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Post by bigpupp on Sept 9, 2016 11:41:55 GMT -5
Dead arm (even assuming he is currently suffering from it) didn't factor into him not being called up. It was never going to happen this year.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 8, 2016 13:39:06 GMT -5
I think it's because neither had pitched in quite a while (at least Ziegler, and Kimbrel for a few days) and the Red Sox have an off-day tomorrow. I hate this line of thinking with all my being. They should be actively looking to get their best 2-3 relievers days off (when they have WE% greater than 95 pct) with the idea that they will be overworked in the postseason. If Kimbrel+Ziegler get 2-3 days off in a row that's a win. If not pitching in 2-3 days is a win, then what is not pitching in 10 days in a row? I would normally agree with you, (and I agree that Kimbrell shouldn't have sniffed the 9th) but Zeigler hadn't pitched since the 27th and he needed the work.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 6, 2016 22:51:59 GMT -5
Not sure what Moncada's game plan is at the plate right now. Seems to freeze on anything before two strikes then chase. Fastball for strike two should have been exactly what he was looking for and he couldn't pull the trigger.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 6, 2016 21:26:43 GMT -5
Girardi just let Betances throw 40 pitches on his third consecutive day to pitch. He only got 1 out and the Yanks are about to blow it against the Jays.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 5, 2016 21:06:30 GMT -5
Your original point stated that Farrell went against his "entire managerial philosophy" yet you later admitted that the philosophy you attributed him as having didnt have anything to do with the play your complaining about (catchers not being pinch hit for). Is that not changing the narrative, or are we playing with different rules?
Edit: and for the record, I was asked earlier in the thread for reasons why Wright was used as a runner and offered a few guesses over multiple posts. I even stated that I didn't know if those were the actual reasons, only that they were plausible. I'm sorry you weren't keeping track of the dialogue along the way, but that's on you.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 5, 2016 18:54:48 GMT -5
The overreactions in here are hilarious. We have a one game lead on Baltimore and the Tigers. "We have a one game lead on Boston." -Poster at Bluejaysprospects.com
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 5, 2016 18:53:09 GMT -5
Can you replace him so we don't see your posts during the GDT? There's another way you can avoid seeing his posts ... I wish. Nothing can stop other people quoting posters I've blocked.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 5, 2016 17:14:45 GMT -5
This is going to end well
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 5, 2016 16:15:53 GMT -5
Old friend Raul Alcantara making his debut today against the Angels. Not looking so hot.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 5, 2016 15:57:07 GMT -5
giggity
How was he ever a second baseman?
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 5, 2016 12:47:34 GMT -5
For all the complaining about the manager using him as a pinch runner, i am more upset about the fact that they brought him back to the majors to make 2 starts with out first proving he was healthy with a start with Pawtucket. Clay B. had been doing a decent job replacing him and easily could have made another start or two while they found out if Wright was OK in the minors. But they didn't and his starting put them in big early holes in 2 games. Why did our GM let this happen? If we were up like the Cubs are that would be one thing but we are not and could easily miss the playoffs by a game or two. If we do the decision to pitch Wright in those two games without first having him pitch in the minors to make sure he was OK is going to look even worse. Now this I can get behind. Wright was already on the DL and could have easily been sent for a rehab assignment to make sure the shoulder felt fine.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 5, 2016 12:44:11 GMT -5
Nobody is changing the narrative. Me, bigpupp and the others who are not so outraged by the move have made our points pretty clear. If you're choosing to ignore that and say we are MAKING STUFF UP, well that's on you. I'm assuming he is talking about me misremembering the details of the game and incorrectly stating that Wright was the last starting pitcher used (as opposed to the last starting pitcher used who had two working legs). I owned that mistake, but just like Farrell the only option is either termination or death. Next time I'll just incorrectly state Farrell's "entire managerial philosophy" to prove my point, so I don't get accused of being a liar.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 5, 2016 8:23:00 GMT -5
For all the talk about how Farrell "should have known" that Wright would get hurt and how "obvious" it was, and how "I'm not using hindsight when I say this"..... Steven Wright is on as a pinch runner. NL baseball is SO much more interesting. The DH needs to be abolished (exactly 38 seconds after Papi's last MLB at-bat). Reading the board today, you'd think this game was over. Lighten up, fellas. yeah, that is pretty radical of Farrell to send Wright in to pinch run. He must have been anxious about doing it, though. These were the only two posts in the entire Dodgers gamethread about Wright pinch running. And it's not as if there wasn't Farrell complaining taking place at the time. It was rampant in that game thread. So despite there being 87 more posts in the thread after Wright was used as a runner, these were the only comments that even brought it up. Yeah, it must have been really obvious that Wight was going to get hurt.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 18:03:41 GMT -5
Wouldn't mind seeing Melancon in a Red Sox uniform next year...pitching in the ninth inning...with Kimbrell on the bench. I think I know how that one ends.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 17:59:27 GMT -5
Oh look, someone's quoting Margot's line in the PCL. I didn't see that coming.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 17:48:05 GMT -5
Exhibit Z on why Farrell sticks with his starters so long.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 17:34:47 GMT -5
Good game. Now rest your pretty little arm.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 17:30:33 GMT -5
Wow. Amazing play if it stands
But it wont
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 17:29:00 GMT -5
Quick outs are certainly welcome.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 17:04:48 GMT -5
Baseball etiquette man, you don't take him out until he given up something or flat out died. The win is more important, isn't it? Not to rehash the same old argument, I'm frankly tired of making it, but the con's of bringing in a reliever vs leaving in E-Rod when he's cruising aren't really dissimilar.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 16:54:22 GMT -5
Has E-Rod always had such a short follow through? That last K was uncomfortable to watch.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 16:31:27 GMT -5
Looks like it's flip-a-coin day behind the dish.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 16:06:07 GMT -5
Dammit. Bout as far as you can hit a ball in that canyon without it crossing the fence. And as bad of a camera job as I've seen in a long time.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 15:59:45 GMT -5
So you think his managerial philosophy is to never use a backup in case that one gets hurt? You don't see the difference in not using your backup catcher for fear that if he gets hurt you have to put Pedroia or someone similar behind the plate vs not pinch running for someone that you plan on pulling the next inning anyway? There is a vast difference between the two and he, in no way whatsoever, went against his managerial philosophy with that play. As to your other point, I'll only again say that I find it interesting that you think that if a person makes a mistake one time (or is considered by many to be a bad manager) that he is incapable of ever being correct again. Yes I do see a difference. The catcher is experienced. More than likely he can finish an inning even if badly hurt but he is experienced at the position. While the pitcher pinch running, I see he has no experience. So yes I see- and I see the manger got it wrong yet again. Now we have an all-star caliber pitcher possibly done this year, maybe even next if it requires surgery, and maybe for a career. All because a manager looks at a moment rather than the big picture without talking age/experience into account.
