade away guys like Jansen. A lot of talking points get repeated because the MLB offseason is incredibly slow. The bolded to me is asinine to put it bluntly. That showed he cared? Uh. No. It didnt. It just showed he was spending money unwisely. Im pretty sure none of us would be happy if we were stuck with multiple albatross Contracts like the one SD gave Xander. .
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 9, 2024 20:50:25 GMT -5
Not a good sign when the agent doesn't want to give details If it comes in that low, makes me think wonder if there are some injury concerns or flags. Which could explain why a lot of teams were not interested in him
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 8, 2024 16:07:09 GMT -5
I thought there was a deadline for signing free agents? Do they go forever now and bore us too death with all this inactivity? 10 days of nothing except watch as targets sign elsewhere. You must have forgotten about the time where they had to setup a "FA Spring training camp" a few years ago because there were so many FA still unsigned
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 7, 2024 22:11:54 GMT -5
Cotillo is obsessed with the ownership doesn’t spend anything narrative Cotillo has been exactly right this off-season. Just because a bunch of homers want to complain when someone says something bad about the Red Sox doesn't mean much of anything. The Sox have thoroughly embarrassed themselves over the last few years, and are now refusing to move off the same track that put them there. Lol. Literally the only team that has spent much money this offseason is the dodgers. Nobody else. Dude has an axe to grind
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 7, 2024 22:07:34 GMT -5
Cotillo is obsessed with the ownership doesn’t spend anything narrative yup.
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