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Post by grandsalami on Dec 8, 2023 14:16:58 GMT -5
The “there’s plenty of off-season left!” isn’t the anxiety here. If a husband tells his wife “I haven’t gotten the kids their Christmas gifts yet, but don’t worry Christmas is still a few weeks away” while he’s on his way out the door to Encore Casino for the third time this week, time left isn’t the worry. Maybe they’re a week away from reeling in Yamamoto, Jordan Montgomery, and right handed slugger who knows… but it ain’t looking great! Its DEC... more than a "few weeks away" this sky is falling stuff gets really old IMO
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 8, 2023 14:05:36 GMT -5
The fact that there is a non-zero percent chance of Ohtani on the Blue Jays and Soto on the Yankees at this time next week is incredibly uncomfortable. its ST already?
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 8, 2023 12:10:54 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 8, 2023 11:59:46 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 8, 2023 11:54:49 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 8, 2023 11:48:15 GMT -5
You could also use Yoshida as another example.... very few reports linking him to BOS before it was announced we signed him
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 8, 2023 11:43:13 GMT -5
I think I agree with his takeaway, but I feel like I remember the Red Sox brass going to the DR being reported at the time IIRC that was from a DR based reporter and I think there were a bunch of other local reporters who threw water on it at first
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 8, 2023 11:38:37 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 8, 2023 0:49:14 GMT -5
Been on the road only to get where I was going, check in, and... the back and forth hasn't changed! We do need to show at least a little patience before getting the knives out and going after each other. The FO has provided a well-provisioned bull pen so far. Let's see who inhabits starter-land when all is said and done. Yup. I am fully ready to complain once starters come off the board and sign with other teams. That has not happened yet. So. I will not get my “pitchforks” out just yet.
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 7, 2023 22:57:12 GMT -5
Besides missing the point, your making your point at an early snap shot in the off-season. You might as well say the sky is falling. For Pete's sake at least let the off-season play out before declaring the sky is falling. Red Sox fan optimism on this forum has been very odd to me lately. Between another last place finish, a new GM, no additions a month in, Breslow feeling surprised that the Winter Meetings did not go as far as he wanted, losing a large number of players in the Rule 5 Draft, and our greatest rival acquiring Juan Soto, things don't seem so hot in Boston at the moment.
I have long been on the "it's a process" line of thought, but after four years of rebuilding, it's actually time to have urgency like the ownership claimed they would when Breslow was hired.
This complacency is really weird.
No additions a month in? Come on dude. Literally every starting pitcher is still on the market. you are better than parroting sports talk bs.
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 7, 2023 21:36:07 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 7, 2023 16:38:53 GMT -5
Guys I'm pretty sure they're not going to open the year $50 million below the luxury tax Wait, so the hot heads on the radio who are saying they want to become the next A's are lying? /s
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 7, 2023 15:59:46 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 7, 2023 15:55:42 GMT -5
Again who really cares. I hate the Yankees but it’s not 1999 Yankees are not who we are chasing. Not yet at least. The Yankees are the team that finished directly ahead of the Sox in the standings last year. The Sox are ABSOLUTELY chasing them. that was last year... so again who cares
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 7, 2023 10:43:08 GMT -5
Should we be madder about not getting Soto? No one seems to care that the Yankees paid a pittance for him. I feel like the football equivalent is Lamar Jackson was available last year to anyone and everyone was like naw and now he's great again. I also don't listen to talk radio so maybe the outrage is there. I'll be honest I don't feel that strongly either, and I can't figure out why. He was a great but not perfect fit (DEFENSE) and would have cost a gazillion dollars. But we need some thump somewhere and stop 2-WARing ourselves through another season. uh... " paid a pittance" is subjective... its what SD wanted and accepted... given their financial troubles
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 7, 2023 1:58:52 GMT -5
Well yeah, when the Padres got him they were in the thick of pennant race and he had 2.5 years left on his deal. It’s a very different situation now, and it still cleaned out the Yankees young major league pitching depth Youre being too positive. They just got a superstar gave up 1 top 100 prospect number 99. 0 All stars. They gave up ML relivers. Rafaela is ranked 72 in top 100. 73, 74, and 75 are all Yankee OFs!!!! They have that moster Dominguez and 2 guys just as good. They are STACKED. They can still sign a starter or 2. Soto Judge Dominguez Verdugo Stanton as their OFs with 2 more studs in the top 75 prospects. Im sweating thinking about this crap rn. Volpe GG SS who will just get better. Torres can mash. Yeah look at that team in depth. They are so far superior right now it makes me sick. And you are being wayyy to negative. See how that works lol. again. I don’t give a damn who wins the offseason. It means nothing. call me when its Spring training and the sox made zero moves. Freaking out now is pointless and stupid.
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 7, 2023 1:15:38 GMT -5
True, but how do the Sox even begin to counter the Soto move? Would signing a Jordan Montgomery(for example) be equally exciting? I fear that Red Sox are teetering on the verge of being completely irrelevant. There’s a few ways. They can go out there and grab the generational talent that is available. They can go out there and try to build a strong TEAM that doesn’t have much in the way of weaknesses. The Yankees have 3 good hitters (2 elite) and no pitching depth behind Cole (assuming you still think Verdugo is balsa doogs, if not then 4 good hitters). We will see at the end of the offseason what the Sox did- if it looks like last year I’ll be peeing my pants too. We’re just so early in the process and there are still so many possible targets still available that I can’t possibly do that now Also. A bit ironic, that SD gave Xander that mega contract which is going to turn into a disaster, and as a result they could not afford to extend Soto pretty much less than a year later. So they had to trade him. i bet they wish they had a do over.
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 7, 2023 0:51:45 GMT -5
The Sox finished in last place(again) this year. The team that finished in 4th ahead of them just got a truly generational talent who hasn’t been turned 26 yet. He’s going to put up absurd numbers in that ballpark, too. How can Sox fans NOT be pissing our pants at this time? Like 2 things have happened this offseason. It’s early December. Thank you. Wake me up when all the starters are signed elsewhere
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 6, 2023 23:20:47 GMT -5
glad to see we’re not pissing our pants Evergreen
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 6, 2023 23:03:22 GMT -5
Eddie to D-Backs, 4/80 Not that I was in on him, but this off-season is getting depressing tonight. Breslow's comments on not getting anything as far along as he wanted, plus Soto to the Yankees? Not great, Bob. Read the article above. Pitching is literally being helf up. Wayyy to early for getting worried
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 6, 2023 21:16:24 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 6, 2023 19:30:11 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 6, 2023 19:02:27 GMT -5
Also he is not wrong IMO Ohtani seems to be holding up the entire pitching market.... I think it’s Yamamoto holding it up because he’s everyone’s first choice and Snell/Monty is everyone’s next in line. But I agree, what can anyone do but wait for the first big domino to fall? Or both... it would be agent malpractice to not wait until the top "dogs" are signed before asking for last/final offers
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 6, 2023 18:36:38 GMT -5
Honestly I respect the candor to at least tell us we can stop refreshing. Also he is not wrong IMO Ohtani seems to be holding up the entire pitching market....
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 6, 2023 18:32:34 GMT -5
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