And are you saying JF has only made one mistake? You can't be serious with that comment. You think that I believe this is only his one bad move? If you think that- no never mind. For you to even say this- we're done. I can't even believe you even could think that after all that we've posted and the threads about "fire farrell yes or no."
Then you over-exaggerate that I don't think he could make a good move. On another thread before you posted this to me, I just complimented him on saying Pomz should be a starter if we make the playoffs and don't put him in the pen. OFC you would take my argument with you to this extreme of accusing me that I am incapable of believing Farrell to ever being correct again. Your twist of my comments is pretty darn weak just as your darts on this subject. We're done. I've posted too much on this subject anyways. Time to enjoy more of the day.
If you're taking this personally then I do recommend being done. I'm not at all - just trying to understand where you're coming from. A catcher can finish an inning if he's hurt? Even if that were true, what does that have to do with JF managerial philosophy that you've been harping on in this thread? You think my comment about one mistake meant JF has only made one mistake? Even though I've explicitly said I think he should be fired? You don't see how me being sympathetic to this one decision directly conflicts that? And in all the time you don't see the problem with complaining that I'm throwing "darts," yet yourself ignored that those scenarios altogether because they don't fit the narrative you have chosen? So maybe I just need to be more clear. I don't know if the Pomeranz injury was a problem (but I know he has SOME issue that I won't pretend to know about). Nor do I know if Pomeranz was available to throw an inning on his off day (but that is something Farrell has done in the past). But I will not sit here and go with the crowd to blame Farrel for every single one of our woes just because I think he should be fired.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 4, 2016 15:15:59 GMT -5
I guess I don't see how he went against his "entire managerial philosophy." What exactly is his philosophy and how did he entirely go against it? To your broader point I will only say that just because I don't think JF should still manage this team doesn't mean I think that every move he makes - no matter what - is the wrong move. It's interesting that you think differently. But you still never really answered my earlier question. Pomeranz had an injury in San Diego that wasn't bad enough to do anything more than inform MLB. I'm saying that I don't know if it was the cause for keeping him out, and you are. What was the injury and exactly how bad was it? I would like as much detail as possible so I can be as well informed as you are. In regards to his "entire managerial philosophy" - what is his view with catchers? Haven't we had situations where we could pinch hit for our catcher very late and Farrell has said "he doesn't want to risk subbing the starting catcher with another hitter because what if his 2nd catcher gets hurt once he goes out there?" Wasn't there for example a game about 3 weeks back he could have brought in Leon late as a pinch hitter for our crummy hitting catcher?
So what was his response with Wright? Didn't he say "How was I supposed to know he'd get hurt?" So the issue is if he is going to be so cautious with the catcher's then why wouldn't be he be the same cautious with a 31 yo, not really a runner and very inexperienced runner, in which he has seen guys like Buchholz get hurt too, and the guy is a prime top-tier all-star pitcher-- why would he risk that? Yet he doesn't risk the final catcher going out for probably an inning or two who is much more experienced? he realizes the consequences of the catcher but not an older pitcher with such little experience?
As far as your question- I felt it completely an unreasonable question because that can be said for nearly every single managerial move. Whether it be personal or a guy having an injury. How do we know a player isn't suffering in some manner? For example, how do we know there isn't some personal issue with a bullpen pitcher which is why Farrell has used Taz so much? Thus I feel your question is more adversarial rather than anything else.
I'm just wondering have you ever had people that work for you? Wasn't there ever a time you lost confidence in that person and know that you were justified in that loss of confidence? And then they do other dumb/terrible things and they give you an excuse (they had a family emergency). What are you going to do? Look the other way without proof of this emergency? Farrell is a bad manager, right? I'd like proof because I no longer believe in him. But there is no proof in what you're saying. I don't see why that is so hard to grasp. Further, you gave one reason why Farrell made the decision and the way I see it- it wasn't going well so you changed tact.
Confidence has been lost with this manager for a long time. If he doesn't give a plausible reason and based on how he manages the catcher's, why should anyone that thinks he is incompetent believe that in this case "he might be right" without proof? Your dart throwing isn't proof.
So you think his managerial philosophy is to never use a backup in case that one gets hurt? You don't see the difference in not using your backup catcher for fear that if he gets hurt you have to put Pedroia or someone similar behind the plate vs not pinch running for someone that you plan on pulling the next inning anyway? There is a vast difference between the two and he, in no way whatsoever, went against his managerial philosophy with that play. As to your other point, I'll only again say that I find it interesting that you think that if a person makes a mistake one time (or is considered by many to be a bad manager) that he is incapable of ever being correct again.
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